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Microsoft Surface screen falls short of Retina iPad, but outperforms iPad 2

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A head-to-head comparison of the Surface display with competing tablets has found Microsoft's tablet beats out similarly equipped screens, but can't take down the Retina display on Apple's 9.7-inch iPad.

Raymond Soneira of DisplayMate published his tablet display shootout on Monday comparing the Microsoft Surface RT to competing devices, including Apple's iPad with Retina display and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. His tests found that the Surface display gets Microsoft's product line off to a "great start."

"In particular, on-screen text is significantly sharper, it has a better factory display calibration, and also significantly lower reflectance than the iPad 2 and all full-size 1280x800 Android tablets," Soneira said. "But it is not as sharp as the iPad 3 or 4, nor does it have their large full color gamut."

The Surface has a screen resolution of 1,366 by 768 pixels. The relatively low resolution screen, especially compared with Apple's iPad, has been the subject of considerable focus as Microsoft has entered the tablet market.

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One engineer with the Redmond, Wash., software giant argued last month that the Surface display outperforms Apple's iPad Retina display due to the company's "ClearType" display technology. Steve Bathiche said ClearType maximizes the "perceived resolution" of the Surface screen by cutting down on reflections, among other improvements.

Soneira's tests found that the Surface RT does in fact have the lowest screen reflectance of any tablet tested. He found that the third-generation iPad with Retina display reflects 33 percent more ambient light than the Surface RT, while the Galaxy Tab 10.1 reflects 41 percent more light.

But while the Surface cuts down on reflections, it can't compete with higher resolution tablets in terms of color gamut. The Surface was found to have a 57 percent smaller color gamut than Apple's latest iPad.

But while the Surface can't compete with the iPad's Retina display, Soneira did concluded that Microsoft's tablet has a display superior to the iPad 2. That device, which sells for $399, has a screen resolution of 1,024 by 768 pixels.

"The Surface RT outperforms the display on the iPad 2 across the board except for the color gamut," Soneira said. "The Surface RT is comparable or better than the iPad 3 in all categories except two: screen resolution and color gamut."

In all, Soneira found the iPad Retina display beat out the competition in viewing tests, though its major weakness was found to be a higher reflectance than the Microsoft Surface. The iPad Retina display was given a score of "A" while the Surface earned an "A-" and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 was graded with a "B+."
post #2 of 26

None of this really matters. 

 

DOA

 

The reality:

 

http://www.neowin.net/news/steve-ballmer-first-surface-sales-are-modest-hypes-windows-8-pro-version

 

The back-pedalling:

 

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-ballmers-modest-surface-quote-meant-approach-not-sales

post #3 of 26
Yeah, but...but...you don't need a higher ppi with the ugly Lego block tiles of Windows 8!
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"It's all in the software, dummy"
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Wow, cutting edge information
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post #6 of 26
The Surface looks like it works pretty well, until it doesn't:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-gAAKxjx1o
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We needed a study to find much higher resolution is better than the crappy ol 1366 x 768?? Stop, you're killing me.

 

I want to see Nexus 10 vs iPad 3/4 screen comparisons 

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post #8 of 26
No doubt, Microsoft is proud of the fact that its tablet out-performs the iPAD 2. But it's a bit like the Lada car makers being proud of the fact that their car out-performs the Ford model T.....
post #9 of 26
It out performs the iPad 2. Is this supposed to impress people?
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That's OK.  The ZunePad is only going to be used by business types who can't get any work done with Apple's frivolous iPad.  They don't need a high-quality display to do Microsoft Word and Excel.  Those IT guys shouldn't be watching any movies on their ZunePads.

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A head-to-head comparison of the Surface display with competing tablets has found Microsoft's tablet beats out similarly equipped screens, but can't take down the Retina display on Apple's 9.7-inch iPad.

But it goes "click"...1rolleyes.gif

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Microsoft's Surface sales are now up into the "tens of dozens" per month...! 

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Yeah, but...but...you don't need a higher ppi with the ugly Lego block tiles of Windows 8!

It's for all the people that grew up with XBoxes, they want to make sure the kids feel comfortable. 

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It out performs the iPad 2. Is this supposed to impress people?

Well, you know those Windows users.  They get impressed because some Windows Ultrabooks are coming with Thunderbolt ports.  And they actually have a Microsoft name on an actual tablet because they aren't allowed to buy what they wanted to buy, which were iPads.  What's funny is that companies like HP, Dell, Microsoft are just making products for themselves with their own name on it. It makes them feel like they have an actual tablet so they can act cool.

