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post #41 of 254
11/7/12 at 12:38am
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Hang on for one moment.

 

Ok, hmmm.... 3,32,20,6 and the bonus number O.

Still waiting on Florida 1biggrin.gif

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post #42 of 254
11/7/12 at 3:35am

Ripped to shreds! lol.gif

 

 

"The timing of the US election results always presents newspapers elsewhere with a bit of a conundrum when it comes to their print editions, trickling in as they do overnight. Elaborate strategies are worked out, special print runs sorted, and extra staff laid on through the night as they do their best to bring the most up to date news to their readers.

But not in Belgium! On behalf of journalists who've had to work US election night shifts everywhere, I hereby propose that Fleet Street adopt this policy (reported by the Associated Press) for the poll in 2016:

QuoteFaced with U.S. election results coming after printing deadlines, Belgian newspapers found novel ways round the problem.

Het Laastste Nieuws produced with two front pages Wednesday, asking readers to "pick your cover." One was headlined "It's Obama" while another, folded inside, read "It's Romney." Both had profiles of the winner and analysis.

By the time newspaper stands opened, readers knew the outcome and could remove the wrong one.

De Morgen cut its front page in half, with one side saying "Mitt Romney President" and the other "Barack Obama President." On the Romney side it said "Please turn quickly if Obama is the winner."

Le Soir's front page screamed "Obama," followed on the left with "Has Lost - read page 2" and on the right "Has Won - read page 3."

~ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9657592/US-Election-Barack-Obama-re-elected-as-President-of-the-United-States-live.html

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post #43 of 254
11/7/12 at 5:58am

Now waiting for the claim of a "mandate" from the Obamatrons. 1rolleyes.gif

 

Maybe this will teach the Republicans to put up a stronger candidate next time.

 

At least now we're past this silliness and can try and focus on what we can do to save this country. The first step is hoping there's enough opposition strength in Congress to block some or most of Obama's most stupid actions.

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post #44 of 254
11/7/12 at 6:02am

Early market reaction.

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post #45 of 254
11/7/12 at 6:11am
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Now waiting for the claim of a "mandate" from the Obamatrons. 1rolleyes.gif

 

 

There you go again with your full blown hypocrisy 1eek.gif -

 

 

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...The true PaulTards...The PaulTards...

 

Will you grow up please. You do yourself or your positions no favors by such name-calling. It just makes you look petty and immature. PaulTards? That's fucking junior high school stuff.

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of someone else’s money. 

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11/7/12 at 6:13am
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There you go again with your full blown hypocrisy 1eek.gif -

 

 

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Will you grow up please. You do yourself or your positions no favors by such name-calling. It just makes you look petty and immature. PaulTards? That's fucking junior high school stuff.

The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of someone else’s money. 

 

Fair point. I take it back.

 

Now waiting for the claim of a "mandate" from the Obama worshipers and apologists.


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post #47 of 254
11/7/12 at 6:19am

Now...onto more pressing questions...

 

What is the first stupid thing Obama will do in his 2nd term?

 

What is the first thing Obama blame on someone else in his 2nd term?

 

What is the first thing Obama does that his apologists will excuse in his 2nd term?

 

What is the first thing that Obama will do that his supporters will ignore because he did it, but would go nuts if a Republican did it?

 

These are the questions.

 

Also...thankfully Congress is still divided, but will it be enough. Is there enough opposition strength to prevent Obama from driving the country off the "fiscal cliff?"

 

These questions and more...

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post #48 of 254
11/7/12 at 6:27am
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LOL

So, Jerry Brown was able to get a tax increase passed for education.  This is too fucking funny.

 

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post #49 of 254
11/7/12 at 7:17am

The politics of hope and denial

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11/7/12 at 7:52am
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At least now we're past this silliness and can try and focus on what we can do to save this country. The first step is hoping there's enough opposition strength in Congress to block some or most of Obama's most stupid actions.

Yeah, four more years of grid lock. Your guys will do anything to make sure nothing can get passed. Then in 2016 you'll say see Obama is a failed president nothing that he said he wanted to do got accomplished.

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post #51 of 254
11/7/12 at 7:55am
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Yeah, four more years of grid lock.

 

Let's hope. Gridlock is better than doing stupid things.

 

 

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Your guys will do anything to make sure nothing can get passed.

 

My guys? They aren't my guys. 1rolleyes.gif

 

 

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Then in 2016 you'll say see Obama is a failed president nothing that he said he wanted to do got accomplished.

 

Obama is already a failed president. I seriously doubt the next 4 years will change that.

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post #52 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:07am

Stocks plunge.

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11/7/12 at 8:12am
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Plunge is a bit strong.

 

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post #54 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:23am

Take it up with USA Today (or the Detroit Free Press or the L.A. Times or Forbes.)

 

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post #55 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:24am

Libertarians hate real life.

