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iPad mini display found to be 'just very capable,' outperformed by rivals

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An in-depth look at iPad mini's display found the 7.9-inch panel to be wanting in many areas where Apple usually excels, such as color gamut, and is surpassed by competing devices from Google and Amazon.

In his "iPad mini Display Technology Shoot-Out," Dr. Raymond Soneira of DisplayMate pitted Apple's new mid-size tablet against the Google Nexus 7 and Amazon Kindle Fire HD, and found a number of compromises and "poor choices" resulted in a less-than perfect product.

The comprehensive test used lab measurements and multiple viewing tests with both test patterns and test images to assess the devices' screen reflectivity, brightness and contrast, colors and intensities, viewing angles, display backlight power consumption, and running time on battery.

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Perhaps the most discussed attribute of the iPad mini's screen is its low pixel count relative to the Retina display units found in other current iOS devices like the full-size iPad and iPhone 5. Soneira noted that such a panel would have required a 326-pixel per inch pixel density over more than four times the real estate of the iPhone 5. Citing cost and manufacturing yields, he said such a screen is "out of the question." Because Apple has traditionally used the screen resolutions of 1,024 by 768 pixels and 2,048 by 1,536 pixels, compatibility called for the mini to retain a pixel density of 163ppi.

Both the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire HD outperformed the mini in sharpness tests.

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Google's Nexus 7.


"While screen Resolution gets lots of attention from both consumers and marketers ? it?s really only critical for providing visually sharp text ? but that applies for most applications running on a Tablet," Soneira wrote. "The $199 Amazon Kindle Fire HD and Google Nexus 7 both have considerably sharper displays with 216 Pixels Per Inch, and they both delivered considerably sharper text."

He went on to say that Apple could have used sub-pixel rendering to sharpen on-screen images and text, much like the technology used in other tablets with relatively low resolutions.

Two other major areas of concern for the iPad mini were in its color gamut and screen reflectance. Apple's tablet fell surprisingly short with an "antiquated" 62 percent color gamut, compared to the Nexus and Kindle's 86 percent. The return to previous-generation LCD technology marks a huge step backwards from the 100 precent color gamut found in the third-generation iPad and iPhone 5.

As for screen reflectance, the mini reflected 53 percent more ambient light than the Nexus and 41 percent more than the Fire, a significant problem for an ultra-portable tablet meant to be used in a wide variety of situations.

Kindle Fire HD
Amazon's Kindle Fire HD.


Despite the shortcomings, Apple's device was able to achieve high picture quality and accurate color reproduction due to color management processing not usually found in tablets and smartphones.

"The iPad mini is certainly a very capable small Tablet, but it does not follow in Apple?s tradition of providing the best display, or at least a great display ? it has just a very capable display," Soneira said, pointing out the less expensive Amazon and Google tablets outperform the mini in many tests. "Some of this results from constraints within the iPad product line, and some to realistic constraints on display technology and costs, but much of it is due to a number of poor choices and compromises."

Soneira's findings come just days after the iPad mini's screen was literally put under the microscope and compared with the original iPad, the iPad 2, and the fourth-generation iPad.
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If the 4x retina display is way too expensive for the mini, I really hope Apple would reconsider another resolution for iPad mini 2. Yes the dev would have to do more work for sure, but if let's say they need 2 years to get the mini to adopt 4x resolution, I say forget about it and just do a 2x resolution. It's not the end of the world for the devs. Android has a lot more resolutions and it's a hassle but a lot of apps still can do it fine on Android. 

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Like I've said before, I'm waiting on a Retina iPad mini. After using a Retina iPad for months and a Retina iPhone for three years, I can't go back.
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Well I like the look of it, and since i am into the eco-system, especially with Apps, I ordered a ATT one, to replace my iPad 3. I like the idea of lighter and thinner - i will replace this if/when the iPad 3 replacement appears.
KInda wish this version mini did have higher res display - but i can really only know that for sure after a couple days of use
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It's amazing how appealing the iPad mini is to about 89% of the population. Us nerds here on AI think we represent most users. We don't. Most of us (ie., our parents) could give a shit about 'color gamut'.

Only the nerds at Google and Samsung bring these things up, especially when they flaunt CPU cores and VRAM, and bandy about those specs to old people as if they were retirement savings specifications, which is something they do give a shit about.

