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Apple is expected to keep its usual release schedule and put the 7.85-inch iPad into the hands of consumers less than two weeks after it is announced.

Attributing an unnamed source, TechCrunch reported on Friday that the so-called "iPad mini" will be available in stores and to early online buyers on Nov. 2. That's just over a week after the product is expected to be announced.

Apple has employed similar release schedules with other recent products, including the iPhone 5 and third-generation iPad introduced this year.

The iPad mini introduction is interesting because it is technically a new product from Apple, and the company usually gives itself a longer lead time between the announcement and eventual release of a new product. However, the iPad mini is expected to have a 1,024-by-768-pixel display that is the same resolution as the iPad 2, meaning developers would not need to rewrite their applications for them to work on the anticipated smaller tablet.

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Pushing the iPad mini into stores on Nov. 2 also gives Apple full opportunity to take advantage of the lucrative holiday shopping season. The rumored launch would give the company some time to ramp up supply ahead of "Black Friday," one of the biggest shopping days of the year.

The Nov. 2 date is already so well accepted that Wall Street analysts have been using it to calculate their sales projections since invitations for Apple's Oct. 23 event went out earlier this week.

Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray said in a note to investors on Wednesday that a presumed Nov. 2 launch of the iPad mini would set Apple up to sell at least 5 million units in the December quarter. Others, such as Rob Cihra of Evercore Partners, are more bullish, as he sees Apple selling 7 million units during the three-month frame.

Apple's own internal projected sales may be even higher. According to The Wall Street Journal, Apple placed orders for more than 10 million iPad minis to be delivered in the fourth quarter of calendar 2012.
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I figured as much. I hope it's priced well. I talked with my guys at Google and they stopped me from buying a Nexxus 7 because they have a newer tablet coming down the pipeline very soon along with their maps app.
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post
I talked with my guys at Google and they stopped me from buying a Nexxus 7 because they have a newer tablet coming down the pipeline very soon…

 

And that's the difference between Apple and Google. The former will sell you an iPad 3 during the iPad 4's keynote. The latter will tell you not to buy what they have for sale.

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Google hasn't made it widely known that they have a new Nexxus 7 coming out just six months after the last one came out. I only found out because I told my guys at Google I was planning to buy a Nexxus 7 next week...and they said you might want to wait on that.
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Personally I'm expecting these in colors similar to the Touch, Apple's most visual way of standing out from the rest of the smaller tablets. 

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Personally I'm expecting these in colors similar to the Touch, Apple's most visual way of standing out from the rest of the smaller tablets. 

Color me in for an orange one!

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What about the FCC? Wasn't half the reason why they announced the iPad three months before release because they had to get FCC approval on the device since it uses wireless tech. And that is public info so it would have leaked out. If this is a 'new product' wouldn't it have to have the same approval and thus if it is coming out in Nov we'd have seen a leak already since Apple would have filed weeks ago to have time to approve or adjust to get approval.

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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post
…if it is coming out in Nov we'd have seen a leak already since Apple would have filed weeks ago to have time to approve or adjust to get approval.

 

I imagine the FCC has sped up. iPhones are announced only weeks before release.

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What about the FCC? Wasn't half the reason why they announced the iPad three months before release because they had to get FCC approval on the device since it uses wireless tech. And that is public info so it would have leaked out. If this is a 'new product' wouldn't it have to have the same approval and thus if it is coming out in Nov we'd have seen a leak already since Apple would have filed weeks ago to have time to approve or adjust to get approval.

 

Did you see such early info from the FCC for the iPhone 5? No. You won't see it for a smaller iPad either until it's announced.

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…if it is coming out in Nov we'd have seen a leak already since Apple would have filed weeks ago to have time to approve or adjust to get approval.

 

I imagine the FCC has sped up. iPhones are announced only weeks before release.

The FCC regulations allow for sealed documents. I trust it was approved a long time ago.

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The FCC regulations allow for sealed documents. I trust it was approved a long time ago.

