Perhaps, exactly. We'll see.
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.

We're looking at around $249 now for the entry level model, IMO.
We're probably in agreement about the main point then - just not sure on how much margin is on their smallest iPad mini.
They could even take a loss on it if it's unappealing enough (like... 8gb!) that it gets most people buying the 16GB etc. Still you don't want to make the reports all criticisms of storage.

more laughed out of the room becuase you can only install one app, and you run out of space.
Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x2, iPod touch 16gb gen 2, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod...
Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x2, iPod touch 16gb gen 2, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod...
Maybe one textbook.
Speaking of which, they'll all need to be redone for this new size.

Actually I would have disagree with this assessment. If you have looked at your children's textbooks you might be able to understand that they would contain many gigs worth of data even in their static representation. Add the interactivity and video available through iBooks Author and you won't even fit one equivalent textbook in 8GB. One of two things need to happen in my evaluation. One: the textbooks need to be delivered via a web browser, or two the size of the onboard storage needs to increase dramatically.
Of course there is the alternative that we discontinue all public education and parents can opt to send their children to charter schools and pay for the high capacity iPad themselves.
I think the 8GB rumored iPad mini is for people who don't have a lot of media needs and also have a small budget.In addition the smaller screen is not as useful for education as the full size iPad in my opinion.
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Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
I know how many apps will fit onto the old 8gb 4/5th gen ipod touch, and it was nearly useless - assuming the larger screen, and compatability with the ipad apps, which tend to be larger than the ipod's. Its a recipie for bad press.
Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x2, iPod touch 16gb gen 2, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod...
Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x2, iPod touch 16gb gen 2, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod...
8GB model is going to be marketed heavily as a B2B device, think about it you can run a basic native application or a database through a server (e.g. Filemaker) and accomplish a lot of tasks. I know I'll be ordering a few for my business.
There are countless possibilities: waitresses taking orders (or just buy an ipad and mount it to a table and have the customer beam the order to the kitchen/bar), hotel check-in, rentals on airline flights with a select set of pre-loaded movies and tv shows to choose from, data collection in the field (my personal favorite)/surveying, etc etc etc.
No. They killed off the 4GB iPhone at the iPod touch introduction without changing the 8GB iPhone. Refresh nuttin'.
Operating under the assumption that they have no supply problems, $199 would fill 99% of the 30% of shipped (not used) tablets that Apple doesn't have right now.
But I wouldn't get my hopes up for that. I still say $399 is a safe assumption. If it's cheaper, hey, there's that.
You really want this to fail so much don't you? Even more than Android fans want it to fail. Just so you can say "See I told you it was a bad idea". Well guess what? You are going to be wrong several million times over by Christmas.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
I'd rather Apple not fail. I just think it's safe to assume the far end of things with Apple products, always have.
I still don't see how sales = good product. Yes, it can sell well. Doesn't mean it's the best thing that could be in its position.

FYI the 8GB Nexus7 is $199, The 32GB Nexus will probably be the closest in price to the 8GB iPad Mini, in the $250-$275 range.. Of course prices for either are yet to be confirmed.
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_7_8GB?id=nexus_7_8gb&hl=en
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I've populated databases with 100's and 1000's of fake records for the purpose of testing and then executed automated tests. Standard procedure.
That's not a size. 9.8" is a size. 7.85" is a size.

8GB is tight but viable for folks that don't have large apps. Of course Apple is hitting a low entry price point and expecting an upsell to the 16GB model.
If you assume US prices start at $250 and end at $650 (i.e. 1 for 1 with the Euro) then the iPad Mini (alas and not the iPad Air) comes in $50-$80 cheaper than the equivalent iPad 2.
The 16GB 3G or LTE iPad mini is a nice deal at $450 but I'll probably swing for the 32GB at $550. Movies aren't the problem...I have netflix and wi drive. It's the 1GB+ games but if you don't game it's not such a big deal.