It's funny watching Apple reps have to talk about cores and RAM and gamut; it makes them cringe, as it doesn't define the experience nor the way their products are intended to be used.
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@drobforever retina is 2x the resolution, which is 4x the number of pixels. Yes, Android has many resolutions and developers piss and moan about it. You don't understand the craft of finely tuning a great app UI and then having to modify it for various sizes.

Additionally, a higher resolution screen would need a bigger battery, which would make the device thicker and heavier and challenge getting a good 10 hours of use.

However, lower color gamut as reported here **I guess** is disappointing, except for that they turn around and say the color is accurate because of software processing%u2026so%u2026is this really a problem?
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It's amazing how appealing the iPad mini is to about 89% of the population. Us nerds here on AI think we represent most users. We don't. Most of us (ie., our parents) could give a shit about 'color gamut'.
Only the nerds at Google and Samsung bring these things up, especially when they flaunt CPU cores and VRAM, and bandy about those specs to old people as if they were retirement savings specifications, which is something they do give a shit about.
It's funny watching Apple reps have to talk about cores and RAM and gamut; it makes them cringe, as it doesn't define the experience nor the way their products are intended to be used.


I'm  so fed up with the "Spec whores" spewing irrelevant crap out of their mouths like it actually is the end-all-be-all.  Of course, that's why their junk is selling so much better than Apple's offerings right??  Certainly, the countless of millions of satisfied Apple consumers are all brainwashed sheep and not because the Android offering have been downright garbage right?

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If the 4x retina display is way too expensive for the mini, I really hope Apple would reconsider another resolution for iPad mini 2. Yes the dev would have to do more work for sure, but if let's say they need 2 years to get the mini to adopt 4x resolution, I say forget about it and just do a 2x resolution. It's not the end of the world for the devs. Android has a lot more resolutions and it's a hassle but a lot of apps still can do it fine on Android. 


It goes from 1x to 4x or 9x.  It is double the width and double the length.  Also, I think that Apple wants to conform the same screen size.  In the iPhone5 comes out with an extra row of icon, it happens that most of the apps are conformed to the iPhone4 standard.  So a lot of apps do not take advantage of the extra row.  Over time, Apple wants to have one screen format for tablet, another for phone to allow compatibility for software.  There are so many different shapes and sizes for Android devices, it will drive the developers crazy.

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It's amazing how appealing the iPad mini is to about 89% of the population. Us nerds here on AI think we represent most users. We don't. Most of us (ie., our parents) could give a shit about 'color gamut'.
Only the nerds at Google and Samsung bring these things up, especially when they flaunt CPU cores and VRAM, and bandy about those specs to old people as if they were retirement savings specifications, which is something they do give a shit about.
It's funny watching Apple reps have to talk about cores and RAM and gamut; it makes them cringe, as it doesn't define the experience nor the way their products are intended to be used.

You've got a good point, but not in the case of measurements of screen quality.  If a processor is 20% slower than that in a competing product, the difference may not be noticeable because of software optimizations and because processor speed isn't something we have a direct sense of.  On the other hand, measurements of screen quality are immediately apparent to people.  You don't need a number for coverage of the standard color gamut to see how colorful a display is.  Anyone could look at two screens side by side and tell you which is more colorful or which is sharper.

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 Certainly, the countless of millions of satisfied Apple consumers are all brainwashed sheep and not because the Android offering have been downright garbage right?

The truth is somewhere in the middle. Just look at the drones that queue in line for the latest iDevice or camp out for days. Even I'm not immune; I just HAVE to get the latest iPhone no matter if I really need it or not. Hell, I even paid $250 extra for upgrading early from my iPhone 4S to my iPhone 5 under contract.
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The truth is somewhere in the middle. Just look at the drones that queue in line for the latest iDevice or camp out for days. Even I'm not immune; I just HAVE to get the latest iPhone no matter if I really need it or not. Hell, I even paid $250 extra for upgrading early from my iPhone 4S to my iPhone 5 under contract.


I'm not saying smack about that.  The folks that line up at Apple stores I think represent the very small minority of all the buyers of Apple gear.  I waiting in line for the first iP4 back in 2010 just to say I did it and it was a totally fun experience which I don't think I would do again.  To each their own on that.  Some I think are too hardcore.

