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Apple's iMessage, as well as other data-based messaging apps, reportedly caused the first drop in U.S. text messaging in years, and the downward trend may continue as more wireless subscribers switch to smartphones.

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Mobile analyst Chetan Sharma on Monday published a report saying that texting was down in the third quarter of 2012, with users sending 678 texts per month, down from 696 texts per month for previous quarter.

As noted by The New York Times, the decline is small but noteworthy as the amount of SMS text messages has seen continuous growth up to this point. The change puts the U.S. in line with most western markets, which have experienced texting revenue declines as more subscribers have switched to data-based messaging.

Unlike texts, which usually come bundled with cellular service subscriptions, apps like Apple's iMessage and Facebook's Messenger use data, which can amount to considerably less cost due depending on the data plan. For example, smartphone users who have unlimited data can basically do away with texting completely as long as the people they are messaging have compatible data-based apps.

While Sharma said it's too early to estimate whether the texting market will continue the decline for U.S. carriers, he noted that data-based messaging has slowly been replacing conventional messaging as the number of smartphone users rises.

The possible move away from texts doesn't necessarily mean a decline in earnings for U.S. telecoms, however, as Sharma noted that of the top three carriers, some 45 percent of revenue per customer is made from mobile data accounts. For example, AT&T in July announced its shared data plans that lock in subscribers to tiered data allotments ranging from 1GB for $40 per month, to 20GB for $200 a month, not including the per-smartphone fee which itself costs $30 to $45.
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Do any major carriers, besides AT&T, still charge for SMS on phone plans?

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Surely the carries don't recoup any lost revenue with some BS charge or fee. 

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Will they integrate iMessage more seamlessly into the phone function? Why not have an onscreen button to compose texts, or simply speak your message and Siri takes over?

Clean, efficient speech-to-text-to-speech is the way to go.

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Do any major carriers, besides AT&T, still charge for SMS on phone plans?


Yup. I'm limited to 500 TXTs/month on mine on Verizon (which I pay a monthly rate for).... ...after which a pricey surcharge/TXT kicks in.  (FYI, this is on my dumb phone plan - too damn much net in my life already. Tho' I'm finally likely to cave soon.)

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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!
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Will they integrate iMessage more seamlessly into the phone function? Why not have an onscreen button to compose texts, or simply speak your message and Siri takes over?
Clean, efficient speech-to-text-to-speech is the way to go.

You mean like tap the microphone button then speak what you want converted?

Or how about, "Send Larry a text I will meet you at the game at 5"

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I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times.

You do realize that 1,000 txts a day is one txt every 86 [corrected] seconds for 24 hours straight?


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There's this really great hidden feature on most of today's smartphones that many don't know about called Speak-to-Talk. It's actually been a standard feature on most phones for quite a while now because the FCC won't let you brand your device as a 'phone' if it does not include this feature.
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Yup. I'm limited to 500 TXTs/month on mine on Verizon (which I pay a monthly rate for).... ...after which a pricey surcharge/TXT kicks in.  (FYI, this is on my dumb phone plan - too damn much net in my life already. Tho' I'm finally likely to cave soon.)

Interesting. The only plans I saw when signing up for my iPhone 5 on Verizon back in September were unlimited voice and SMS. Once iOS 5 came out, to wit iMessages, I completely dropped SMS from my AT&T plan and vowed never to pay for it again. Technically I'm paying for it with my Verizon plan but I'm not actively paying a separate fee for it. if I had to do that again I'd call the carrier and have it completely removed again.

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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!

There are other things people can do with their time. I have a 200 text plan and I've exceeded it once.

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You do realize that 1,000 txts a day is one txt every 8.6 seconds for 24 hours straight?

Every 86 seconds by my calculations. Better, but still a stunning number.
Edited by JeffDM - 11/12/12 at 4:23pm
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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!

There are other things people can do with their time. I have a 200 text plan and I've exceeded it once.
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You do realize that 1,000 txts a day is one txt every 8.6 seconds for 24 hours straight?

Every 86 seconds by my calculations. Better, but still a stunning number.

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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!

 

I do zero texts: I refuse to pay the absurd cost, whether it be of a plan that includes texts, or per message.

 

What do I do instead? I use the fance new voice support that phones have :p And email.

 

(And yes, maybe twice a month, someone texts me for a legitimate reason and I’m fine with the 20 cents (or free if iMessage). But the need for it is very rare in my case.)

 

 


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Will they integrate iMessage more seamlessly into the phone function? Why not have an onscreen button to compose texts, or simply speak your message and Siri takes over?
Clean, efficient speech-to-text-to-speech is the way to go.
 

There’s a big “Send Message” button in almost all sections of the phone app: in Favorites, in Recents, in Contacts, and even in Voicemail. Just choose the contact and find that button at the bottom. (You can send emails and get map directions too.)

