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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

Actually I think Amazon made a mistake putting the two side by side. First thing you notice is how huge the black bezel is on the Fire compared to the smaller bezel on the mini. Looking at the two side by side does not make me want a Fire.

 

Yep, they are practically the same size, but the Bezel on the Fire is Huge, it looks plain silly when both are to scale and side/side. It is like you get as much Bezel as you do screen:

 

 

The Fire HD is still sluggish to use and it is Advertising Infested. You need to be a Amazon fan to want one of their Advertising/Sales Kiosks in your home. It isn't good for much else.

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The Kindle Fire is pathetic! Even if I was on welfare, I wouldn't want one. I don't give a crap about how cheap it is. They can keep that ad infested, Android abomination for themselves. lol.gif

 

The competition is scared shitless! How many Kindle Fires has Amazon sold again? Oh, that's right, virtually nobody besides Apple has the balls to actually release any sales figures.

 

The competition is cheap crap, and they also have no balls. I also believe that they are being misleading and targeting their propaganda towards ignorant individuals when they're trying to hype that their display has a few more pixels. What would you rather have, 200 ounces of silver, or 100 ounces of gold? A dummy would of course choose 200 ounces of silver. A greater number doesn't always mean that something is better, and it's certainly not indicative of quality.

 

I'm about to get hit by that freaking frankenstorm, and thank goodness for my iPad! If the power goes out, which is not unlikely, then the iPad is actually the device that I have in my house that will last the longest without electricity. If the power does goes out, you might not be seeing me online here for a while. I guess that I'll put it in airplane mode, lower the screen brightness slightly and play some of the hundreds of games that I have to kill the time, if I'm stuck here with no electricity. I couldn't even buy any flashlights, everywhere is sold out! All of my iOS devices are currently charged to the max, in preparation for that killer hurricane.

 

In conclusion, screw the Kindle Fire! 1smoking.gif

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Originally Posted by logandigges View Post

Yeah...

Sorry about that. I think....I'm going to take that out...

 

I'm glad you expressed distaste for the Amazon. It's just an opinion. Besides, the F-word is the most magical word ever. The Norwegians even imported it into their language (no joke).

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post #84 of 99
Apple should have put a higher res display at the same aspect ratio and just had the slightly stretched. All the controls will be rendered natively anyway and only the artwork/graphics would need to be upgraded. If Apple just went for 1280x960, same exact aspect ratio, plays 720p natively.

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post #85 of 99
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Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post

Don't think Amazon is doing this because they are scared. They are marketing to the non-Apple crowd - those who are predisposed to consider non-Apple options (e.g. Android) first and some of those on the fence.

 

We need to be fair here - there are features on Kindle that are superior to iPad Mini (screen resolution) and Amazon is smart to point them out. There are also features on iPad Mini that are superior. Amazon would be dumb to point them out.

 

This marketing strategy is designed to redirect attention away from Nook and Nexus 7.

Good point.  Amazon might as well mention the elephant in the room.  It at least goes to portray the smaller-tablet market as a two-horse race.  Sometimes its good to be Pepsi!


Edited by diplication - 10/29/12 at 9:55am

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post #86 of 99
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Originally Posted by jkichline View Post

These other tablets ads are so misleading it's sickening. Are they saying that supporting the fastest 4G LTE and latest WiFi protocols somehow makes the iPad mini a poor choice? It doesn't matter how many pixels you have to a point, the screen is 30-60% smaller and that makes a big difference, especially in landscape. The iPad's 4:3 aspect ratio wins on that account. Also, I don't think it much matters if you have stereo, mono or 5-point surround sound on your 7" tablet... it's not going to make a freaking difference. The sound is still going to suck. The iPad speaker sounds awesome for it's size and it's loud. Most other devices can't match that.
Speed of processor is probably better than the Amazon offering and the app choice is enormous in comparison, especially since there are still very few tablet specific apps for the Kindle which is really just a phone with decent media apps. Oh and did we mention that you need to pay to remove the ads? Yeah...
iPad mini: lighter, larger, faster, better selection. Everything you can do with an iPad 2 plus much more with improved cameras, networking, power management... Sorry Amazon.

 

"Sickening"? Going a bit far. Every company highlights their best features and specs, and tries to make them sound superior. Apple is no different. They highlight size of their screen and quality of the device, Amazon highlights their lower price and higher screen resolution. Sickening? Really? Chill out. Marketing is not about being 100% open and honest. Everybody plays the game, and I do mean everyone.

