Google announces Nexus 4 smartphone, Nexus 10 tablet, Android 4.2 - Page 2

Looks like Microsoft and Amazon have competition for second place.

Interesting - Now Google has a real brand in Nexus, with 3 products spanning different sizes and utility. Particularly interesting that they use LG to make Nexus 4, Asus to make Nexus 7 and Samsung to make Samsung 10. Have they heard of a company called Motorola?

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Originally Posted by Snowdog65 

I checked some other forums I am on, and I am surprised there isn't a bigger reaction to the Nexus 10 with it's 2560x1600 OLED screen.

 

This is the biggest/highest resolution OLED in a consumer device yet.

 

Though I bet it is Pentile, which will reduce effective ppi quite a bit.

 

Still I expected a bigger reaction to a 2560x1600 10" OLED.
 

High resolution screen with apps that are made to run on a small screen cell phone. Oh, OK.

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Originally Posted by GadgetCanada 

 

iphone 5 is the "5th" iphone?!!!! Hoo boy!!! Wait until TS gets a hold of you!!

That's why I put it in quotes, 5th redesign...

Originally Posted by GadgetCanada 
iphone 5 is the "5th" iphone?!!!! Hoo boy!!! Wait until TS gets a hold of you!!

To be fair, he did put it in quotes. But that completely invalidates his entire argument in the first place, so he was probably still intending it to mean "5th" without quotes. In which case, yeah, I'll tear into him. 

Originally Posted by lubernabei 
5th redesign...

NOPE. Third redesign. 

so - the great tablet shootout of Xmas 2012 has started.

Google/Samsung have put their best foot forward, copied a few more of Apple's innovations (e.g. Minicast), and added some good ones of their own (e.g. multiple users - why not, Apple?).

MS of course has launched the Surface RT with huge hype - but who actually needs it except for MS loyalists (all those IT guys)?

And Amazon is still focused on the bottom of the market with the Fire HD - probably will cut the price even more.

Apple of course did a major surprise spec bump to the iPad plus launched its expected new mini - definitely not merely sitting on its market advantage.

what this all adds up to is a lot of confusion in the marketplace, especially for those thinking about buying their first tablet for themselves or a gift. in such situations, most usually opt for the tried and true - in this case the iPad of course - because they can be sure it's at least not a mistake. they know no one will be disappointed opening a Xmas gift package with a mini inside.

this is the quarter that will determine the outcome of the war.

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Originally Posted by dasanman69 


Dude its lose not loose.

Dude it's  "it's" not "its".      What's your point in splitting hairs constantly? it's tiresome.

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Originally Posted by GadgetCanada 

 

I don't agree with this at all. When a company's board realizes their CEO is useless, they get rid of them. Like they did with John Sculley. He may get away with it for a while but eventually the board will toss them. The only time you here about CEO's are when they screw up because it makes great news. CEO's making great decisions never makes the news but it happens all the time every day. Usually the saying is "The cream rises to the top".

Most CEO's get there by using social skills, not by technical prowess. They took a decade to remove John Sculley, and nearly killed Apple in the process...

You only need to look at some of the decisions made at Nokia, RIMM and MIcrosoft over the past decade, to realise the sum is not firing on all cylinders.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

To be fair, he did put it in quotes. But that completely invalidates his entire argument in the first place, so he was probably still intending it to mean "5th" without quotes. In which case, yeah, I'll tear into him. 

 

 

NOPE. Third redesign. 

Congratulations.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

Hmm...I wonder if we'll get a front page ad from Amazon on how the Fire is superior to the Nexus 10? And I wonder if Steven Sinofsky will brand it a "recreational device".
If its built but Samsung no way would I buy it. Can't stand their cheap brushed aluminum looking plastic.

Its not brushed aluminum looking plastic.

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Originally Posted by snova 

the wireless charger is not proprietary? cool!!  what standard does it use and how much would it cost me to replace it?  certainly it will be cheaper than Apple's pricy $19 cable. right?

You can also charge the Nexus 4 using the micro-USB port.

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Originally Posted by drblank 

 

 

High resolution screen with apps that are made to run on a small screen cell phone. Oh, OK.

I am not saying I am interested, but one of the other forums is full of Apple Hating, spec sheet worshipers. I expected them to latch onto this as the next iPad killer, but I guess that is like the boy who cried wolf long after the Village was past the point of ignoring him. No one believes in iPad killers anymore.

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Originally Posted by stike vomit 

 

You can also charge the Nexus 4 using the micro-USB port.

nice going staying on topic.   Its like catching snakes swimming in lube.