The millions upon millions of people that buy Apple gear just do not represent the jerks that infest this forum that mouth-off "pixels", Ghz, Tegra, and "mommy, can you fix me dinner?" nonsense.  The blogs of wannabe journalists just fan the flames because that provides web-hits, whether it's true or not.  Just gets really old.

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This is what happens when Apple spoils us with high resolution tech. Lol, I think apple had to introduce something at $330, even if they make 48% profit now they will introduce retina version next year for the same price at, maybe, at 20% profit. This way apple doesn't have to increase any price. They now have a device in every price csttegory, which is pretty amazing for business.1cool.gif
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For the record, I only understand the true advantages of the iPad mini when my wife bought one.

It's lighter, more portable, can put in your jacket pocket, and the speed is good enough.

I tested side by side with my iPad 3 on games, iBooks, surfing same web pages, Zinio magazines for the last 3 days.

I have come to the conclusion that the iPad mini is muh better in very way than the iPad 3 I have. Now I pick up my iPad 3 and it feels like a stack of heavy plates.

I even downloaded the new Need for Speed and it ran smoothly on the iPad mini. I even compared side by side and it was very hard to tell the difference. Ofcourse the retina iPad was better but not enough to make a big difference. It made me look at the mini and say wow. No lags, in fact my iPad 3 lagged in areas because of the high res screen.

I am totally sold, will sell my iPad 3 for a mini.

Don't believe the reviews and other people comment here until you fully tested it side by side for a few days in every app. You will be pleasantly surprised!!!!
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Let's not sugar coat things. The iPad mini made some compromises because Apple figured, probably quite correctly, that it could get away with it for now. My guess is that it gets a Retina Display in a year or two once yields improve. At that point, it might well supplant the 9.7" iPad as Apple's most popular tablet. For now, I see this product having lots of appeal with women (because of the size), children, schools, and budget conscious people who want access to the Apple ecosystem
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For the record, I only understand the true advantages of the iPad mini when my wife bought one.
It's lighter, more portable, can put in your jacket pocket, and the speed is good enough.
I tested side by side with my iPad 3 on games, iBooks, surfing same web pages, Zinio magazines for the last 3 days.
I have come to the conclusion that the iPad mini is muh better in very way than the iPad 3 I have. Now I pick up my iPad 3 and it feels like a stack of heavy plates.
I even downloaded the new Need for Speed and it ran smoothly on the iPad mini. I even compared side by side and it was very hard to tell the difference. Ofcourse the retina iPad was better but not enough to make a big difference. It made me look at the mini and say wow. No lags, in fact my iPad 3 lagged in areas because of the high res screen.
I am totally sold, will sell my iPad 3 for a mini.
Don't believe the reviews and other people comment here until you fully tested it side by side for a few days in every app. You will be pleasantly surprised!!!!
I think the majority would feel the same way. Ease of use has a lot to do with weight and size. Unless the screen is so bad that it ruins the experience it just won't make a difference. The light portable one wins the day. When the user experience is great specs are of little importance. It reminds me of a story where rich young man is eyeing a Rollls Royce Silver Spur and asks the salesman how many horsepower it has. The salesman looks at the young man for a moment and then replies: Plenty.
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An in-depth look at iPad mini's display found the 7.9-inch panel to be wanting in many areas where Apple usually excels, such as color gamut, and is surpassed by competing devices from Google and Amazon.
In his "iPad mini Display Technology Shoot-Out," Dr. Raymond Soneira of DisplayMate ......

Yeah, that's the why it will bomb, and why Apple is doomed.™

 

Who the heck is 'DisplayMate' anyway? Just going by the name, sounds like some third-rate doofus Toys R'Us outfit that AI just made famous....

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Just in case some of you already forgot...

 

 

No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD than any iPad.

No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages

look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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post #18 of 90

Got my mini at Walmart on Friday and I agree. The form factor, the light weight, and the build quality are all pretty damn close to perfect. The display is adequate, but is the obvious weak point for anyone who has owned a retina iPad or iPhone or high-res Android phone or tablet. Overall, it's still damn good, but not quite an absolute home run because of that display.

LOL people should just enjoy whatever phone they prefer and stop being d-bags about other phones they don't use. Fanboys are pathetic, regardless of whether they are Android or Apple ones.
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Like I've said before, I'm waiting on a Retina iPad mini. After using a Retina iPad for months and a Retina iPhone for three years, I can't go back.

