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Apple obtains Beatles' Granny Smith trademark for Apple Corps

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Apple is now the owner of the logo for Apple Corps, the holding company and owner of the record company for legendary band The Beatles.

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Apple obtained the trademark after winning an attempt to block the transfer by a company named Apple Box Productions Sub Inc. The registered trademark was transferred to the iPhone maker this week.

The logo for Apple Corps Ltd. is a Granny Smith green apple that, unlike Apple's silhouette logo, does not have a bite taken out of the fruit. Transfer of the trademark was first discovered on Thursday by Patently Apple.

Apple Corps was founded in 1968 by the members of the Beatles. Its chief division is Apple Records.

Apple first applied for ownership of the Granny Smith logo in March of 2011. The transfer was part of a 2007 legal settlement between Apple and Apple Corps, which resolved a long-standing dispute over ownership of the "Apple" trademark.

In the settlement, Apple was granted all related trademarks, but it is required to license certain trademarks back to Apple Corps. Apple's ownership of the Granny Smith trademark is simply a tying up of loose ends, and the logo now extends to "computer hardware, online social networking services, mobile phones," and other categories.

The resolution of the legal dispute between Apple and Apple Corps paved the way for the arrival of The Beatles' catalog on Apple's iTunes Music Store, though it took more than three years to happen. iTunes began carrying the band's music in November of 2010, with first week sales reaching 450,000 albums and 2 million songs.
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There are so many other varieties of apples to choose. I don't want the multitouch successor to the Macintosh line called "Granny Smith". lol.gif

 

"Yeah, I just got the new iGran."
"That's tart, bro. Real tart."

 

Let's see here, Rambo, that's taken, Empire, bad connotation, Gravestein, sounds like the lineup is dead, Discovery, they'll be sued by a TV channel, Jonathan, it'll go to someone's head… 

 

I have it, the Pippin!

 

Wait… 

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This is far too late. The only one that cared about this was Steve Jobs anyway. No way Apple will be replacing their logo with the old Apple corps logo.

How many folks are even alive that remember buying the records or know what the label was? It would have been cool if they could have settled it in the 90's or early 2,000's to use this for some of the music related things but it's too late now.
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Honeycrisp might work, if they go back to PowerPc chips and do a combination Macpro/easy bake oven.

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The dispute was idiotic from the beginning - glad we can scratch that off from any future non-sense.
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post
Honeycrisp might work, if they go back to PowerPc chips and do a combination Macpro/easy bake oven.

 

I was thinking the same thing. And Honeycrisp are really good; I've a bowl of them here right now.

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Now that's sorted Apple can go after the bible apple references.

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I used to eat Granny Smith apples when I was a kid. Quite a sharp bite. The rest of my family didn't like them.

 

Here is the old lady herself

http://www.ryde.nsw.gov.au/About+Ryde/Historic+Ryde/Historic+Figures/Granny+Smith

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Honeycrisp might work, if they go back to PowerPc chips and do a combination Macpro/easy bake oven.

 

I was thinking more like a special edition computer, designed by Ive, covered in gold leaf and called "Jon O'Gold."  

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Yes, the Adam and Eve story is a blatant Apple rip off.
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Speaking of music, where's that promised iTunes update that was promised at the end of October. /stopslookingatcalendar 

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Originally Posted by eightzero View Post
Speaking of music, where's that promised iTunes update that was promised at the end of October.

 

Well, it's not yet the end of October.


Unless 00:00:01, November 1, 2012 hits and we don't see iTunes for download, they're keeping to their schedule.

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Yes, the Adam and Eve story is a blatant Apple rip off.

certainly a blatant rip off - but not so much from Apple Inc.

iCrab Apple anyone?

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Would be hilarious if changed the logo on all their products, marketing and stores to this.
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This is far too late. The only one that cared about this was Steve Jobs anyway. No way Apple will be replacing their logo with the old Apple corps logo.

You don't get it.
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There was a long ago conflict between the Apple record label and Apple Computer over the "similar" apple logos.

Apple Computer agreed never to sell music!
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Now that's sorted Apple can go after the bible apple references.

 

There are no references to apples in the Bible. Apples were unknown in the Levant during the time in which most of it was written.

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I hear they're remaking "I want to hold your hand" to a more current "I want to hold my iPad."  This is just rumor, of course.

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certainly a blatant rip off - but not so much from Apple Inc.

 

You beat me to that one.

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Well, it's not yet the end of October.


Unless 00:00:01, November 1, 2012 hits and we don't see iTunes for download, they're keeping to their schedule.

Dammit, these people are really pissing me off. How DARE they delay taking my money. First I gotta wait to Friday to order a iPad mini (what, you couldn't just take my money right away Tim? Really?) And now, I gotta wait MORE for a new iTunes that surely will have nots of stuff I didn't know existed, and now I can't live without? Oh, how the mighty apple has fallen! Apple - you *suck*.

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Can anyone say what this would be worth long term???

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And Honeycrisp are really good.

Uh uh..... 1oyvey.gif nothing beats Pink Lady.

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The next generation Apple product will be based on another Scottished named apple (Braeburn) the iBrae. Then maybe later they'll come out with that small, always on, always worn, ultimate mobile device -your constant companion - the iBro.