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie 


Huh? Battery life? It 'only' does 500 standby. That's like 21 days, not 30. 9 hour video is good though.
iPad mini width: 134.7 mm
Nexus 10: 177.6
Apple thinks about there products, how usable they are. Google? CLC: Check List Company
Specs:
Nexus 10
Screen 10.055” 2560 x 1600 (300 ppi)
WQXGA, HD PLS
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2
Size W: 10.39 in (263.9 mm)
H: 6.99 in (177.6 mm)
D: 0.35 in (8.9 mm)
Weight 1.33 lbs (603 g)
Cameras 5MP (main), 1080p video
1.9MP (front), 720p video
Memory 16 GB or 32 GB (formatted capacity will be less)
CPU/GPU CPU: Dual-core A15 Eagle
GPU: Mali T604
RAM 2GB
Sensors Accelerometer, Compass, Ambient light, Gyroscope, Pressure, GPS
Wireless Dual-band Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n (MIMO+HT40)
Bluetooth
Dual-side NFC (Android Beam)
Connectivity Micro USB
Micro HDMI
3.5mm headphone jack
Battery 9,000 mAh Lithium polymer
Standby: up to 500 hours
Music playback: up to 90 hours
Video playback: up to 9 hours
Web browsing: up to 7 hours
OS Android 4.2 (Jelly Bean)
Nexus 4
Screen 4.7” 1280×768 (320ppi)
WXGA, HD IPS+
Corning® Gorilla® Glass 2
Size H: 5.27 in (133.9 mm)
W: 2.7 in (68.7 mm)
D: 0.36 in (9.1 mm)
Weight 0.31 lbs (139 g)
Cameras Main: 8MP BSI sensor, 1080p video
Front: 1.3MP, 720p video
Face recognition
Memory 8GB or 16GB (formatted capacity will be less)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro 1.5GHz (Adreno 320 GPU)
RAM 2GB
Sensors Accelerometer, Compass, Ambient light, Proximity, Gyroscope, Pressure, GPS
Network Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 42 Mbps
Wireless Wireless display on a Miracast compatible HD TV
Dual-band Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
Bluetooth
NFC (Android Beam)
Power Wireless charging (use any Qi-compatible charger)
2,100 mAH Li-polymer battery
Standby: up to 250 hours
Talk time: up to 10 hours
Music playback: up to 40 hours
Video playback: up to 8 hours
Web browsing: up to 7 hours
OS Android Jelly Bean (4.2)
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Pretty silent @ http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-4-announced-coming-november-13-20121029/

no LTE, no SD Card reader?

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Originally Posted by snova 

Anyone know why the 9.7" model is called a Nexus 10, yet the 4.7" model is called a Nexus 4?  Shouldn't one reason that the 4.7" model be called a Nexus 5 or the 9.7" model be called a Nexus 9?

try telling that to Tim Cook.  He also insists that iPad mini is not a 7" iPad. 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57541135-37/fact-checking-tim-cook-on-7-inch-tablets-and-microsofts-surface/

The 7-inch tablets are tweeners, too big to compete with a smartphone and too small to compete with an 

Cook's response was that Apple didn't make a 7-inch iPad, but rather an iPad with a display that was closer to 8 inches -- nine-tenths of an inch bigger than a 7-inche

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Originally Posted by dasanman69 


DOH Lol, a typo here and there is to be expected but he's constantly writing loose for lose.

I can't criticize.. I do it all the time myself.

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Originally Posted by tooltalk 

 

try telling that to Tim Cook.  He also insists that iPad mini is not a 7" iPad. 

 

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57541135-37/fact-checking-tim-cook-on-7-inch-tablets-and-microsofts-surface/

 

 

The 7-inch tablets are tweeners, too big to compete with a smartphone and too small to compete with an 

iPad.

Cook's response was that Apple didn't make a 7-inch iPad, but rather an iPad with a display that was closer to 8 inches -- nine-tenths of an inch bigger than a 7-inche

I missed something, its called an iPad 7?

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Originally Posted by Snowdog65 

Still I expected a bigger reaction to a 2560x1600 10" OLED.
 

Maybe that's because Samsung OLEDs have thus far exhibited crappy color accuracy.

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Originally Posted by charlituna 

Next year will be the iPhone 5G - Hang'em Style

Fixed that 4 u.

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Originally Posted by GadgetCanada 

 

I don't agree with this at all. When a company's board realizes their CEO is useless, they get rid of them. ...

How do you explain Balmer hanging in there as CEO at Microsoft? That they just haven't realized how useless he's been? How long will it take?

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie 


Huh? Battery life? It 'only' does 500 standby. That's like 21 days, not 30. 9 hour video is good though.
iPad mini width: 134.7 mm
Nexus 10: 177.6

You're mistakenly comparing the width of the 10" display Nexus 10 to the iPad Mini rather than the full-size iPad.

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Originally Posted by Cpsro 

Maybe that's because Samsung OLEDs have thus far exhibited crappy color accuracy.

It's not an OLED, though. It's a non-PenTile PLS LCD.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

So the Verge knocked the 4S for not having LTE, yet they devote a whole column to explain why the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE. And people still claim these tech sites don't have an anti-Apple bias?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte

It's only being launched on TMobile AFAIK, who doesn't have LTE. 

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

So the Verge knocked the 4S for not having LTE, yet they devote a whole column to explain why the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE. And people still claim these tech sites don't have an anti-Apple bias?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte

Andy Rubin put it this way: "Tactically, we want to make sure the devices are available for every network on the planet." For now, that means that the Nexus 4 will only be available as an unlocked HSPA+ device.

Excuses. Doesn't this mean it won't work on Verizon? And doesn't he also imply it'll never have LTE?

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 

So the Verge knocked the 4S for not having LTE, yet they devote a whole column to explain why the Nexus 4 doesn't have LTE. And people still claim these tech sites don't have an anti-Apple bias?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte

No kidding. The 4S was trashed and mocked for not having LTE, and panned for being 'years behind', a 'joke', etc. Yet more than a year later, Google's flagship Android phone doesnt have it, even when the newest iPhones/iPads do, and everyone is falling over themselves to justify it.