Originally Posted by Relic
Yes but those APU's are only found in laptops and low end machines with AMD CPU's, I haven't looked recently but how well are those selling?
Well before Haswell they where selling rather well into the laptop market, especially to people interested in good GPU performance at low cost. Honestly I haven't check lately, but I think you miss the point, every AMD or Intel APU that gets sold is a potential loss of sales for NVidia. It started to impact NVidia a year or so ago, it just see it getting much worst with this new generation of APUs.
Let's face it there was good reason in the past for even a modest computer user to need something better than integrated Intel GPUs. Those days are effectively gone. The remaining discrete GPU market will rapidly shift to the high end.
Apple has a very small portion of the high end workstation market HP is the leader for that market, especially 3D and HP uses Nvidia. We are assuming the Mac Pro will be successful, you yourself have doubts on the entry price as do I and let's face it Apple has let their Pro market lax over the last two years.
For the life of me I can't understand why Apple can't break out of this marketing nightmare that is their desktop line up. It isn't that the price on the "entry level" Mac Pro is that bad, it is the fact that they don't fill in the line up with a true desktop machine. Not a workstation with XEON and dual GPUs, but rather a machine with a top end desktop chip. If built on a Mac Pro chassis the potential is to drive volume that would assure the Mac Pros survival.
I hate to say it but I believe this is Apples last throws in that market. In two to three years time the Mac Pro might be a thing of the past, I wouldn't be surprised if sooner.
I'm not too sure about that. In many ways I'm impressed with the machine. The problem is Apple has this extremely wide gap in performance between the Mini and Mac Pro that isn't filled with a proper desktop machine. Maybe the mini can morph into something better! I'm actually hoping that is the case! but Apples history here has been pathetic to say the least.
In many ways Apple reminds me of some of the drivers around here that get stuck in the snow and spin their wheels madly trying to get out of the snow bank. It is extremely sad that the company that once advertised "Think Different" can't seem to change its direction with the desktop hardware. Instead the have the lead foot all the way down on the accelerator going nowhere. Let's face it, we have seen over a decade of this desktop line up, they need to make changes.