I see this Mini as a proof of concept machine, much like iPad 1 established that there was indeed a market for a well done tablet. As far as pixel count goes Apple could always shoot for a odd multiplier, say 1.5 or what ever works well in binary for next year. I suspect the limitation Apple has is in managing battery power usage or life, something that is important to many users.

Me I'm trying to resist buying an iPad 4 this year and frankly don't have a use for the Mini right now. Instead I will engage in admiration from afar.
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I never understood those that felt the Mini was a bad idea. People on the move will gobble this up big time.
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For the record, I only understand the true advantages of the iPad mini when my wife bought one.
It's lighter, more portable, can put in your jacket pocket, and the speed is good enough.
I tested side by side with my iPad 3 on games, iBooks, surfing same web pages, Zinio magazines for the last 3 days.
I have come to the conclusion that the iPad mini is muh better in very way than the iPad 3 I have. Now I pick up my iPad 3 and it feels like a stack of heavy plates.
I even downloaded the new Need for Speed and it ran smoothly on the iPad mini. I even compared side by side and it was very hard to tell the difference. Ofcourse the retina iPad was better but not enough to make a big difference. It made me look at the mini and say wow. No lags, in fact my iPad 3 lagged in areas because of the high res screen.
I am totally sold, will sell my iPad 3 for a mini.
Don't believe the reviews and other people comment here until you fully tested it side by side for a few days in every app. You will be pleasantly surprised!!!!
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The things geeks obsess over! Like a bunch of ten-year olds arguing over the merits of marbles in the schoolyard. 

 

Played with one yesterday and the screen is not going to be an issue for most users. Beautiful industrial design, light, balanced and well-sized to hold, with the bare minimum display area for easy use of iPad apps. And the thing is Responsive, web pages load and render quickly, photos look great, the cameras are great for what they are meant for. Since small text display on mini leaves a bit to be desired, I expect by this time next year a 300-dpi edition (with A6) will have come out and this one will be sold a bit cheaper for the value-buyer-, education, etc. markets. 

 

 

Enz

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It's interesting how apple fans point out how much better the iPhone 5 screen is vs GSIII (myself included)
But when the other guys do well, y'all whim that it doesn't matter.
Don't be hypocites, the cheaper tablets have been screens. The end.

I don't care for mini or other tablets. I love my ipad 2 and wouldn't mind the iPad 4th gen.
But google offers a better specs tablet in the nexus 7. Mainly with screen.
I don't know anything about androids, they are nice ( but I like things to work well)

I really think android is just now showing up on the tablet market.
I would like apple to make a fine point stylus that would on the iPad ( or the new ones anyway)
Otherwise, in 5 years when my 2 is worn out, I make look for an android that has one.
I love my iPad 2 though

PS, I use a stylus for my iPad 2 and they are OK but I feel like the iPad is really sold short on its true potential, just my 2 bits

Don't say iPhone screen is better then turn around and say, " only geeks care"
Cause I notice the difference between my iPad 2, iPhone 5, and the galaxy's.
the galaxy's look cool but aren't that good, the iPhone is the best and iPad 2 which is close to the mini is almost just sad for reading (really all I use mine for is college, but I'm used to the lower quality screen on my iPad.
For a book reading deal, I'd rather higher quality
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I am slightly surprised Apple didn't go with a higher resolution screen on the 32 or 64 GB versions-- they have the margin easily.

Then I think back to the history of every product they have ever made and recall the need for a compelling upgrade case. Retina will be here next update. Which keeps me from buying this time around, sadly. I want the toys, but I don't need to be throwing my money away.
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The display is adequate, but is the obvious weak point for anyone who has owned a retina iPad or iPhone or high-res Android phone or tablet.
They didn't really design it for you, or any of those people. They figure if you have a retina display iPad, or an Android, you won't be buying a mini. This is targeted at the market that does not yet have an iDevice, or only has a 3GS, or an original iPad due to cost, and certainly expects anybody who has invested in quality Android devices to ignore it. As such, these people don't know what they are missing and the mini will look like the best thing ever for the price. The fact that all these Apple early adopters with more dollars than sense are running out to buy one to add to their collection of Apple gadgets so they can be the first kid on their block to have one -- and notice the difference between their more expensive devices -- doesn't mean Apple missed the mark here. Apple will likely find that users will find ways to use the mini they never anticipated and the mini will evolve accordingly. In fact I suspect that Apple is a little surprised by how many current iPad owners also want a mini.
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I am slightly surprised Apple didn't go with a higher resolution screen on the 32 or 64 GB versions-- they have the margin easily.

