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I bet you have a refrigerator full of Hostess Twinkies too.
Survey Says: 7% (not 10%) will migrate to OSX or iOS
But your premise otherwise works... that's a shit-ton of users. The projection is about 70 million new Apple iDevices & iComputers in the next 6 weeks.
The irony is so thick you could stick a spoon in it.
You're living in la-la land.
MS has far greater market penetration than Apple does, and in the most important ways:
• Xbox 360. It isn't just a game console and has found its way into more homes than iOS devices. More iOS devices have been sold in total, but a lot of those have been thrown away and people buy more than one. They also aren't connected to TVs.
• Microsoft doesn't treat pro customers like sh*t. Microsoft supports enterprise, government, and professionals. Apple has become focused on consumer products to the point of complete abandonment of all others. It's been making money for them in the short term, but consumers are the most fickle and will drop iOS in a heartbeat when something cheaper comes along that's almost as good. That could easily happen.
People give MS a lot of crap as I often do for their crap products and lack of vision, but MS is very good at providing solutions and extracting revenue. Apple's position, in my opinion, is far more tenuous. My division here is where they make money:
Windows and Windows Live
Operating Income: $12,281,000,000
Business (Office, Exchange, SharePoint)
Operating income: $14,124,000,000
Server and Tools (Windows Server, Microsoft SQL, Visual Studio)
Operating Income: $6,608,000,000
Entertainment and Devices (XBox 360/LIVE, Windows Phone)
Operating income: $1,324,000,000
Online Services (Bing, MSN, Hotmail)
Operating income: $-2,557,000,000
As for Windows, Microsoft already won the desktop wars decades ago. Win95 came, Apple queefed.
Apple seems to have thrown in the towel in terms of enterprise, and they haven't released a desktop in how long? The war being fought for now is the changing media/entertainment business model. Apple is no doubt working on their next AppleTV failure while Microsoft is looking forward to trouncing the market with Xbox 720.
The fact was though, there were even then, people who not only *could* do everything with the mouse and the GUI, they actually preferred it, and they could get things done just as fast. those people eventually grew to be more numerous than the CLI guys
This is because the number of people who truly "get" the new form factor is still low (most are probably still kids right now) but as before, there are people who don't need or ever want an external keyboard or mouse and can get things done just as fast using only touch.
Your analogy has one faulty piece of reasoning. The mouse pointer is extremely accurate down to the exact pixel. A finger as a pointer is thousands of times less accurate. Touch users can get things done as long as it does not require precision pointing such as bezier curve paths or photoshop like pixel level editing. Even selecting text and copy/paste is problematic at times. Don't kid yourself, touch users will NEVER get the precision or proficiency of a mouse. You can actually draw bezier curves better with a text editor than you can with touch. SVG can be completely controlled with text. Of course you can't save it anywhere on an iDevice but that is different problem.
what do they expect? The Zune was a complete failure. What do they do? They take the horrid, unusable UI from the Zune and jam it on their cell phone OS, Windows Phone. Now Windows Phone is a complete and total failure due to a fugly,unsuable OS which no one likes except all the paid shills. So what do they do? They cram the twice failed horridly unsuable UI on their Window OS to force it onto their illegally obtained desktop monopoly. Now it is failing. What is the common denominator here?
Except that you still could either run existing Mac apps in Classic mode, or reboot into OS 9 if a specific application didn't play nicely.
I clearly remember testing 10.0 and able to do some work in 10.1 while using OS 9 for most of it, and being mostly switched away from OS 9 by 10.2. (We were a Mac sea in a very large Unix shop.)
In retrospect, it was a fairly painless transition, since it wasn't an either/or situation; we could switch between the environment that worked best for us, and OS X played better with the Unix world around us than OS 9 did.
At that time we were doing a lot of Quark which was not OS X compatible. It became very tedious switching back and forth from Classic to OS X. By the time Quark got around to updating their software many people had moved to inDesign even though in many ways it was inferior but at least it worked in OS X. Adobe gave us free copies as an upgrade to Pagemaker which we hadn't used at all for several years. Adobe was pretty quick to adopt the new OS so it took the lead in what was a Quark dominated industry. Quark made the mistake of putting all their eggs in the Windows basket and they paid the price for ignoring their Mac base. Now they are irrelevant.
I bet you have a refrigerator full of Hostess Twinkies too.
Windows legacy compatibility is a critical infrastructure component for our accounting department so I am just buying insurance that I have a couple extra licenses to hold me over in the event that Microsoft screws the pooch on this OS launch. Hostess Twinkies on the other hand are more obnoxious than any version of Windows by a huge margin. They are just disgusting. I can honestly say I have never eaten any Hostess product including Wonder bread. I'm a natural foods guy all the way.
Good to know for the future. I always build my own machines from bare iron so I am used to having the install media that I intend on using.
Quick! Cue the calliope and send in Monkey Boy...!!!
Did you get permission from the creator to access atomic elements? You are likely going to be sued by God for using elements from the periodic table without a license?
LOL. For me, it was something like 20 minutes. And I've been using goddamned Windows since the late 80s.