Apple announces 4th-gen iPad with A6X CPU, FaceTime HD camera - Page 2

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Originally Posted by Easy C 

So with my extended coverage can I "break" my iPad3 and get the new 4th Gen?
If I wait a few months, 2-3, they should be out of 3rd gen stock so maybe..

no... wait a year just to be safe... (you have 2 years in the applecare+)

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Originally Posted by Evilution 

For the first time ever, I feel let down by Apple. 

I liked the fact that when you were an early adopter to an iPhone or iPad you knew you had a year+ until the next one was released.

This throws everything that I know to be true about Apple out of the window.

I'm a disappointed member of the Apple family.

Surprise! That was never a contract Apple made with you in writing. Besides, with Windows Surface about to, um, surface, Apple needs to keep the pressure on. After all, the iPhone 3GS was also a spec bump to the otherwise successful iPhone 3G, but it was needed to keep Palm Pre from gaining traction. In other words, this "fourth gen" iPad is also just enough of a refresh that it keeps iPad competitive. It's for the best.

The fact is, even without the A6X, the iPad 3 isn't suddenly obsolete, not by a long shot. You just have a case of early adopter spec envy. If that's really a problem, the cure starts at $499.

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Originally Posted by 1983 

... the global moderator...

What's in a name? It's natural for him to want to maintain sales and keep Apple's revenue high. Thanks to him and others like him, many people may have recently bought iPad 3s that will be returned. Soon we'll see them on the refurbished list for $120 less.

I've been wanting an ipad for awhile now.....but was waiting for today. Some said not to wait, that there would not be an "ipad4" yet, just an ipad3 with the new lightning plug. I'm very glad I waited. I will be ordering a new ipad4 Friday.

I assume the smart cover stays the same, although the new one for the ipad mini is a bit different. They did not say anything about a change in that.  I too wonder what happens to all of the ipad3's out there.....but for me I guess it is a moot point because I want the ipad4.  

I know many are going to like the ipad mini, but it seems to me it is too small for my taste. I also know saying that is premature because like many Apple products, the "wow" factor comes when it is in your hands. I've not yet owned an ipad, so I cannot relate to those who say "it is too big" or "it is too heavy". Hopefully I'll be happy with my purchase. If not, one is never "stuck" with an Apple product. 

I just hope the stuff you read about it getting too hot, etc will not occur with the new one.

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Originally Posted by Evilution 

For the first time ever, I feel let down by Apple. 

I liked the fact that when you were an early adopter to an iPhone or iPad you knew you had a year+ until the next one was released.

This throws everything that I know to be true about Apple out of the window.

I'm a disappointed member of the Apple family.

Go and find satisfaction elsewhere then!

STUNNING!

APPLE JUST KICKED THE DOORS DOWN ON THE REST OF THE MOBILE INDUSTRY!

Lemon Bon Bon.

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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum 

Didn't I read somewhere that Microsoft and Google/Sammy have some tablet related announcements in the next few days?

Allegedly. http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/21/3533548/google-samsung-nexus-10-android-4-2-rumor

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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s 

So what's the pricing on the now discontinued iPad 3s still in the channel?

I would guess that they'll be sold as 'refurbished' but they'll be new.

They are changing the upgrade cycle to 6 months now. The iPad mini may be upgraded in 6 months with retina display. The iPhone 5 may be upgraded soon as well.

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Originally Posted by peter236 

They are changing the upgrade cycle to 6 months now. The iPad mini may be upgraded in 6 months with retina display. The iPhone 5 may be upgraded soon as well.

Highly unlikely.  More likely the decided their iOS devices are the biggest sellers, they want them available in brand spanking new versions before the holidays.  Move teh iPads to the fal land now all iOS devices have a fall release.  Let spring and summer be upgrades on the OS X machines and other assorted Apple goodies.  Spring and Summer is when a lot of the Intel releases happen anyway.  If they update the desktop and laptop lines in the quarter before new iOS devices come out, it helps pick up the slack of people slowing purchases so they get the newst iOS device.

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Originally Posted by peter236 

They are changing the upgrade cycle to 6 months now. The iPad mini may be upgraded in 6 months with retina display. The iPhone 5 may be upgraded soon as well.

One year cycle is just too long when the new latest Android stuff come out every few months that leapfrog each other. There is simply no way that Apple can claim to have the technological "lead" when they have to wait a year to release new products - especially with mobile devices, not so much with PC's. Apple can go for significant new launches once per year and spec upgrades in between. This could also smoothen out the seasonality peaks and valleys somewhat and not have people just wait out 3 months for the next big launch of the iPhone and iPad.

Good point!

Their next event could be in the spring to announce a new Mac Pro (Ha!) or a TV Set (Ugh). I hope its the former.

Competition is getting fiercer. So I don't mind this faster upgrade cycle. It is normal in the PC industry -- only not normal for Apple. But Apple has to stay at competitive edge. I don't buy people moaning about the iPad 3 being obsolete. It still works fine. Yes, people buying now get faster. But as Steve Jobs said, there's always something faster around the corner. That's technology.

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Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. 

STUNNING!

 

APPLE JUST KICKED THE DOORS DOWN ON THE REST OF THE MOBILE INDUSTRY!

 

Lemon Bon Bon.

Agreed.

Now if they could only do the same for the Desktop/Workstation world I'd be one satisfied alumnus.