 

Anywho:

 

 

700

 

Curse you Obama!

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post #56 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:25am
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Libertarians hate real life.

 

And leftists deny it.

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post #57 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:38am

A nation in decline?

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post #58 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:41am
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Libertarians hate real life.

 

Libertarians love liberty, which is being trampled in real life.

Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem.

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post #59 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:41am

You are one bitter dude.  

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post #60 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:52am
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You are one bitter dude.  

 

It's hard not to be bitter when your country just voted to destroy itself.  

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post #61 of 254
11/7/12 at 8:56am
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You are one bitter dude.  

 

Who?

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11/7/12 at 9:55am
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It's hard not to be bitter when your country just voted to destroy itself.  

Yes, that's clearly what it did.  

 

Just to help you (and everyone who reads your posts) out:

 

 

 

Quote:
  1. Denial — "I feel fine."; "This can't be happening, not to me."
    Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual. This feeling is generally replaced with heightened awareness of possessions and individuals that will be left behind after death. Denial can be conscious or unconscious refusal to accept facts, information, or the reality of the situation. Denial is a defense mechanism and some people can become locked in this stage.
  2. Anger — "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"
    Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Anger can manifest itself in different ways. People can be angry with themselves, or with others, and especially those who are close to them. It is important to remain detached and nonjudgmental when dealing with a person experiencing anger from grief.
  3. Bargaining — "I'll do anything for a few more years."; "I will give my life savings if..."
    The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay death. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand I will die, but if I could just do something to buy more time..." People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?.." when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it's a matter of life or death.
  4. Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?"
    During the fourth stage, the dying person begins to understand the certainty of death. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and grieving. This process allows the dying person to disconnect from things of love and affection. It is not recommended to attempt to cheer up an individual who is in this stage. It is an important time for grieving that must be processed. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the 'aftermath'. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It's natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation.
  5. Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
    In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with their mortality, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. This stage varies according to the person's situation. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief.

 

Very firmly in stage 1 so far.

 

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post #63 of 254
11/7/12 at 10:08am
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Yes, that's clearly what it did.  

 

Just to help you (and everyone who reads your posts) out:

 

 

 

 

Very firmly in stage 1 so far.

 

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post #64 of 254
11/7/12 at 10:11am
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You are one bitter dude.  

 

Yes, who?

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post #65 of 254
11/7/12 at 10:19am

The leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons) issued the following statement on the outcome of the election:

 

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We congratulate President Obama on winning a second term as President of the United States.
 
After a long campaign, this is now a time for Americans to come together. It is a long tradition among Latter-day Saints to pray for our national leaders in our personal prayers and in our congregations. We invite Americans everywhere, whatever their political persuasion, to pray for the President, for his administration and the new Congress as they lead us through difficult and turbulent times. May our national leaders reflect the best in wisdom and judgment as they fulfill the great trust afforded to them by the American people.
 
We also commend Governor Romney for engaging at the highest level of our democratic process, which, by its nature, demands so much of those who offer themselves for public service. We wish him and his family every success in their future endeavors.

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post #66 of 254
11/7/12 at 10:36am
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It's hard not to be bitter when your country just voted to destroy itself.  

 

The country voted to destroy itself in 2000, or more accurately, the USSC said to the American people and Florida voters "**** you", and decided the matter for themselves.

 

Look what we lost as a result of the Bush years.... and now Obama is continuing that horrendous legacy. None of the current set of Mussolini wannabes give a flying **** about liberty, regardless of what the corporate weasel-media lackeys shout from TV and radio.

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post #67 of 254
11/7/12 at 10:42am
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The U.S. survived 8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Bush. While the country itself will survive another 8 years of Obama's incompetence, it is hard not to surmise that America's best days are behind it. A slim majority of americans embraced the Abortion President, and a party establishment that believes that Planned Parenthood is something to be celebrated, and also believe that marriage is just a piece of government-issued paper.

 

A nation's morality is reflected in its priorities and plans.

While the economy may improve in the short term, long term American decline seems unavoidable.

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post #68 of 254
11/7/12 at 10:49am
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The U.S. survived 8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Bush. While the country itself will survive another 8 years of Obama's incompetence, it is hard not to surmise that America's best days are behind it. A slim majority of americans embraced the Abortion President, and a party establishment that believes that Planned Parenthood is something to be celebrated, and also believe that marriage is just a piece of government-issued paper.

 

A nation's morality is reflected in its priorities and plans.

While the economy may improve in the short term, long term American decline seems unavoidable.

8 more years? We're boned.1hmm.gif

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post #69 of 254
11/7/12 at 12:10pm
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Okay, 4 more years, bringing the total to 8. You know that's what I meant.  1smile.gif

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post #70 of 254
11/7/12 at 12:12pm
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Okay, 4 more years, bringing the total to 8. You know that's what I meant.  1smile.gif

 

Haven't you heard? Obama will have single-handedly turned things around so dramatically by the end of his second term that the masses will be begging and pleading for Obama to serve a third term. 1wink.gif

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11/7/12 at 12:18pm
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It's hard not to be bitter when your country just voted to destroy itself.  