There's also several recent design patents granted to Apple, but under temporary seal for now at their request.

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Apple is bucking the normal industry trend of pre-announcing products 23 years in advance and claiming that said unannounced product is light years ahead of actual shipping products, as temporarily retarded that may be.
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Personally I'm expecting these in colors similar to the Touch, Apple's most visual way of standing out from the rest of the smaller tablets. 

 

I think this is really unlikely and would be somewhat unprecedented for Apple.  I only want white in any case.  

 

What worries me more is that Gruber is doubling down on 'iPad Air" as the name.   Gawd I hope not.  

 

Despite his so-called "Internet fame," his predictions are wrong about half of the time by my count so there is hope that he isn't actually better than us mere mortals, irrespective of the adulation.  

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Google hasn't made it widely known that they have a new Nexxus 7 coming out just six months after the last one came out. I only found out because I told my guys at Google I was planning to buy a Nexxus 7 next week...and they said you might want to wait on that.

 

They are just bumping up the base memory is all.  Hardly a complete redesign or anything worthy of being called a "new product."  

The bad part about the Nexus 7 anyway is the software and that isn't changing at all. 

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They are just bumping up the base memory is all.  Hardly a complete redesign or anything worthy of being called a "new product."  

The bad part about the Nexus 7 anyway is the software and that isn't changing at all. 

So basically it's a price change. 

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Here's food for thought.

 

Is it possible that some of these smaller tablets might be absolutely free to consumers within just a couple of years, underwritten by content providers? Perhaps the predictions of the Knight-Ridder tablet designers are now ready to come to fruition: Newspapers and/or publishers giving away the hardware in exchange for longer-term subscriptions to their publications.  IMHO, it's a reasonable expectation. It's not that expensive to build basic 7" touchscreen wi-fi tablets now, even with cameras. $37 builds? Believe it.

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They are just bumping up the base memory is all.  Hardly a complete redesign or anything worthy of being called a "new product."  

The bad part about the Nexus 7 anyway is the software and that isn't changing at all. 

What's bad about the software? How is it lacking in features compared to iOS for instance? I don't necessarily expect an answer and it would probably derail the thread anyway. I was just curious if you had any actual complaints about the software.

 

Here's where the unimaginative and generic "because It's Android" comes in

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I think this is really unlikely and would be somewhat unprecedented for Apple.  I only want white in any case.  

 

What worries me more is that Gruber is doubling down on 'iPad Air" as the name.   Gawd I hope not.  

 

Despite his so-called "Internet fame," his predictions are wrong about half of the time by my count so there is hope that he isn't actually better than us mere mortals, irrespective of the adulation.  

It would make sense with Apple's "more" comment and multi-hued invite. "More" colors. As far as unprecedented, Apple's advertising focus in the new Touch commercials is just that.

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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post
It would make sense with Apple's "more" comment and multi-hued invite. "More" colors.

 

 

Available in black.

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Available in black.

It's obvious to you too, isn't it TS? More colors is the thing that makes the most sense, and the easiest way for Apple's mini to stand out. I suspect there's a lot of casual buyers who might pay a $50 or more premium simply because it was "pretty" or came in their favorite color...

 

and within 6 months color options will be common for most smaller tablets.

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What's bad about the software? How is it lacking in features compared to iOS for instance? I don't necessarily expect an answer and it would probably derail the thread anyway. I was just curious if you had any actual complaints about the software.

 

Here's where the unimaginative and generic "because It's Android" comes in

 

You answered yourself with the overly clever tiny white text.  :-)

 

Seriously though, just because it's a cliche, doesn't make it untrue.  I use my iPad for a lot of things, I don't just watch movies on it on the bus, I do actual work with it.  Android running on the Nexus 7 (just for starters), lacks a decent keyboard as well as any serious productive apps like Pages, Garage Band, good drawing apps etc.

 

If you just want to check Twitter and look up crap on Google you're fine, but you need an iPad and iOS to get any real work done. 

