Apple announces 3M sales of iPad mini, fourth-gen iPad - Page 5

I want to know how many Apple sold of each color? Why aren't they telling us? What do they have to hide? Why didn't they call the Kindle Fire HD an act of terror right away?

Your scenario was obviously made up and I never mentioned 7" tablets, only that 10" was the minimum size for tablet apps. Which you still haven't told me what that entire sentence means to you. I know you have always been pro a smaller tablet but many here ridiculed any tablet that wasn't around 10".
Edited by dasanman69 - 11/5/12 at 10:31am

Um, yeah, what part of 'scenario' did you not understand?

Eh. Kindle Fire doesn't feel that durable. It does look nice. I tried to see what it sounds like, but there was no sample media loaded onto the display model. I forgot to check if there was a way to go to their internet store and play sample from there.


On the topic of Amazon and reporting, Apple is far better than Amazon doesn't say how may Kindles sold, period. The best they give is "we sold a LOT!", which is really just smoke and mirrors, because there is no way to know if a lot is 100k or 100M units. If I were an AMZN shareholder, I'd be nervous about the lack of figures.

 

When did they know, and what did they know it?

A couple things about the Kindle Fire HD that don't get mentioned is that 1) The $199 entry price is which ads, and 2) They have an unusual pricing structure for doubling the capacity that range from $50, $70 to $100 depending on the physical size of the device and if it has Cellular or not. If Apple did those things just imagine the uproar.

 

Why would that be obvious?

 

Is this how it works? 

 

"wow, my new iPad absolutely smokes all my Apps. Hey developers, quick, make me some new apps that I didn't know I wanted that are more awesomer."

 

Is this what life has become in the brave new world?

It's safe to assume MOST of these sales are from the Mini, as I doubt many ran out to buy the new iPad. Off to an amazing start, as expected, and naturally all this 'noone wants a mini', 'weak demand', horse-shit the media has been running has been just that- horse-shit.

No, he said the current crop of 7" Android tablets were DOA.

 

He was 100% correct.

Using the rationale that iPad mini sold out and iPad 4 did not, at least as far as we know. It may not be irrefutable logic, but it makes sense to me.

Because it's less expensive and more portable. One can buy 3 minis for less than 2 iPads.

 

Absolutely agree.  I've said all along that the mini is a huge market, but that it'll take some time for people to warm up to the idea of a smaller tablet screen.  Just wait 'til more people get their hands on a mini to demo (esp cellular models)...sales will be red hot!

 

For AAPL, it would be even better to get a chunk of the cellular profits as well...I can see most users wanting (nearly) always on 3G/4G celluar connection for their mini.  I abhor watching large wireless corporations rake in profits due to inflation of data service pricing.

He said both and was wrong both times.

 

Guess the iPod shuffle is the best-selling iPod.

 

Guess 7" Android tablets will sell better than the iPad mini, too!

 

"It's based on more than that."

YEAH, it's based on more than that; it's based on usability and utility, too.

Apple is one of the stock most owned by hedge funds.

 

What do you do with healthy stocks that will eventually go up again when the healthy numbers shows up?

You do things to lower their current values, buy some shares, so when the rumours evaporates you make a larger profit.

 

It is the volatility of AAPL that makes it interesting for so called investors, it wouldn't be so interesting if it was only going up.

Some of them even sell large stock quantities to make it dip, just to buy them back when they are at their lowest.

 

With all those analyst wannabes, it is just so easy to influence AAPL stock value with just a fee rumours.

For years now, everything is used as a prediction to Apple failure, at least for a couple of hours, days or weeks, just the time needed for "investors" to make a bit more money.

And how much less usable is the iPad mini to the iPad? The shuffle is a bad example it offered very little compared to the iPod, and obviously anyone heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem isn't going to buy a Android tablet no matter what size it is or what it offers.

They have never reported how many they have sold. Period. 

Strange... We actually agree, which you may have noticed when quoting it if you checked who gave it the thumbs-up.

Yes? 

Agreed. Anything more would be unnecessarily providing the competition (and analysts) more information than they need.

 

If they want it, they should do their own business intelligence. (Which, I am sure they do; which, I am guessing has led to much sobbing in Seoul and Seattle in the past few hours).

 

It's better than Microsoft's report on the early sales of Surface. Seen that?