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Originally Posted by dubston View Post

You can have stereo speakers or dual speakers, but what are dual stereo speakers? 1oyvey.gif

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Originally Posted by Drac View Post

"you would have to have the IQ of an ant to buy a Kindle Fire HD over an iPad." ... "Haha, Amazon's scared. How amusing" ... "Such a waste of space on the Fire there."
And people wonder why Apple fans have a reputation of being snotty, condescending and arrogant ...

 

The first is condescending.  The second is attempted analysis at marketing tactics (and possibly correct).  The 3rd is a critique of the bezel design, and seemingly a rather fair one.  So yeah, only 1 of those comments really fits your statement. 

 

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To be honest, I don't think that's fair. Gizmodo, regardless of the past would publish this anyway.

 

Of course, they do have this past, so it now colors every comment they make in the future.  Like someone who did time for murder, people will always be looking out the corner of their eye at them and second guessing them.  No, buying a pre-production prototype isn't anywhere close to equivalent to murder (and I'm not honestly equating them, only the social aspects of a record like that), but look at what it has done to any reputation Gizmodo had before that incident?  Completely blown.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

 

If you Google the term you will find that it's (sadly) used fairly regularly by gadget sellers so I think it unlikely that Amazon actually has four speakers in there.  I think it's just the (stupid, illegible, illiterate, ignorant) way people speak nowadays.  

 

Like how someone pacifically* told you it was a mute** point?  :)  Those are a couple pretty common screwups.

 

 

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post #88 of 99
Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
Apple should have put a higher res display at the same aspect ratio and just had the slightly stretched. All the controls will be rendered natively anyway and only the artwork/graphics would need to be upgraded. If Apple just went for 1280x960, same exact aspect ratio, plays 720p natively.

 

No.

Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post
The Who beat them to it.  Quadrophenia :)

 

May as well get ahead of the curve and support the full Super Hi-Vision standard. 22 speakers.

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post #89 of 99
I have to laugh at Amazon going after Apple when their biggest competition is Google. Unless you're totally invested in Amazon Prime what would be the reason to get a Fire over a Nexus?
post #90 of 99
What are you really going to do with a Mac Mini? Chances are that you will simply read a book, or maybe watch a movie on the car/bus/plane. At this size, the odds of authoring email or doing a substancial amount of web surfing is probably not going to happen. This sort of activity would happen far more on a larger size screen - such as the full sized iPad.

Thus, for the market segment that the Mac Mini is offered at, I believe it is over-priced - and that the bang for the buck is truly in Amazon's court. It's simply a matter of chosing the right tool for the right job. For movies - it's passable, for books - more so. But, for anything productive - it's simply too small.
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May as well get ahead of the curve and support the full Super Hi-Vision standard. 22 speakers.

 

icosikaidigophenia doesn't have the same ring to it tho :)


Edited by SSquirrel - 10/29/12 at 11:27am
post #92 of 99
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Originally Posted by Hodar View Post

What are you really going to do with a Mac Mini? Chances are that you will simply read a book, or maybe watch a movie on the car/bus/plane. At this size, the odds of authoring email or doing a substancial amount of web surfing is probably not going to happen. This sort of activity would happen far more on a larger size screen - such as the full sized iPad.
Thus, for the market segment that the Mac Mini is offered at, I believe it is over-priced - and that the bang for the buck is truly in Amazon's court. It's simply a matter of chosing the right tool for the right job. For movies - it's passable, for books - more so. But, for anything productive - it's simply too small.

 

The Mac Mini I would wonder how I'm seeing to type b/c it is a silver square on my desktop, not a tablet.  The iPad Mini, I would probably type email and surf better than I do on my iPhone 4S, which I do a decent amount of both on it already.

 

Also your measure of productivity doesn't jibe with mine.  I can plug my guitar in and using an app like Ampkit, I have amplifiers and effects pedals.  Run that into an app like Garageband or Music Studio, I can record music.  Fire up Korg iMS 20 or Sunrizer and lay down a synth part.  Open up DM-1 or Korg iElectribe and program a drumbeat.  All recorded into the DAW that is functional and running in the background on my iPad Mini.  Sounds pretty productive to me and oh yeah, none of those apps are available on Android b/c Android is completely awful for music production.

post #93 of 99
"Amazon also dismissed the fact that the iPad mini has one mono speaker, while the Kindle Fire HD has dual stereo speakers."