 

And text-to-speech always works for texting too. Siri will fire off an SMS without even launching the Messages app.

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Every 86 seconds by my calculations. Better, but still a stunning number.

oops! yes

We have unlimited txt on our phones which we should probably change since we are on iMessage now.

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I will go days without even touching my phone. I don't text, I just don't - a phone is for voice communication. If I wanted to "text chat" I would use AIM on my computer, a physical keyboard is much better to type on than a little touchscreen phone display with a fake digital keyboard.

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Little OT.

It's incredible to see how much money you guys pay for cellular data in the US.

Here in Barcelona (Catalonia - Europe) I pay 9€ per 1GB and all the calls for 0.01€ per minute
So, basically I end up paying about 15/18€ a month counting data, calls and VAT, using my iPhone 5 constantly in 3G.

Here some examples:

http://www.pepephone.com/tarifas/?xsid=XSIDB27VZWIB1K36W8C96RPYJBF0NV5C

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Edited by Cosimo - 11/12/12 at 4:58pm
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All I do is text/data, If I could get a plan with no bundled minutes, just pay-as-you-go, I'd do it. 

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I'm reading the tea leaves and I see AT&T charging users to use iMessage on their iDevices. AT&T is one of the only companies that, through their actions, show complete disdain for their customers. 

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All I do is text/data, If I could get a plan with no bundled minutes, just pay-as-you-go, I'd do it. 

 

Technically on Verizon you can take your LTE iPad SIM once it's activated and move it to a phone, it works, people have done it. All calls will instantly fail though. May not be a good idea in an emergency. 

 

 

I like iMessage as an SMS replacement when I can, but notifications are a big gripe. Why when I use my mac for iMessage is my phone's notifications still going off nearly every time. It just drains the battery in a hurry. I must admit, the way Google handles Talk and staying with only the active device is much better. 

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When I return to the US in the spring I refuse to pay AT&T $20 for texting. Most of my friends have iPhones and if not there's Kakao and What's App that are just fine.
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I'm reading the tea leaves and I see AT&T charging users to use iMessage on their iDevices. AT&T is one of the only companies that, through their actions, show complete disdain for their customers. 

 

"AT&T will offer [iMessage] over Cellular as an added benefit of our new Mobile Share data plans, which were created to meet customers’ growing data needs at a great value. With Mobile Share, the more data you use, the more you save. [iMessage] will continue to be available over Wi-Fi for all our customers."

 

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I must be a freak, because I send less than 10 texts per month.
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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!

 

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You do realize that 1,000 txts a day is one txt every 86 [corrected] seconds for 24 hours straight?


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Little OT.
It's incredible to see how much money you guys pay for cellular data in the US.
Here in Barcelona (Catalonia - Europe) I pay 9€ per 1GB and all the calls for 0.01€ per minute
So, basically I end up paying about 15/18€ a month counting data, calls and VAT, using my iPhone 5 constantly in 3G.
Here some examples:
http://www.pepephone.com/tarifas/?xsid=XSIDB27VZWIB1K36W8C96RPYJBF0NV5C
http://tuenti.com/movil

Amazing!

 

Now, drive (or take a train, Euro) 500 miles north.  How much does it cost to text now?  Now train 500 miles west from there.  How much does it cost now?  And 500 miles back south?  Now how much?  500 miles back east and you're back home.  Something tells me that while I've been still paying that same (admittedly high) rate on my 2000 mile trip around the USA, you've been paying something quite higher on your road trip.

 

See how these things work?  Nothing's free.

 

I can't imagine the riot if my mobile company tried to tell me I had to stay in an area the size of tiny Spain or I'd have to pay roaming fees.

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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!

 

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Will they integrate iMessage more seamlessly into the phone function? Why not have an onscreen button to compose texts, or simply speak your message and Siri takes over?
Clean, efficient speech-to-text-to-speech is the way to go.

 

You know you can do this right? I've had Siri read me an SMS then compose and send a reply using nothing but voice and the included headphones.

 

I purposefully don't use iMessage. Data is the primary bottleneck.  No penalty to receive an SMS but every received iMessage would charge me data. I get unlimited free text and picture messages on my plan. SMS's get delivered even if this recipient doesn't have an active data connection and there is only one local carrier that doesn't struggle with bandwidth.

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Amazing!

Now, drive (or take a train, Euro) 500 miles north.  How much does it cost to text now?  Now train 500 miles west from there.  How much does it cost now?  And 500 miles back south?  Now how much?  500 miles back east and you're back home.  

Amazing, indeed: You can drive 500 miles north of Barcelona Spain. But if you try to drive (or take a train) 500 miles west of that point, you're going to get very wet.
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NO more text, No more Minutes. Its all about DATA. As a matter of fact they are earning much more on selling data package price plan then Phone min and SMS.
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Amazing, indeed: You can drive 500 miles north of Barcelona Spain. But if you try to drive (or take a train) 500 miles west of that point, you're going to get very wet.