Actually I would have disagree with this assessment. If you have looked at your children's textbooks you might be able to understand that they would contain many gigs worth of data even in their static representation. Add the interactivity and video available through iBooks Author and you won't even fit one equivalent textbook in 8GB. One of two things need to happen in my evaluation. One: the textbooks need to be delivered via a web browser, or two the size of the onboard storage needs to increase dramatically.
Of course there is the alternative that we discontinue all public education and parents can opt to send their children to charter schools and pay for the high capacity iPad themselves.
I think the 8GB rumored iPad mini is for people who don't have a lot of media needs and also have a small budget.In addition the smaller screen is not as useful for education as the full size iPad in my opinion.
I'd have to agree, but perhaps for different reasons. I see the future use of the iPad in schools to allow individualization of materials and content, and support for numerous education apps. In order to allow for individualization, online assessment and access to materials based on the assessment will be important. Apps which allow content to be pushed by the teacher, and live monitoring of student progress will also take iPad resources. For our little folk, the size and weight and cost will be very important, as will some degree of future proofing. Schools and parents will not be purchasing new iPads even every 2 years and it will be expected that the kids use their iPads over multiple years.
The least expensive iPad minis will be for seniors and as a competitor to the Kindle, Samsung, and Barnes&Noble devices. The cheapest iPad minis will allow schools to dabble in the new technology, but it would not be expected to be adequate longer term.
At this point, the iPad environment is not available to build and support what is required for a fully integrated learning environment. No LMS (Learning Management System), no assessment tools, no individualized push technologies, and no content that would cover the educational standards, and no pedagogy and training to integrate the iPad into the curriculum. The future is promising but many years into the feature.
It's a size as far as coders are concerned. The 44 point minimum interaction size is the same size on the 7.85" tablet as they are on the iPhone. Meaning if you followed the HIG for your iPad app then your UI components meets the minimum physical size that Apple has set for iOS. A 44x44 point button on the iPhone is the same physical size as a 44x44 point button on a 1024x768 7.85" iPad Mini @ 163 PPI (this is a tautology...any 44x44 pixel button is the same size for any display with the same pixel density)
Same for any books.
Unless you'd like to assert that the iPhone is unusable because the controls or fonts are too small...
That's the rub. It doesn't have the same pixel density as the iPad. Things have to be redone.
Live databases are backed up daily.You never want bogus data in your live database.
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So you think this is a screen from a test site? Why would they even mention IPAD MINI if it is just a test? Wouldn't you use FOO BAR as your test data?
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Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
Yes, I think it will be from US$249 as well. There are a couple of instances in the iPad pricing where the euro price matches the US dollar pricing (Germany), or very close to (within 10 euros, France).

At this point, the iPad environment is not available to build and support what is required for a fully integrated learning environment. No LMS (Learning Management System), no assessment tools, no individualized push technologies, and no content that would cover the educational standards, and no pedagogy and training to integrate the iPad into the curriculum. The future is promising but many years into the feature.
The thing about iBooks Author that we have come to realize is that there is no convenient way to observe what the student is doing or get any test results into a database. I would say that it is a dead end as far as education is concerned. Pretty, but not functional.
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Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
Not as urgent as some might assume. Once you are talking about high ppi the scaling effect is not that much of a problem. If the graphics are already available for a higher resolution the scaling has minimal negative consequences.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee.
Life is too short to drink bad coffee.

Actually I would have disagree with this assessment. If you have looked at your children's textbooks you might be able to understand that they would contain many gigs worth of data even in their static representation. Add the interactivity and video available through iBooks Author and you won't even fit one equivalent textbook in 8GB. One of two things need to happen in my evaluation. One: the textbooks need to be delivered via a web browser, or two the size of the onboard storage needs to increase dramatically.
Jeez people. Is it HARD to google ibooks average size?
Check out how big the first eight textbooks available through iBooks are:
E.O. Wilson’s Life On Earth – 965MB
McGraw Hill’s Algebra 1 – 1.09GB
Pearson’s Biology – 2.77GB
McGraw Hill’s Biology – 1.49GB
National’s Chemistry – 959MB
Pearson’s Environmental Science – 793MB
McGraw Hill’s Geometry – 1.22GB
McGraw Hill’s Physics – 1.25GB
So, an 8GB iPad mini can hold around 2-4 textbooks. Pearson's Biology blows past the 2GB limit that Apple has on iBooks so the McGraw Hill Biology textbook is probably more representative of the beefier textbooks.
I guessing that dynamically downloading the desired chapters from iCloud/school servers when needed will solve the issue of 3GB textbooks clogging up even 16-32GB iPads. It's recommended to keep chapter sized reasonable for performance. That works nicely with on-demand chapter downloads too.