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iPad mini teardown finds Samsung LCD, design cues taken from iPhone 5

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A dissection of Apple's new iPad mini has revealed the device shares design choices and parts with the recently redesigned iPhone 5.

Mini teardown


In its teardown of the iPad mini, iFixit found the device has a large metal plate behind its screen held in place by 16 screws. Similar plates were found in the iPhone 5, as well as the new fifth-generation iPod touch, which led the repair experts to conclude the plate is a "new iDevice design convention."

The metal frame behind the screen is so small that it and the connector covers have enough metal to "forge at least two ? maybe three ? paperclips."

Mini teardown


Upon removing the thin panel, the first exposed integrated circuit is the Murata 339S0171 Wi-Fi module ? a component that is also found inside the iPhone 5.

The integrated circuits controlling the display reveal the LCD panel was built by Samsung. Apple is said to be looking to buy components from companies other than Samsung, which is a chief rival, but the Korean electronics maker was also the sole supplier of LCD panels for the third-generation iPad Retina display earlier this year.

Mini teardown


The disassembly also confirmed that the iPad mini does have stereo speakers. By replacing the 30-pin dock connector with the smaller Lightning port, Apple has "just enough space" to squeeze in a second speaker.

Antennas are also found atop each speaker in the iPad mini, presumably for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. The speakers are held in place by what iFixit said are some of the smallest screws they have ever seen.

Mini teardown


The Lightning connector was also found to be soldered to the logic board in the iPad mini, a change from the dock connector in the third-generation iPad that would make repairs "very expensive."

The full list of chips found on the logic board are:
  • Apple A5 processor
  • Hynix H2JTDG8UD2MBR 16 GB NAND Flash
  • Apple 343S0593-A5
  • Apple 338S1116 ? an unknown chip found also found in the fifth-generation iPod touch; appears similar to Apple 338S1117 found in iPhone 5
  • Fairchild PCHPS FDMC 6676BZ
  • Fairchild BC7BE F0MC 6683
post #2 of 24
Can't wait to get mine and NOT take it apart.
post #3 of 24

"Design cues taken from iPhone 5" sounds like you mean external design cues, which doesn't need a teardown to be seen. (internal-design cues, you meant to say)

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The speaker on my "New iPad" is pathetic, another speaker was a smart move. Hopefully, together they can put out about twice the volume.
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Is Samsung the only one in the world capable of making in cell LCD panels??  Apple must be desperate to still buy from them.  With Sony and Panasonic at record lost, cant the approach them to make some LCD's? 

 

I dont understand it, unless its just luck and those panels come from various suppliers and Apple need all the screens they can get there hands on.

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The speaker on my "New iPad" is pathetic…


I wouldn't imagine it being worse than the first iPad's speaker, which is quite good.

 

It's not going to be audiophile quality.

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post #7 of 24

Funny my iPhone 4S can be heard from other rooms when I crank it up.  My iPad is the same.  I haven't ever had a problem w/the volume level.

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I wouldn't imagine it being worse than the first iPad's speaker, which is quite good.

 

It's not going to be audiophile quality.

 

I've owned all iPads, bar the mini, and I wouldn't call the speaker on iPad 1 "quite good", ever. You could call them "surprising" or "not too bad" etc., but 'quite good' is a different matter. The Verge calls the minis' speakers "good-sounding set of stereo speakers", which is find interesting, because Josh is usually tough when rating audio - he gave them a 9/10 (he gave the 4th gen iPad speakers 8/10). I'll be interested to hear them when my friend brings over her mini.

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Funny my iPhone 4S can be heard from other rooms when I crank it up.  My iPad is the same.  I haven't ever had a problem w/the volume level.

 

It depends on what sort of podcasts you listen to and where you listen to them, i.e. while you cooking in the kitchen it can be hard to hear the voices, which I didn't have a problem hearing through my AirPlay speaker. (Loewe AirSpeaker, which I returned because of unreliability.)

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Is Samsung the only one in the world capable of making in cell LCD panels??  Apple must be desperate to still buy from them.  With Sony and Panasonic at record lost, cant the approach them to make some LCD's? 

 

I dont understand it, unless its just luck and those panels come from various suppliers and Apple need all the screens they can get there hands on.

 

Lots of times, especially when no bleeding edge technology is in play as is the case here, they will source screens from multiple suppliers.  Which particular screen is inside the particular iPad mini opened up by iFixit may or may not be representative of anything.  They may have only sourced 1% of the screens from Samsung and yet iFixit may have obtained one of those to open.  