Yes, that's clearly what it did.  

 

Just to help you (and everyone who reads your posts) out:

 

 

 

Quote:
  1. Denial — "I feel fine."; "This can't be happening, not to me."
    Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the individual. This feeling is generally replaced with heightened awareness of possessions and individuals that will be left behind after death. Denial can be conscious or unconscious refusal to accept facts, information, or the reality of the situation. Denial is a defense mechanism and some people can become locked in this stage.
  2. Anger — "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"
    Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Anger can manifest itself in different ways. People can be angry with themselves, or with others, and especially those who are close to them. It is important to remain detached and nonjudgmental when dealing with a person experiencing anger from grief.
  3. Bargaining — "I'll do anything for a few more years."; "I will give my life savings if..."
    The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow postpone or delay death. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Psychologically, the individual is saying, "I understand I will die, but if I could just do something to buy more time..." People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?.." when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it's a matter of life or death.
  4. Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?"
    During the fourth stage, the dying person begins to understand the certainty of death. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and grieving. This process allows the dying person to disconnect from things of love and affection. It is not recommended to attempt to cheer up an individual who is in this stage. It is an important time for grieving that must be processed. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the 'aftermath'. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It's natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation.
  5. Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
    In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with their mortality, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. This stage varies according to the person's situation. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief.

 

Very firmly in stage 1 so far.

 

 

I'd put the U.S. economy firmly at the end of stage three (especially after borrowing $5 trillion more dollars.)

 

I'd expect stage four to start January of 2013.

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post #72 of 254
11/7/12 at 12:20pm
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Haven't you heard? Obama will have single-handedly turned things around so dramatically by the end of his second term that the masses will be begging and pleading for Obama to serve a third term. 1wink.gif

 

I assume Frank just meant that the next 4 years will just seem like 8 years. 1wink.gif lol.gif

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11/7/12 at 12:21pm
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I assume Frank just meant that the next 4 years will just seem like 8 years. 1wink.gif lol.gif

 

lol.gif Indeed.

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11/7/12 at 1:38pm
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I assume Frank just meant that the next 4 years will just seem like 8 years. 1wink.gif lol.gif

 

lol.gif Indeed.

Now you know how we felt about Bush.1wink.gif

 

That felt like 12 years....of stupidity.

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11/7/12 at 2:40pm
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It looks like you've made it to Stage Two.

 

That is excellent.

 

Progress!

 

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11/7/12 at 2:44pm
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The leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons) issued the following statement on the outcome of the election:

 

Mormons do know how to market themselves and Lie for the Lord.  I hope they are sincere.  We'll see.  Actions speak louder than words--and prayers are literally the most useless things anyone can give.

 

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post #77 of 254
11/8/12 at 12:08am

Finally watched both speeches from election day.  The difference could not have been more stark.

 

One had no presidential material, one did.  Fortunately, the latter won.

 

Found this:

 

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/romneys_concession_speech_was_not_gracious/

 

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11/8/12 at 3:33am

Mittens didn't have a concession speech ready.  Obama did.

 

The GOP party was a 5-star event indeed, but many attendees left soon after the results were in, not bothering to wait for Mittens' speech.  Classy people.

 

Mittens had a homepage ready in case he was elected.  A draft can be seen here:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mitt-romney-transition-website_n_2090531.html

 

One paper is suggesting that Mittens could get a cabinet position with the Obama administration when he meets with Obama at the WH (Obama said he would invite him).  Some advisors to Mittens said that he is more interested in spending time with his family than working with Obama.  Yep.  The guy who wanted to be president.

 

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You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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11/8/12 at 4:19am
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Mittens didn't have a concession speech ready.  Obama did.

 

The GOP party was a 5-star event indeed, but many attendees left soon after the results were in, not bothering to wait for Mittens' speech.  Classy people.

 

Mittens had a homepage ready in case he was elected.  A draft can be seen here:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mitt-romney-transition-website_n_2090531.html

 

One paper is suggesting that Mittens could get a cabinet position with the Obama administration when he meets with Obama at the WH (Obama said he would invite him).  Some advisors to Mittens said that he is more interested in spending time with his family than working with Obama.  Yep.  The guy who wanted to be president.

 

Really what would an Obama white house let Romeny do? I suspect Daley left because he realized how anti-business the Obama WH is.

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11/8/12 at 4:21am
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

Finally watched both speeches from election day.  The difference could not have been more stark.

 

One had no presidential material, one did.  Fortunately, the latter won.

 

Found this:

 

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/romneys_concession_speech_was_not_gracious/

One may have "presidential material" but is not himself presidential material.

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