Then I think back to the history of every product they have ever made and recall the need for a compelling upgrade case. Retina will be here next update. Which keeps me from buying this time around, sadly. I want the toys, but I don't need to be throwing my money away.

1) Apple has never altered the display resolution of an iDevice simply because you bought a higher capacity model.

2) Having varying resolutions would be an issue for devs and therefore users. If you are suggesting they could go with 2048x1536 (double the resolution) I don't see that as possible for the given weight for the duration which I think are pinnacle to this device's success in the market. It's also not something that would be inexpensive. In fact, everything points to it being more costly to build than the same resolution display in the 10" iPad.

3) I hope Retina display comes to the mini next year but I don't expect it. Rogue 6 will be required, which isn't due until the 2nd half of the year, and the mini is already using the ASIC from 2011, but with the 32nm process. Following that pattern the Retina iPad mini won't arrive until 2014.

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apple should add retina display with the same price. it will still work for most people. but how they were stupid enough not to concern future market share because apple just thinks that they will sell tons of it again no matter what. it's wrong. the game has been changed. they don't realize themselves why AAPL has been falling almost for two months. it means that customers slowly realize that they can buy better products with cheap price. apple is not main buying anymore. if apple won't realize it, the company will fail badly just like MS.
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apple should add retina display with the same price. it will still work for most people. but how they were stupid enough not to concern future market share because apple just thinks that they will sell tons of it again no matter what. it's wrong. the game has been changed. they don't realize themselves why AAPL has been falling almost for two months. it means that customers slowly realize that they can buy better products with cheap price. apple is not main buying anymore. if apple won't realize it, the company will fail badly just like MS.

They might not be able to still use the same processor, battery, etc. to drive a retina display of that size.  They will have to make it thicker, which result in a heavier product and obviously a more costly everything.

 

It's a tough decision that must be made.  I don't think the mini is a bad product, but it could certainly be better, it's just a matter of a redesign for the next release.

 

But i think the weight and thickness were important issues they wanted to have.

 

Everything has a compromise i guess.

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Try it out the mini display is great.

 

Comparing specs IMHO is useless because no one can tell the difference even gruber is wrong, he talked as if his eyes are super sharp and ken easily differential retina and non retina.

 

The trick is the word retina which automatically form an image in the mind but in reality the mini display looks just as good.

 

Kind of remind me that a photo taken by a Leica must be great while the rest is inferior but if there is no mention of a brand every photo looks the same and some even commented the other brands' photos were better.

post #29 of 90
Wake Up everyone: mini was really not made for reading text.

It's pitched as a serious allround tablet for the whole family, but in practice consumers will judge and use it as a *game computer*.

It's the same case with iPad already.

They essentially compete with Play Station, XBox, Nintendo and laptops. Not ereaders or 'Galaxy Notes'.
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The trick is the word retina which automatically form an image in the mind but in reality the mini display looks just as good.

It doesn't look as good as any Retina display Apple sells. It's better than the iPad 2 display and better than the 3GS display for reasons of pixel density and display panel type, respectively, but it's not as good as their Retina display offerings for someone with decent vision who has been using an iPad (3) since it came out. That doesn't mean it's not a great device for today but it's simply not as good as other displays. Neither is my 13" MBP display which is barely over 100 PPI and has a TN panel but I would still love for iBooks to be added to the Mac App Store.

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I went into the Apple store to buy an iPad mini because I have the iPad3 and although I really like it it's just at tad too big and too heavy for my taste, especially since it has such a big bezel around it (why the iPad4 has a big bezel and the iPad mini doesn't is a mystery to me since both were released at the same time!!! To me that's just inconsistent.)

Anyway, I pick up the iPad mini to play around with it and the first thing that stuck out to me was the cheap looking display, I was shocked! How could Apple want a premium price in this category with such a last last generation display with last last generation performance (A5 chip, only 512MB RAM!!!!!).

That is unacceptable to me so I left.
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 (why the iPad4 has a big bezel and the iPad mini doesn't is a mystery to me since both were released at the same time!!! To me that's just inconsistent.)
 