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It's obvious to you too, isn't it TS? More colors is the thing that makes the most sense, and the easiest way for Apple's mini to stand out. I suspect there's a lot of casual buyers who might pay a $50 or more premium simply because it was "pretty" or came in their favorite color...

and within 6 months color options will be common for most smaller tablets.

That follows with what I've been saying about this rumoured device being pretty much like the iPod Touch but with a larger display. Take the iPod (Classic) and all rest of the iPod line, or the iPhone v. iPod Touch. It's black/white v. colours down the line with the cheaper device having all the colors. I don't expect a premium on the colour choices unlike the MS Surface but I think as many as the iPod Touch (or perhaps fewer if certain anodizing just don't look right with the much larger casing) will likely appear with this category.
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I'm not sure if that was sarcasm.. but TS is saying that the original iPad's invite (posted above) reflects lots of colors, and it was then available only in black. Therefore negating any relevance to color options that the invitation might have.

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It would make sense with Apple's "more" comment and multi-hued invite. "More" colors. As far as unprecedented, Apple's advertising focus in the new Touch commercials is just that.

 

By "somewhat unprecedented" I meant that Apple has never done colours in a brand new product to my knowledge.  

 

They usually do the colours thing for youth oriented products that are at the end of their design cycle when they have basically run out of other design changes. It's the same as running shoes or chrome trim and fins on cars.  When you can't actually make the design better, that's the moment when you come out with multi-coloured versions with fancy flashing and so forth.  You also start to throw in gimmicks at that point like springs in your shoes or plastic straps to hold your iPod with.  Previous to this stage, it's the design of the product itself that sells it.  

 

I could easily be wrong, but I don't think the invite predicts anything at all, (since the original iPad invite was also multi-coloured), and since the mini is an entirely new product and new design, I think it unlikely that they will need to flash it up with a bunch of colours.  

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By "somewhat unprecedented" I meant that Apple has never done colours in a brand new product to my knowledge.  

They usually do the colours thing for youth oriented products that are at the end of their design cycle when they have basically run out of other design changes. It's the same as running shoes or chrome trim and fins on cars.  When you can't actually make the design better, that's the moment when you come out with multi-coloured versions with fancy flashing and so forth.  You also start to throw in gimmicks at that point like springs in your shoes or plastic straps to hold your iPod with.  Previous to this stage, it's the design of the product itself that sells it.  

I could easily be wrong, but I don't think the invite predicts anything at all, (since the original iPad invite was also multi-coloured), and since the mini is an entirely new product and new design, I think it unlikely that they will need to flash it up with a bunch of colours.  

IMac and iPod mini come to mind.

Now, I didn't pick up on TS's original comment about the original iAd teaser but I still colors could help sell this device better than without.

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More colors is the thing that makes the most sense, and the easiest way for Apple's mini to stand out. I suspect there's a lot of casual buyers who might pay a $50 or more premium simply because it was "pretty" or came in their favorite color...

I doubt we will see anything but white or black. Don't most people put their iPad in a case anyway? 

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What's different about the design other than screen size? Color would help differentiate and would add some fun. It would be pretty boring if we lived in a world that was just black, white and silver.

I think Apple needs to do something to not make this seem like a "me-too" product. So I hope they have something to wow us with next week.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
What's different about the design other than screen size?

 

It's 4:3 instead of 16:9.


I think Apple needs to do something to not make this seem like a "me-too" product.

 

Nothing they do will change this.

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I doubt we will see anything but white or black. Most people put their iPad in a case anyway. 

Do people put their iPod Touches in cases? How about 7" tablets? I'm holding strong that colours make a significant amount of difference in sales if they can pull off the anodizing on a much larger case.

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So basically it's a price change. 

No it's not. They are dumping the 8GB and making the 32GB at the same $249 price point the 16GB currently is at. The speculation is the 16GB goes to $99. I don't think you have any 'guys at Google' if you can't even spell NEXUS correctly.

 

EDIT for my 199 typo.