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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
Uh uh..... 1oyvey.gif nothing beats Pink Lady.

 

Hmm. Haven't had one of those in a while. Maybe in a non-drought year when apples aren't over SIX BUCKS A BAG.

 

I subconsciously typed "Apple's" up there. This company, I tell you… 😅

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Weren't there two similar logos related to Apple Corps?  I remember on vinyl that one side had the granny smith apple and the other side had a cross section of the same apple.

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The next generation Apple product will be based on another Scottished named apple (Braeburn) the iBrae. Then maybe later they'll come out with that small, always on, always worn, ultimate mobile device -your constant companion - the iBro.

 

Was wondering when someone would comment on the next iPad being a tad bigger than the original. This is obviously the Maxi iPad. Comes in white only, wings optional.

 

Ok, that was cheap. Sorry. 

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Dude, you are so wrong. Honeycrisp. Period.
 

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All this Apple lore and not one mention of sosume...

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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post
All this Apple lore and not one mention of sosume...

 

EEP! WACK! MOOF!

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Originally Posted by lalaruza View Post

Can anyone say what this would be worth long term???

The dispute over the Name and Logo was about trade confusion. Apple Successfully argue way back their would be no confusion between Music and computer so they won the right to use the name and logo of the Apple in the computer and electronic industry. However, Apple Corp lawyers were smart enough not to allow Apple computer to use the name and Logo as it related to anything other than computers and electronics. They limited Apple computers scope of use. Yeah Job knew in his mind that music would come to computer, the question is did the beatles know that as well.

 

Now that Apple owns everything, they can market and use the Logo in any way they like in any industry they like, expect maybe travel since Apple Travel is well know too and was around for a long time. I wonder if Apple Corp and Apple Computer have gone around with Apple Travel.

 

This is important since it the same as Coke or Pepsi. When you think of those names you know exactly what it means to you. With Apple everyone will relate all thing back Apple Computer (less the computer name). This all come to a head when Apple in fact dropped computer from the name, 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

How many folks are even alive that remember buying the records or know what the label was?

 

More than you think. And the Apple Corps logo is all over iTunes. Seen and bought by millions.
 
Bravo Steve, for getting The Beatles in house, before you passed. Bravo.
 
 
 
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The Apple Inc. logo is actually an apple with a dent in it. This is where the apple hit Newton in the head. It's not a bite. It looks like a bite, but it's a dent. The Apple with a dent signifies when Newton was "struck" with inspiration.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

This is far too late. The only one that cared about this was Steve Jobs anyway. No way Apple will be replacing their logo with the old Apple corps logo.
How many folks are even alive that remember buying the records or know what the label was? It would have been cool if they could have settled it in the 90's or early 2,000's to use this for some of the music related things but it's too late now.

 

Actually, the only one who cared about this was Apple Corps Ltd. (corporate owner of the Beatles' "Apple Records" record label) and, specifically, the late Mr. Neil Aspinall.  I've read that he took the Apple Corp lawsuits with (the then) Apple Computer personally.  The Beatles only appeared on iTunes after Aspinall turned over the reins of Apple Corps to former Sony VP Jeff Jones in 2007.

 

This Granny Smith logo transition is just a housekeeping measure, cleaning up a legal loose-end from the last lawsuit.  Apple Inc now officially owns it, but exclusively licenses it back to Apple Corps Ltd.

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The Apple Inc. logo is actually an apple with a dent in it. This is where the apple hit Newton in the head. It's not a bite. It looks like a bite, but it's a dent. The Apple with a dent signifies when Newton was "struck" with inspiration.
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Not that his is important in any way, but what I'd heard back in 85 was that it was a bite, and that it implied taking a bite of fruit from the tree of knowledge. It also suggests byte. 

I'm curious, what do you think Tom or Richard will say?

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Let's see here, Rambo, that's taken, Empire, bad connotation, Gravestein, sounds like the lineup is dead, Discovery, they'll be sued by a TV channel, Jonathan, it'll go to someone's head… 

 

Fuji.  Apple could buy Fuji Television (Japan) so they could cover the Fuji apple trademark space.

 

Or not.

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I was thinking the same thing. And Honeycrisp are really good; I've a bowl of them here right now.
I'm very jealous, the local megamart was out of them today.
I'm sure nearly every one on this board can understand feeling Jazzed over an apple.
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Uh uh..... 1oyvey.gif nothing beats Pink Lady.


Galas are my favorite

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Galas are my favorite

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Originally Posted by Enigmamatic View Post
The Apple Inc. logo is actually an apple with a dent in it. This is where the apple hit Newton in the head. It's not a bite. It looks like a bite, but it's a dent. The Apple with a dent signifies when Newton was "struck" with inspiration.
Let the petty relies to this post begin!

 

Therefore what's the purpose of any of the words in your post?

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Weren't there two similar logos related to Apple Corps?  I remember on vinyl that one side had the granny smith apple and the other side had a cross section of the same apple.

Well, my original vinyl of the White Album and Yellow Submarine, for instance, are that way...Let It Be sort f is except the apple peel side is a red skin...didn't bother to pull out any others.

 

If we are still looking for varieties, I would suggest "russet'...but 'someone' would probably try to rustle it...

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