... because stereo built-in speakers on a tablet is so significant. LOL!!
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Originally Posted by Hodar View Post

What are you really going to do with a Mac Mini? Chances are that you will simply read a book, or maybe watch a movie on the car/bus/plane. At this size, the odds of authoring email or doing a substancial amount of web surfing is probably not going to happen. This sort of activity would happen far more on a larger size screen - such as the full sized iPad.
Thus, for the market segment that the Mac Mini is offered at, I believe it is over-priced - and that the bang for the buck is truly in Amazon's court. It's simply a matter of chosing the right tool for the right job. For movies - it's passable, for books - more so. But, for anything productive - it's simply too small.

 

The correct spelling is "iPad mini" not "Mac Mini".

And a difference of 1.8 inches makes it "simply too small"?

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post #95 of 99
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Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post

Don't think Amazon is doing this because they are scared. They are marketing to the non-Apple crowd - those who are predisposed to consider non-Apple options (e.g. Android) first and some of those on the fence.

 

We need to be fair here - there are features on Kindle that are superior to iPad Mini (screen resolution) and Amazon is smart to point them out. There are also features on iPad Mini that are superior. Amazon would be dumb to point them out.

 

This marketing strategy is designed to redirect attention away from Nook and Nexus 7.

Smart post and great point.  Choose us or the iPad mini- and they still come out ahead better than they wouldve if they didn't make the comparison.  Why compare themselves with a product like the Nexus that is pretty close and has it beat on a lot of fronts.  Ignore them like they don't exist, and put your product out there with what will be the frontrunner (the iPad mini).


Would everyone rather they say "Ya- the mini is better- ours sucks in comparison".  Or- how about- "We are comparable with the Nexus 7- please buy ours"

 

btw- you know what this advertising costs them?  Nothing.


I like their approach.  Props to Amazon.  Now please- for the love of God- let Apple TV have Amazon Instant video (looking at you too HBO!)

 


Originally Posted by diplication View Post

Good point.  Amazon might as well mention the elephant in the room.  It at least goes to portray the smaller-tablet market as a two-horse race.  Sometimes its good to be Pepsi!

 

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post #96 of 99
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Originally Posted by AdonisSMU View Post

Most people claimed they couldn't tell the difference when the iPad 3 came out. 

 I could def tell the difference between the older screens and the retina display. 

post #97 of 99
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Originally Posted by macaholic_1948 View Post

Stereo speakers on anything the width of a tablet work great. You really get that stereo separation on the Kindle IF YOUR HEAD IS THE SIZE OF A CAT'S. Maybe. Stereo only works properly when there is a significant distance between the speakers.

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post #98 of 99
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Originally Posted by Hodar View Post

What are you really going to do with a Mac Mini? Chances are that you will simply read a book, or maybe watch a movie on the car/bus/plane. At this size, the odds of authoring email or doing a substancial amount of web surfing is probably not going to happen. This sort of activity would happen far more on a larger size screen - such as the full sized iPad.
Thus, for the market segment that the Mac Mini is offered at, I believe it is over-priced - and that the bang for the buck is truly in Amazon's court. It's simply a matter of chosing the right tool for the right job. For movies - it's passable, for books - more so. But, for anything productive - it's simply too small.

Right now,I use either my Touch or iPad to select the music in my iTunes library that I want to play through the Airport Express that's hooked up to my stereo. (I also have another Airport Express hooked up to the transmitter of my wireless headphones.) The Touch is too small and the iPad is too heavy. The iPad Mini is probably going to be the right size and weight. With Airplay I can select the video to send to my TV that is hooked up to an Apple TV. Add a WiFi IR blaster and this iPad mini becomes the ultimate universal remote control. Controlling both media and hardware from a single device that can easily be held with one hand while using the other to select the inputs on a custom, easy to read, touch screen. 

post #99 of 99
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Originally Posted by FreeRange View Post

Gizmodo - the site that knowingly and illegally held a stolen iPhone prototype and was prosecuted for same offense and has since been banned from Apple announcement events has come out against a clearly superior Apple product? What a surprise!

I wish apple would ban engadget.  that site is a circle-jerk of android fanboys.  the editors can't write an article about or mentioning apple without a ton of snark.  they are self-proclaimed android fanboys.  it's not good for apple to let them in.

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