 

Good point. A few months back I tried to find Samsung numbers and couldn't. If they are out there, they aren't anywhere easy to find.

 

Actually, the ipad mini is not a 7" tablet.  The fact that is 7.9 with a 4:3 ratio makes a great tablet. When using a 7" you really feel you are handling a compromise device.   The mini is every inch an ipad indeed.

 

And because the mini has the same height as the Nexus 7, they both display the same screen size when watching a 16:9 movie.

No TS, you are wrong. It will become the best selling iPad. Because it offers the same experience (or close enough for most people) in a smaller lighter and cheaper package. When everything else is equal, size, portability and price matter. It won't suit everyone but the new iPad is what the 13" MBP is to the 15" MBP. 

 

I know you HATE to be wrong... but I'm sorry.

 

Had they made some tiny numbers like 1,000 minis and most of the sales were the new big iPad, they wouldn't be rushing to make more.

 

Schools, doctors, waiters, travel agents, salesmen... to name a few in business.

 

Moms, kids, non-techies... to name a few in consumers.

 

One of my grandkids (who has an iPad 2) wants a mini so she can "cuddle it".

 

Mmmm.... I agree with everything, especially the 4G cellular.  My oldest grandson has had his iPhone 5 for a month...  Got the first bill...  $540 of LTE data charges...

 

No unlimited 4G data on ATT...

 

It turns out several popular games require continuous internet connection.  He would pass the time in the car, waiting somewhere, etc. playing these games.

 

Maybe time for a US MVNO,

 

Seems odd that you know exactly what the future's like. And for more reasons than the aleph-null minus one number of possibilities of futures.

 

 

Ah, but it doesn't. If you need to do any work, the regular iPad is the one to get.

 

 

So the 13" MacBook Pro's keyboard(s) are of different sizes than the 15" MacBook Pro's keyboard(s)?

...YES, I agree!...and that's why in its CURRENT form, data/cellular cost is almost unbearable.  There really needs to be a dramatic change in wireless data services.  Most Americans (pardon my USA-only comment) would agree that data services here is subpar (i.e. bad LOS and high costs) and it will only get worse unless there is a shake-up in the industry.  Would be interesting if Apple could instigate a positive change to the industry!...positive for consumers, that is.

Yep! He's been wrong on the mini for the entire year since the first rumors started. First he said Apple would never do it because it was a bad idea. Then when it was announced he said it was still a bad idea and Apple is making a mistake. Now that it has sold out on launch, he still thinks it is a bad idea and the full size iPad will out sell the mini. Let's give him another year just to be sure.

 

TS would rather starve to death before eating crow.

 

Again, I'm interested in how you can say this about the iPad mini. 

 

The regular iPad will be purchased for work, the mini for… what? People who thought they wanted a smaller eReader. 

I was one of those people that was an early skeptic of the viability of a smaller iPad.  Then, I began to think maybe -- but it had to be price competitive, say, $249 for a 16 GB model...

 

I was wrong!  As soon as you get your hands on an iPad Mini, you realize that this is the "best seller" tablet for the next few years.  It is a perfect combination of utility, quality and desirability... and the price is secondary -- when it is what you want!

I'd say for work, too. In fact, I'd say that the smaller size and lower cost make it much more ideal for types of work with very specific tasks in mind. Now, if it's going to be your primary way to use the internet in a Post PC world I would recommend the 9.7" model but for many work environments and for many users the 7.9" model might be just fine.

Like I said, I think you are wrong but let's give it some time. You may be right. The iPad mini might end up being a flop after all but I don't think Las Vegas would be giving you very good odds on this one.

What?!  Please, stop burying your head in the sand.  There are a plethora of professions that could use a smaller form function than the 9.7" iPad.

Yeah the motorcycle cop can write you an e-ticket. Press the "I agree button". Saves him time at the end of the shift since it already synced the license plate, GPS and time with the court computer. Free app idea!

This is what is holding back sales as well...the fact that many think that retina display will be available next year at same cost (and without any negative tradeoffs, like battery life or processing).  Many will not buy immediately but will wait 'til next year.

 

Let's see if Apple marketing can convince most to ignore that.

 

Keep in mind that this is a VERY DIFFERENT argument than TS's (i.e. that people just don't want a mini because it's too small, not functional, etc, etc).

SOT:

 

Has anyone seen any reports of WART Surface sales numbers?