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Since desktops account for less than 20% of mac sales and laptops momentum is only growing, it's really easy. especially if you consider the 13r and the new mini.
B and H Photo still has the base model 21.5" model in stock, for a savings of $200. They are clearing them out for $1,099, with a discount on AppleCare too.
My local Apple Store has plenty of 2011 iMacs in stock and on display.
Doubtful that the 21.5 inch model will be popular, considering the memory is not upgradable and the hard drive is crippled at 5,400 RPM.
It will be interesting to hear about the new ones. I'm not sure on the mini. It's not as possible to order everything you need from the Apple Store with the mini given that the thunderbolt display is somewhat at odds with a budget machine. I'm not surprised they pulled the discrete gpu. It wasn't that great an effort as far as gpus were concerned. If intel's improvements outpace the low to mid notebook grade gpus again next year, it should be comfortable. The haswell one would also support OpenCL 1.1. The current one is not capable of supporting this. The biggest thing that I find weird about the 21.5" is that they've migrated to a slower HDD format. 5400 RPM drives in a desktop just seems weird to me. It's odd prioritizing depth that has no real impact on use over performance.
OF COURSE laptops were 80% of sales. The desktop offerings were antiquated! Who would buy them? Of course instead of being antiquated they're now just lame, so who knows if there will be any improvement?
It's just embarrassing that a company of the caliber of Apple cannot launch a product without shortages. And no, this is not a sign of overwhelming demand for magically awesome products. It's either a sign of poor planning or arrogant scarcity marketing, neither of which is flattering. They don't even have their own factories, so if it's really about production limitations, then they are just too cheap to pay Foxconn etc. to assemble more.
Some people are just going to have to wait it out. That's how it goes when the demand is much higher than what can be supplied. Apple stuff is simply too popular. Apple has always had a core group of faithful users who knew how great Apple's products were, but the word has gotten out now, and when you make quality products like Apple does, that has the highest customer satisfaction ratings in the entire business, you're only going to get more people wanting to get their hands on those products.
The new iMacs are crazy sexy, and people are going to wait to get theirs. Virtually nobody is going to opt for some other junk, because they have to wait for a little bit.
In fact I don't remember anything similar before. When the aluminum Powerbooks were introduced back in the beginning of 2003, you could place your order through the Apple Store even though the waiting time was very long, weeks to start with and then more than one month for the 17" model, probably even two months, I don't remember. But you could place your order. "Store" means that you can order, no matter how long it takes to deliver. Now, what's up with this?
Oh yes, if you're an existing Mac Pro owner who bought their computer back in 2010 then it's excellent value. But if you're a business that needs to buy a Mac Pro you are screwed. Either buy a machine with Shite specs for an exorbitant price or hang on......
It's embarrassing that you believe this expected shortage story. This is banded around with every Apple release and over everything that Apple sell, this is the one least likely to have issues.
Apple know that if they spread the rumour that there'll be shortages, people won't "leave a purchase until tomorrow" in case they don't get their one before Christmas.
I've never had any issues getting the new Apple products from my Apple store the week after they are released, Apple just like to add a bit of panic, it pleases the shareholders.
Unless the memory is soldered on I'll reserve judgement until I see how easy or hard it is to get into. If it's not upgradable then I'll either find a 2011 iMac and live without USB3 or pony up for the low end 27".
That's possible. It's just that fast drives are one of the more popular upgrades in that market segment, as in those that aren't chasing the absolute fastest cpus on the market at any given time. If they were, they wouldn't be looking at the 21.5". Given the size of that enclosure, I'm not surprised, but it strikes me as one of those things where it was really designed for an ssd. They just may not have the appropriate capacities available within the margins they want to make.
I'd expect the numbers to look a lot different in areas where gaming performance is a non issue. While the gpu is used for other things as well, the Air and imac wouldn't be that great for games. All it shows here is that people gaming on them typically went for discrete graphics options, although the 13" mbp may also be represented somewhat. The mac pro was never a good option there unless you already owned one for other purposes.