 

That's no mystery, it's plain common sense. There's a good reason why the 9.7" iPad has a larger bezel than the 7.9" iPad Mini. 

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I went into the Apple store to buy an iPad mini because I have the iPad3 and although I really like it it's just at tad too big and too heavy for my taste, especially since it has such a big bezel around it (why the iPad4 has a big bezel and the iPad mini doesn't is a mystery to me since both were released at the same time!!! To me that's just inconsistent.)
Anyway, I pick up the iPad mini to play around with it and the first thing that stuck out to me was the cheap looking display, I was shocked! How could Apple want a premium price in this category with such a last last generation display with last last generation performance (A5 chip, only 512MB RAM!!!!!).
That is unacceptable to me so I left.

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Yet they're failing to address what may very well be the single biggest "display measurement' for tablet use:  aspect ratio.

 

For reading and web-browsing, as well as many apps, using the tablet in portrait mode is better, and a 4:3 aspect ratio is far superior.  There is a reason why throughout history, when people record written material, they have generally done so on a format that was longer than it was wide.

 

Look at the aspect ratio of a pad of paper or a book.  It's better for reading.  It's better for web browsing.

 

Sure, for watching a movie or viewing "landscape" photos, 16:9 is better.  But for most small tablet users, that ends up being a less-important use than web-browsing or reading.

 

To most users, this difference will be much more significant than a few pixels or color gamut.

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You've got a good point, but not in the case of measurements of screen quality.  If a processor is 20% slower than that in a competing product, the difference may not be noticeable because of software optimizations and because processor speed isn't something we have a direct sense of.  On the other hand, measurements of screen quality are immediately apparent to people.  You don't need a number for coverage of the standard color gamut to see how colorful a display is.  Anyone could look at two screens side by side and tell you which is more colorful or which is sharper.

 

Maybe...maybe in a side-by-side comparison the average user could discern a difference.

 

But probably not otherwise. 

 

I use an iPad 3 extensively.  I am also keening interested in the iPad mini as I am an AAPL shareholder.  So last Saturday I was using my iPad 3 for a couple hours.  Then I happened to be near my local Apple store, so I stopped in to investigate the mini...in particular how it's reportedly "inferior" display would work out.

 

Well...I must say I absolutely loved it.  The enormous reduction in weight made it a pleasure to hold, and I honestly could not notice any significant difference in the display quality.  I'm not doubting that an in-lab, or even a side-by-side, comparison wouldn't reveal a difference.  Yet for an iPad 3 Retina user, who had just been using the iPad 3 for hours, and was very intentionally evaluating the quality of the screen wearing the "investor" hat...I honestly could not see a definite difference.

 

I would encourage everyone to actually use one before disparaging it.

 

Now to the real world:  the overwhelming number of consumers will NOT do a side-by-side comparison.  They may try various tablets, but few will do it side-by-side.  So when they try the iPad mini, what they'll notice is how good the construction feels, how light it is, and how much they prefer the 4:3 aspect ratio.  And Apple will sell millions and millions of these.

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I went into the Apple store to buy an iPad mini because I have the iPad3 and although I really like it it's just at tad too big and too heavy for my taste, especially since it has such a big bezel around it (why the iPad4 has a big bezel and the iPad mini doesn't is a mystery to me since both were released at the same time!!! To me that's just inconsistent.)
Anyway, I pick up the iPad mini to play around with it and the first thing that stuck out to me was the cheap looking display, I was shocked! How could Apple want a premium price in this category with such a last last generation display with last last generation performance (A5 chip, only 512MB RAM!!!!!).
That is unacceptable to me so I left.

Good. Hope you don't come back!

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That is unacceptable to me so I left.

 

Unacceptable to you, was it?

 

That settles it then; they need to shut down the company and give the money back to the shareholders.

post #38 of 90
Sadly it is what I expected with the distinct lack of information on it. Apple probably got a very good deal to get build costs very low. Obviously everyone will need the improved mini come February.
post #39 of 90
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sub-pixel rendering to sharpen on-screen images and text
Sub-pixel rendering cannot sharpen images, only text and graphics. This point was taken incorrectly out of the article.
post #40 of 90
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Originally Posted by Russell View Post

No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD than any iPad.
Why would a 1080p movie look any different on two screens with resolutions higher than 1920x1080?
They don't. Oh wait, the kindle HD is below that at 1280x800.
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