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Originally Posted by HKLofu 

I still have an iPad 1 - it's fine. Still does exactly what it said it would, still love it.

Got mine as well. Though, I will be getting the iPad 4. Gives me both ends to target development options.

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Originally Posted by mesomorphicman 

Interesting they updated the regular iPad now... two questions I wonder about:

1) Does this mean going forward all iPad announcements will be October/November? (As the iPhone announcement has changed recently)

 

2) Is there no iPad "5" launch in April as most expected or will there be updates every six months?

 

Will have to wait to see. The mini is very good for people like me who didn't want to pay $500+ for an iPad but $330 is a lot easier to swallow and get the same device (just smaller).

 

That new iMac is extremely nice, amazing how they can make a desktop that thin. You know HP, Dell (etc) are all scratching their heads now and racing around like chickens throwing away all their plans and designs.

 

Thank you, Steve Jobs and team.

1 - No

2 - Unless someone has a crystal ball, no one knows.

3 - Steve Jobs is dead.  This was a product of the company called Apple Inc.  You should thank them. 

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Originally Posted by Easy C 

So with my extended coverage can I "break" my iPad3 and get the new 4th Gen?
If I wait a few months, 2-3, they should be out of 3rd gen stock so maybe..

It's amazing how willing some people are to commit fraud.

Originally Posted by Sinthor 
…if they had this, why release the iPad 3 without the A6 only a few months ago?

… Probably because they didn't have this.

Originally Posted by Easy C 
So with my extended coverage can I "break" my iPad3 and get the new 4th Gen?
If I wait a few months, 2-3, they should be out of 3rd gen stock so maybe..

That's called insurance fraud, and if you had any sense or intelligence whatsoever you wouldn't do this. And no, you'll have to wait multiple years for them to be "out of 3rd gen stock".

Originally Posted by PhilBoogie 
What spring launch would that be?

Bingo. 

Originally Posted by nagromme 
I detect another reason they did not call it the iPad 3!

What's that? Actually, what's ANY reason?

Originally Posted by peter236 
They are changing the upgrade cycle to 6 months now.

No, that's not something that anyone can say at all.

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Originally Posted by dasanman69 


If they stop making them then it is technically obsolete.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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Originally Posted by dasanman69 


We had a president commit fraud why are you surprised if anyone else does?

I happen to be surprised when ANYONE is willing to commit fraud.  I'm kinda an absolutist in that way, not a relativist.  Stop trying to turn an unrelated discussion into politics.

I'm just wondering if Apple just cancelled future spring releases of the iPad and moved it to the fall for Christmas sales.

Maybe this is just a fluke, but I can't imagine that Apple would ever increase the number of individual product releases each year.  There wouldn't be as much of a product frenzy.

Though, if Apple comes out with an A7 with a quad-core Swift with PowerVR G6400 next spring for a new iPad I wouldn't complain.

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Originally Posted by AnalogJack 

I would guess that they'll be sold as 'refurbished' but they'll be new.

I don't think so. I guess they can sell the still-in-the-channel iPad3 for enterprise customers with special deal as they may always do that anyways, in high volume orders.

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Originally Posted by Creep 

Your assertion that the 3 didn't offer any compelling reasons to upgrade over the ipad2 was stated by just about every major review, and is supported by performance metrics.

And reality showed they were all stupids!

Ask any iPad 3 owner if they are willing to go back to the iPad 2. They will simply laugh at you.

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Originally Posted by nagromme 

I detect another reason they did not call it the iPad 3!

I was just thinking the same thing - even more logic to why numbering was dropped (this release was obviously on the cards before the 3rd gen was announced)

Originally Posted by dasanman69 
Ummm they just did it, so how can it not be said?

Apologies, it's not something that anyone who expects to be taken seriously for any reason would say. 

Originally Posted by dasanman69 
People cheat all the time regardless of race, religion, creed, and class.

And in the same vein, are you honestly claiming that that has any sort of comparison with someone consciously, and possibly orally, stating outright that he plans to commit fraud for the purpose of stealing something? 

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Originally Posted by Andysol 

They obviously didn't move the iPad 3 down to $399 because that wouldve consumed a lot of iPad 4 sales.  Who in their right mind will buy an iPad 2 now?  lol

the new product line looks to be in 12(6?) months:

Entry: $199/229/249: 'original' iPad Mini (A5X)

Mini: $299/329: iPad Mini  RD (and aligned with iPad4 performance) (A6X)

'Econ' Level:  $399: iPad 4 (A6X)

Flagship: $499  New Improved (A7) iPad.

This will make sense as a migration strategy

Last year's iPad will be have it's innards be ported down to the 'new' Mini, for a slightly lower price

Last year's Mini will become the the 4 price as the 'econ' level.  a 2 year old chipset.

Finally, it lets Apple decide 'how low is low' on the Mini this year.  If they need to drop it 10% ($299), they can, and still have the room to drop the pricing umbrella even lower as they evolve to a 4 tier product line.  

Originally Posted by dasanman69 
That would've been true yesterday if someone had claimed Apple was coming out with a 4th gen iPad today, but surprise surprise they did just that, so now history shows that Apple has refreshed a device in less than a years time so why would saying they'd do again not be taken seriously?

We have ONE data point. You CANNOT say anything about ONE data point. Doesn't matter how it looks.

Uh, no. Apathy caused this problem. Telling people they're idiots and ridiculing them for perpetuating it is one of the easiest ways to fix it.