In my head I was saying east... even thinking Russia.  But the fingers didn't obey.

 

Point remains.  Apples to oranges.

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Little OT.
It's incredible to see how much money you guys pay for cellular data in the US.
Here in Barcelona (Catalonia - Europe) I pay 9€ per 1GB and all the calls for 0.01€ per minute
So, basically I end up paying about 15/18€ a month counting data, calls and VAT, using my iPhone 5 constantly in 3G.
Here some examples:
http://www.pepephone.com/tarifas/?xsid=XSIDB27VZWIB1K36W8C96RPYJBF0NV5C
http://tuenti.com/movil

Here in the USA, the cost of many, many things is exploitative. AT&T’s messaging plans are among the most ludicrously inflated forms of extortion.

 

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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!

How do you do up to 16000 text in a month, 7000 is higher than most, 3000 is upper average, 2000 is believeable yet 1000 is just a few above average yet 700 average, 500 not yet average 300 is what needs to be average, 100 is just a busy month for someone who doesn't text and less than 30 is other people sending text.

Yet these including all (messaging services) my average lifespan 0.00000000000001 my friends about 10 close friends 2, so this really excludes us yet its ahead.

So y'all really don't have life's at 16000 (100s a day) however even at 3000 (100 a day is high) ,700 is probably since not counting iMessage or other services so Probably a little more than1000 so it's in the 30s a day which at least have life's. and 300a a month which makes sense is 10 a day which is the only needed. With that it want charge to phone bill that much both ways. I still will probably be in average in January. But what about actual calls.
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Now if they'd just do something about the godawful, bug-infested mess that is Messages for OS X.

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How do you do up to 16000 text in a month, 7000 is higher than most, 3000 is upper average, 2000 is believeable yet 1000 is just a few above average yet 700 average, 500 not yet average 300 is what needs to be average, 100 is just a busy month for someone who doesn't text and less than 30 is other people sending text.
Yet these including all (messaging services) my average lifespan 0.00000000000001 my friends about 10 close friends 2, so this really excludes us yet its ahead.
So y'all really don't have life's at 16000 (100s a day) however even at 3000 (100 a day is high) ,700 is probably since not counting iMessage or other services so Probably a little more than1000 so it's in the 30s a day which at least have life's. and 300a a month which makes sense is 10 a day which is the only needed. With that it want charge to phone bill that much both ways. I still will probably be in average in January. But what about actual calls.

Could he be a blogger with restricted access to the intewebz?

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Less than 700 texts?! I send 7,000 on a low month! I hit 16,000 in June. I literally did more than 1,000 in a day a few times. How can you only do like 700 texts?!


This ability is something you shouldn't advertise.  Not only is its truthfulness highly questionable, even if you are able to accomplish half that amount you really have need of face-to-face social skills.

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There is a big issue with imessage which needs resolving. Once Apple have established your contact has imessage your iphone will send an imessage if you are in a data zone. If they are not, say for example roaming and have data off then they don't get the message until back in a data zone. I discovered this when a friend was away (didn't know he was) and he didn't get my messages until he returned to the UK. Hard one to fix too!
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I like iMessage - at least it keeps trying to send a message if it can't get through ( I think ).

 

Now, standard SMS on an iPhone has one major flaw in my opinion - unlike all other dumb phones ( and even my sh1tty Barcelona Android 2.2 work phone ) it does not keep trying to send the message if it fails first time due to lack of signal - the others all retry until it's sent.

I live in an area of bad signal and sometimes even with 1 bar the standard SMS may not send from the iphone, but unless you leave the Message app open you don't know it didn't go! 

 

I think this is pretty rubbish for a 'smart' phone.

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There is a big issue with imessage which needs resolving. Once Apple have established your contact has imessage your iphone will send an imessage if you are in a data zone. If they are not, say for example roaming and have data off then they don't get the message until back in a data zone. I discovered this when a friend was away (didn't know he was) and he didn't get my messages until he returned to the UK. Hard one to fix too!

For me, Messages seems to fall back to SMS if there isn't a detected data route to the recipient.
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I like iMessage - at least it keeps trying to send a message if it can't get through ( I think ).

 

Now, standard SMS on an iPhone has one major flaw in my opinion - unlike all other dumb phones ( and even my sh1tty Barcelona Android 2.2 work phone ) it does not keep trying to send the message if it fails first time due to lack of signal - the others all retry until it's sent.

I live in an area of bad signal and sometimes even with 1 bar the standard SMS may not send from the iphone, but unless you leave the Message app open you don't know it didn't go! 

 

I think this is pretty rubbish for a 'smart' phone.

Really?  I get an exclamation mark on my messages app if my regular text doesn't go through...

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You do realize that 1,000 txts a day is one txt every 86 [corrected] seconds for 24 hours straight?

 

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