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What's funny is how much room is wasted in the screen. First there is the word Start in a large font so the person across the room can see it.  There is about 50% of the screen are for those child-like tiles.  There is a lot of that screen that's not being used.

I'm surprised all of the Windows 7 and XP users didn't blast Microsoft for this waste of a GUI.

post #16 of 26

The surface is one of these...

 

 

Soon to be added to this pile of failures...

The headline to this story has to compare Surface to an iPad 2 to make it look good! What about the currant generation iPad 4? By the time Surface Pro comes out, there will be an iPad 5 that will trump it.


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I am a stern Apple supporter, but I like the windows 8 Pro operating system and give credit to MS for trying something different. I must say though that the operating system works much better on my iMac then my Dell XPS 15 laptop (laptop supposed to have much faster intel processor).

MS have destroyed a good software with crappy hardware. Come on people WHY HAVE A KEYBOARD???, it makes the tablet lot heavier and people want light manageable tablet to put in their bag.

Not sure what MS team are smoking and which focus groups have been used to provide customer feedback, but this tablet is a massive FAIL. Before the MS supporters shoot me down, If it was a success, MS would be shouting from rooftops with concern to sales and taking market share from Apple. Please do not call this a 'soft' opening, since when iPad was launched, BOOM it was a success.

As for Surface Pro, it is not competing with iPad, but with ultrabooks in that price range and if I am going to spend that kind of money, I will go after 13-15" screen instead of 10".

Majority of consumers only surf the web, play games, read e-mail and are looking for cheap quality apps to support their lifestyle.
post #18 of 26
the If they give an "A" to the iPad 4, then I really think an "A-" for the Surface is generous. I got a chance to play around with both for the first time the other day (there's a Microsoft store and an Apple store at my local mall).

I think the Surface is a pretty interesting device. Its pretty compelling as a super-ultra portable laptop, but definitely seemed uncomfortable as a tablet. I don't see myself purchasing one, but I enjoyed playing around with it for the time I had it.

I thought the screen looked nice on the Surface, but I could clearly see pixels on text. I really felt that the iPad 4 screen was an order of magnitude better than the Surface's.

With that said, the Surface's screen was obviously better than the iPad mini's.
post #19 of 26

Keep in mind everyone that Microsoft has yet to release the Surface pro which comes with a resolution of 1920x1080 for the same screen size which at 18 inches you won't be able to see individual pixels.

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Microsoft's Surface sales are now up into the "tens of dozens" per month...! 

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Keep in mind everyone that Microsoft has yet to release the Surface pro which comes with a resolution of 1920x1080 for the same screen size which at 18 inches you won't be able to see individual pixels.

... and if the Surface POS is the same price as the iPad 4, the Surface PRO will cost as much as an iMac, be much heavier, thicker, and need an extension cord to operate. It is unknown at this time whether you can rig it with wheels and use it to skateboard on.

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post #22 of 26
Purchased the Surface RT over the weekend. Very nice tablet. The expandability is great. Using an Apple Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with it. Both work perfectly.

Don't understand all the negative comments.

Also, I own many gadgets so I do have experience with quite a few of them.
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Keep in mind everyone that Microsoft has yet to release the Surface pro which comes with a resolution of 1920x1080 for the same screen size which at 18 inches you won't be able to see individual pixels.

 

So... just ignore Surface RT, which was the topic of this story?

 

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It out performs the iPad 2. Is this supposed to impress people?

 

Microsoft will take any victory.

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Nexus 7 is great. iPad 4 is great too. I don't like iPad Mini, but I guess I'll get the Retina model once it comes out. Am I tech-addicted?

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So... just ignore Surface RT, which was the topic of this story?

 

 

Microsoft will take any victory.

No you don't need to ignore the Surface RT just pointing out that the Surface Pro essentially has a retina display at 18 inches view distance in other words the RT is not the flagship surface so it doesn't really make much sense to take the flagship ipad and compare it the Surface RT which is not the flagship.

 

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... and if the Surface POS is the same price as the iPad 4, the Surface PRO will cost as much as an iMac, be much heavier, thicker, and need an extension cord to operate. It is unknown at this time whether you can rig it with wheels and use it to skateboard on.

Ah the Surface RT is not a POS and yes it is the same price but there are different for one it has double the capacity.  Why don't you actually use one?

 

The Surface Pro will most likely be around the price of a MBA.  Ya the Surface pro needs an extension cord to operate it...........  What is your problem?

 

So... just ignore Surface RT, which was the topic of this story?

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It is unknown at this time whether you can rig it with wheels and use it to skateboard on.

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