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No it's not. They are dumping the 8GB and making the 32GB at the same $199 price point the 16GB currently is at. The speculation is the 16GB goes to $99. I don't think you have any 'guys at Google' if you can't even spell NEXUS correctly.

I think you meant a rumored $249 (the current 16GB price) for a 32GB Nexus7 didn't you?

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Do people put their iPod Touches in cases? 

Kids don't care about taking care of their iPods, especially if they didn't pay for it with their own money. Also iPods are pocketable so in a way the pocket is the case. iPads are being put down on various surfaces all the time. That anodizing is going to get dinged up in a hurry without a case. That is not how Apple wants to stand out. "Oh look that's an Apple iPad I can tell from all the scratches."

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Do people put their iPod Touches in cases? How about 7" tablets? I'm holding strong that colours make a significant amount of difference in sales if they can pull off the anodizing on a much larger case.


Do more people really put their ipads in cases anymore? The two I've owned I've only ever had with a smart cover


Edited by johnnyb0731 - 10/19/12 at 11:37am
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You answered yourself with the overly clever tiny white text.  :-)

 

Seriously though, just because it's a cliche, doesn't make it untrue.  I use my iPad for a lot of things, I don't just watch movies on it on the bus, I do actual work with it.  Android running on the Nexus 7 (just for starters), lacks a decent keyboard as well as any serious productive apps like Pages, Garage Band, good drawing apps etc.

 

If you just want to check Twitter and look up crap on Google you're fine, but you need an iPad and iOS to get any real work done. 

You think any 7" tablet is meant for production? As far as a relative lack of tablet specific Android apps go, that's a given. I've also no idea what's not decent about the keyboard, ignoring that's there's several non-stock options available in GooglePlay (FWIW I tend towards voice dictation rather than typing). But it's still back to the original question: How is the Nexus7 software lacking compared to iOS?


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It's 4:3 instead of 16:9.
ah, so the comparison was to othe tablets, not the larger iPad.
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Kids don't care about taking care of their iPods, especially if they didn't pay for it with their own money. Also iPods are pocketable so in a way the pocket is the case. iPads are being put down on various surfaces all the time. That anodizing is going to get dinged up in a hurry without a case. That is not how Apple wants to stand out. "Oh look that's an Apple iPad I can tell from all the scratches."

So what about cases on iPads? I had the case for the original iPad because it was also a stand. Since then I've only ever had the Smart Cover, as johnnyb0731 states.

So far Apple has shown no interest in having multiple users per device so an expensive iPad might be a way for an entire family to have its own. How do you differentiate easily? I'd say colours does that nicely.
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So they took the iPad 2 and grafted a smaller screen on it.  That is nothing impressive.  Apple already has an iPad Mini, it is called the iPod Touch.  They both do the same thing.  4:3 aspect ratio, still?...how forward thinking of them.  Another version of the iPad that will be terrible for watching video.  

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4:3 aspect ratio, still?...how forward thinking of them.  Another version of the iPad that will be terrible for watching video.  

 

But infinitely better than 16:9 at every other function it undertakes. 16:9 is not the right format for computer monitors or tablets.

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Apple already has an iPad Mini, it is called the iPod Touch.

There is nothing tabletesque about the iPod Touch. It's a PMP. It's pocketable. It's designed as such.

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So what about cases on iPads? I had the case for the original iPad because it was also a stand. Since then I've only ever had the Smart Cover, as johnnyb0731 states.
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So far Apple has shown no interest in having multiple users per device so an expensive iPad might be a way for an entire family to have its own. How do you differentiate easily? I'd say colours does that nicely.

 

The current iPad is aluminum color so the scratches don't show so much, although I've always had a front and back cover for mine. I went without a case on all my iPhones until this version. I really don't like the plastic case very much as it makes it difficult to slide the phone in and out of my pocket but I don't want it to get scratched. I like the scratch resistance of the previous model although it was a lot heavier. I'm not a big fan of the anodizing to be honest. 

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