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I wouldn't imagine it being worse than the first iPad's speaker, which is quite good.

 

It's not going to be audiophile quality.

 

 

Oh please, compared to AM radios the ipad sounds good.  Compared to the Kindle Fire HD, ipad speakers suck. 

No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages

look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post

Is Samsung the only one in the world capable of making in cell LCD panels??  Apple must be desperate to still buy from them.  With Sony and Panasonic at record lost, cant the approach them to make some LCD's? 

 

I dont understand it, unless its just luck and those panels come from various suppliers and Apple need all the screens they can get there hands on.

 

Yes, that's why Apple is buying from them. No other company can build them as well and as fast, as Samsung.

No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages

look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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The speaker on my "New iPad" is pathetic, another speaker was a smart move. Hopefully, together they can put out about twice the volume.

 

I agree, the speaker on my "new iPad" was surprisingly poor. I always thought a lot of it was because of the fact that the rounded design of the casing causes the sound to be directed away from you. The fact the mini will have stereo speakers and they will be pointed towards the listerner more should help a lot.

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It depends on what sort of podcasts you listen to and where you listen to them, i.e. while you cooking in the kitchen it can be hard to hear the voices, which I didn't have a problem hearing through my AirPlay speaker. (Loewe AirSpeaker, which I returned because of unreliability.)

 

I don't listen to podcasts, pretty much entirely music.  Back in March I flipped my phone upside down in my shirt pocket and used it like a transistor radio listening to NCAA March Madness games as I drove.  Didn't have any problems there either.  If you're really worried about hearing things well, use headphones.  I don't remember the model number on these Logitech in-ears, but they're working pretty well for me.

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Yes, that's why Apple is buying from them. No other company can build them as well and as fast, as Samsung.

with the R&D and manufacturing paid for by Apple, thank you.

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Is Samsung the only one in the world capable of making in cell LCD panels??  Apple must be desperate to still buy from them.  With Sony and Panasonic at record lost, cant the approach them to make some LCD's? 

I dont understand it, unless its just luck and those panels come from various suppliers and Apple need all the screens they can get there hands on.

Apple is probably getting them from multiple sources, and this one just happens to be a Samsung.
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Oh please, compared to AM radios the ipad sounds good.  Compared to the Kindle Fire HD, ipad speakers suck. 


Oh please, compared to real speakers, all tablet speakers suck.  So what's your point?

I mean really.  Do people have that high of expectations to expect serious stereo sounds from any device that's so small?  Come on people, there are seriously more important things to worry about.

You want real sound, use your headphones or airplay the darn thing through your "real" stereo system.  I have real-world standards, you should do the same.

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Funny my iPhone 4S can be heard from other rooms when I crank it up.  My iPad is the same.  I haven't ever had a problem w/the volume level.

 

Apple should have a gain switch, that allows people to crank up the volume beyond max, because certain apps are low in volume.

 

I watch live TV through my iPad sometimes, using the Time Warner app, and certain TV channels are simply not loud enough, even at full volume. They're ridiculously low. Now, that may be the app's fault or the TV channel's fault, but regardless, I should be able to crank up the volume more, when running into those situations where the volume is not acceptable and a boost is required.

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with the R&D and manufacturing paid for by Apple, thank you.

 

If Apple was so great, why dont they make it themselves? 

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with the R&D and manufacturing paid for by Apple, thank you.
As ludicrous as false...
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Originally Posted by Galbi View Post
If Apple was so great, why dont they make it themselves? 


Can I use this later for every industry on the face of the planet?

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Edited by MacRulez - 1/23/13 at 6:06am
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Exactly.  Try as they might, they can't get enough suppliers without continuing to do business with Samsung.


Just think about the sheer production volume. Few companies can provide the capacity and quality assurance. The world has not seen such scale before.

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If Apple was so great, why dont they make it themselves? 

 

 

 

Because that would be stupid. Paying for the infrastructure to build the factories would be very expensive, and Apple would have to pass the cost on to consumers. Further, Apple got out of manufacturing for a variety or reasoning including it is easier on its earnings to not have to account for manufacturing operations. It is more smart to partner with an established player who already has some infrastructure. That is exactly what Apple did. Apple invested a 100 million dollars back in 1999 to help build Samsung's LCD operations. For what it is worth Dell invested 200 million for the same deal Apple got for 100 million. Part of the reason Samsung is able to meet Apple's demands better than some of the other competition is Apple partnered with Samsung a long time ago. 


Edited by TBell - 11/1/12 at 6:33pm
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