Election Day U.S.A.

Hey, thanks. Not only for the sentiment, but for the non-partisan words. There aren't many in PO. 

I think they got rid of most of those systems. I vote on a paper ballot that's scanned. 

 

I sort of wish my state would do that. I'm a "bleeding-edge technology" guy, but really, when there's no legal standard baseline for these electronic machines, they could be calibrated to say whatever anyone wants. It wouldn't matter how you vote; it could be changed in the code to appear one way and vote the other.

 

Now, the same's true for paper. Anyone can just burn or shred the ballots they don't like. But smoke rising from the county courthouse or giant trash bags full of really light, really noisy material is sort of a giveaway.

Great post, Frank777.

 

Here in Arizona our ballots are paper and are scanned. To fill out your ballot, you draw a line to complete the arrow pointing to your preferred candidate (or Yes/No answer when it comes to propositions). Pretty straightforward.

 

I requested an early ballot and voted by mail a couple weeks ago.

Ours have always been like those old school scantron forms.

Our ballots are just like how Jazz described the ballots for Arizona. You complete the arrow with an ink pen and they scan it. I showed up today at 7:05 am and was finished by 7:20 am. There were good size crowds. I went ahead and voted for Gary Johnson because I wanted my vote to make a difference here in California and the second reason was because the California Republican Party was actually recommending yes votes on several tax measures. (Ridiculous.)

 

One thing that struck me as strange was the ballot size. They were gigantic. I think they were all printed on 11x17 paper with 20+ point type.

 

Several other Republicans did get my vote in other offices, I tried tried to give the Libertarians some help for the next election and hopefully the Republican party a big kick in the ass.

Edited by trumptman - 11/6/12 at 10:11am

trumpt, we've had our disagreements but I must give you major kudos for having the courage not only to vote, but to vote outside the Republican-Democrat paradigm. I realize you might have voted differently if you were in a swing state, but still, I have great respect for anyone who is willing to vote for principle even if it means voting alone.

If I were in a swing state, no doubt I would have voted for Romney. I will admit I even sweated the whole popular vote vs electoral college. That said, the California Republican Party is just ridiculous to be recommending yes votes on tax increases and the Democrats are 1000% worse because the state is in the toilet and all they ask for and vote for is more of the same.

 

I guess it'd be really nice if we could have a Gary Johnson for governor here in California.

 

But as he explains, he's in a different situation.  If he lived in my state, he would vote for Romney.  

 

Yes, but would you vote for Gary Johnson were you in his situation?

 

That's a good question.  I honestly don't know.  Probably not, because I know that Johnson couldn't win.  Romney may not have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning California, but Johnson doesn't even have that in terms of winning nationally.  

 

There you go. That's where you and trumpt are different.

Glad to see you're looking on the bright side Frank777.  I hope SDW, trump and MJ will show the same kind of humility in the coming months and not just blame Sandy for their defeat. Governor Christie I think showed the same kind of good spirit recently and it went noticed across party lines to the delight of many.

 

Here's what we don't need any more of in this forum in the coming years-  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkkwFt_6ac&feature=player_embedded

 

First, I don't have a horse in this race so I don't know what "defeat" you're implying.

 

Second, since you've grouped me with SDW and trumptman and presumed their "defeat" you apparently know the results of the election already. Please do tell! It will save a lot of people the time and trouble of actually having to vote.

 

Third, who or what will you blame if Obama loses? We've already seen the gearing up for voting machines and racism. Which will be your choice?

If you had posted polls showing Obama increasing his lead I might have believed you. 

 

I don't know the result! How can I know which way NC is going to go? ;-) The other states sure, they're a no brainer.  

 

If Obama loses I'll blame election fraud for sure! So will the SCOTUS. ;-)

 

Can you give me next week's winning lottery numbers?

Hang on for one moment.

 

Ok, hmmm.... 3,32,20,6 and the bonus number O.

 

 

You don't get it. I really don't care.

 

It's just been fun poking at the arrogant, smug and presumptuous left when the election was in the bag and then watching the panic and misdirection as it started to slip into a real election. As the left came undone over the possibility that their messiah might actually lose. It's been downright hilarious.

 

If I want Romney to win it's simply because I want Obama to lose, not because I want Romney to win. I don't care about that. To see the most smug and arrogant president in modern history have his ass handed to him would be a true pleasure to watch. But don't confuse that with being a Romney supporter. The next best thing would be an Obama win with a strengthen Republican Congress that dipshit has to actually work with instead of just sitting back and condescendingly declaring "Because I'm the President."

Not voting.

 

Yep.

The Winner of the Election: George W. Bush

 

Amen.

 

Yeah.

 

The two best hopes I have are the following:

 

1. An Obama win and enough Republican control of Congress to create a bit of gridlock.
2. Romney is lying and saying whatever he can to get elected but will do the right things once elected.

 

Those are both pretty dubious anyway. First the gridlock can't get good things done. Second if Romney's lying I don't know why he should be trusted and he'll immediately begin work on re-election which means not doing anything too radical.

If Romney wins Ohio, there will be serious questions of election fraud.  An UNVERIFIED last minute patch is being applied to the tabulation machines that enables a backdoor to change votes.  An Ohio judge rejected the request for an injunction against the UNVERIFIED patches.

 

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121106/11124920951/cause-concern-experimental-patches-applied-to-ohio-voting-machines-without-certification.shtml

 

 

 

 

Indiana flips to Romney. I think that was expected.

Bad news for the Republicans in the Senate races. My, oh my.

Exit polls.

Regardless of who wins, or "wins", there's no cause for celebration either way... the banksters, corporatists, plutocrats and oligarchs who own BOTH parties will win... and they will continue SCREWING us.

 

If we Americans weren't so goddamned lazy, addicted to television, fast food', convenience and superficial comfort, we would have done 1776 all over again.... several times by now, for essential periodic overhauls/servicing when things are broken. But it appears we collectively enjoy taking it where the sun refuses to shine.... over and over and over.

Apparently, Fox, NBC, CNN and CBS have called it for Obama. Dems maintain the Senate. Now let's get some fucking work done. Obama doesn't have to pander any more, and the Repubs are almost guaranteed the presidency and control of the Senate in 2016.

 

Get some work done? Apparently you don't understand this is what Obama calls work. Another four years, another $5 trillion dollars, tax increases of all manner, and the economy clearly getting ready to crash back into recession.

 

The best thing coming out of this, much like how Bush damaged the Republican brand with his second term, Obama will do incalculable damage to the Democratic brand.

 

I'm saying this as a guy watching Jerry Brown (likely) be unable to get a tax increase passed in California that is targeted exclusively for education.

 

There is nothing Democrats and Obama won't be able to claim ownership of four years from now. That alone might be worth it.

 

Cool.  Predictions.  You're good at those.

Didn't take long, did it?

LOL

 

 

Actual laughter was produced.

Looks like measure 30 will pass, thank God. I support prop 38 as well but unfortunately it hasn't a chance in hell the way it's worded.

It's likely my daughter will go to UC and I can't afford to pay the $30k per year that Republican "austerity" proponents are pushing on us. The UC system was created in California as a constitutionally guaranteed affordable higher education plan. The Cal State system was constitutionally guaranteed to be free!