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Construction of Apple's 'spaceship' campus may not be finished until 2016

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According to a construction timetable submitted by Apple to the city of Cupertino on Tuesday, the company may not be able to start work on the project until 2014, meaning the campus' expected completion date could be pushed back until 2016.

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The updated proposal, discovered by Bloomberg, was submitted on Nov. 14 and notes that Apple had wanted to break ground in 2012, but an environmental impact report may not be completed until June of next year.

?They could conceivably break ground in 2013, but only if everything goes smoothly,? said Cupertino city manager David Brandt, pointing out that much relies on the city council's approval and lack of opposition from residents. ?The project is running a little bit slow.?

According to the publication, the Nov. 14 submission includes the same renderings seen in previous reports and not much has changed from the original plans besides the relocation of an auditorium which will now be placed farther from a nearby road. Apparently Apple's updated filing provides a way to complete the massive undertaking without moving any dirt from the 176-acre lot that was previously owned by Hewlett-Packard.

The city was made aware of the submitted changes in August, but by filing in November, an approval in early 2013 is unrealistic, said Brandt. Apple initially planned to have the complex completed by 2015.

Design drawings and specs for Apple's proposed Campus 2 were were revealed by late company cofounder Steve Jobs at a Cupertino city council meeting in June 2011. Further details of the project have been "leaked" in the ensuing months, including images of the circular four-story main building which at 2.8 million square feet will be one of the largest buildings in the world.

Aarti Shrivastava, director of community development for the city of Cupertino, said that the recently-submitted plans will be posted online after Thanksgiving. The city is currently preparing additional servers to handle an expected spike in traffic.
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They must have found some Spotted Owls nesting in the old HP complex. Those are hard little buggers to shoot.

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That headline is completely misleading. "Construction of Apple's 'spaceship' campus may be delayed until 2014" or "Construction of Apple's 'spaceship' campus may not be completed until 2016" are both acceptable.

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Environmental impact report delayed? Compared to the what's currently there - the big buildings and huge parking lots - Apple's should be an easy report to do!

Steve Jobs wanted to place all the orchards back that were common during his younger years there, install more green power, and return most of that land back to its natural state. There are already countless cars that contribute to traffic there and the new campus I don't think would add to that since the workers are already commuting to the nearby buildings anyways that would eventually relocate to the new campus.

Just lame.

However, if any impact report should be done, I would wonder about the bank change that the current owner of the condominiums/apartments will be getting when the campus is completed. The owner was pretty savvy about keeping his lot of land out of Apple's hands. It's going to really be worth something in a few years.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

That headline is completely misleading. "Construction of Apple's 'spaceship' campus may be delayed until 2014" or "Construction of Apple's 'spaceship' campus may not be completed until 2016" are both acceptable.

I was thinking the exact same thing ... the way this headline is worded it makes it sound as if construction isn't starting until 2016, then you read the article and find out that isn't the case at all.  

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^^^^

 

Aside from the fact that the headline is grammatically incorrect to begin with. 

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2016?

 

Judging from the encroachment of advertising space on the iPad version of AppleInsider, I probably won't be reading about its completion seeing as entire articles will probably only have a few square millimetres per story:

 

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It's just a landing pad for our galactic neighbors when they arrive.

And each alien gets a free iPad to welcome them.

Then they laugh because it will be 10,000 year-old technology to them.
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2016?

 

Judging from the encroachment of advertising space on the iPad version of AppleInsider, I probably won't be reading about its completion seeing as entire articles will probably only have a few square millimetres per story:

 

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I know what you mean. Actually, the computer version is not much better! I realise advertisements financially support AI, of course, but can't AI put the advertisements in the webpage in such a way that they don't distract the reader too much. Also I'd like to see AI redesign the webpage a bit to make reading the latest reports a more pleasant experience.

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Ironically, the completion of this building will coincide with Apple's irrelevance. They'll probably be little more than a modern day Sony by 2016. Big, sure. Powerful in the market, sure. But without Jobs, no longer able to conjure magic out of thin air with new, unimagined products being announced every few years.
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2016?

 

Judging from the encroachment of advertising space on the iPad version of AppleInsider, I probably won't be reading about its completion seeing as entire articles will probably only have a few square millimetres per story:

 

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http://iphone.appleinsider.com  It works on my Mac. Try it on your iPad. 

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2016?

Judging from the encroachment of advertising space on the iPad version of AppleInsider, I probably won't be reading about its completion seeing as entire articles will probably only have a few square millimetres per story:

Things like that really push people towards adblock. Is it that hard to understand?

You can notice the impact to the site with the number of comments compared to the redesign. It seems like I am not the only person to think so. Good thing it doesn't scare the trolls away!!
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OmG SPACESHIP-GATE!!!
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2016?

Judging from the encroachment of advertising space on the iPad version of AppleInsider, I probably won't be reading about its completion seeing as entire articles will probably only have a few square millimetres per story:

Use AdBlock on iPad with Mercury web browser or Atomic Web Browser.

As for AppleInsider, that ship has sailed, where to, I am not sure.
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OmG SPACESHIP-GATE!!!

Spaceship gate.
Starship gate.
Star gate.
Stargate.

Is Apple building one on the opposite end of the Earth so it can products made in China even faster? That means it would take 42 minutes from start to finish. This is true for any segment, not just directly through the center, for any place on this planet, assuming there was absolutely nothing between the two points to impede your journey.

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Use AdBlock on iPad with Mercury web browser or Atomic Web Browser.

Yup. AppleInsider helped sell me a copy of Atomic Web Browser. Not perfect (would prefer to be able to block some specific javascript), but it restores some useability. Ironically, I originally got it just to block the scrolling crap at the top, not knowing you can (supposedly) set your profile to eliminate it.

I really hope people catch on to the fact that breaking the browsing experience doesn't help generate revenue long term. The worst has to be the SFGate iPhone page though with the ad that scrolls with you.
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I think headline writer may be not finish 4th grade.

*UPDATE* Headline writer finishes 4th grade, fixes headline. Now hard at work on grade 5.
Edited by popnfresh - 11/21/12 at 8:13am
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It's bordering on unethical at this stage.

 

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2016?

 

Judging from the encroachment of advertising space on the iPad version of AppleInsider, I probably won't be reading about its completion seeing as entire articles will probably only have a few square millimetres per story:

 

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This building will be beautiful.

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Contrast this with incredible advances in China where they are going to build echo friendly tallest building in the world in just 90 days.

http://gizmodo.com/5962070/china-will-build-the-tallest-building-in-the-world-in-just-90-days
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Pretty soon my webbrowser will be wget|grep|more. It's already too cluttered in lynx...

(I take back the Lynx comment; it defaults to the iPhone site which isn't too bad there.)
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Ironically, the completion of this building will coincide with Apple's irrelevance. They'll probably be little more than a modern day Sony by 2016. Big, sure. Powerful in the market, sure. But without Jobs, no longer able to conjure magic out of thin air with new, unimagined products being announced every few years.

Problem is Apple is always state-of-the-art thus it is difficult to become an Also-rans... (Definition: Samsung)

has-been heard many times before TROLL.

perhaps, you should instead Elucidate exactly why you think this...

hmm, in 2014 apple will have a 20nm A* processor in the New iPad, it will be thinner... and so on..
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Pretty soon my webbrowser will be wget|grep|more. It's already too cluttered in lynx...
(I take back the Lynx comment; it defaults to the iPhone site which isn't too bad there.)

do you mean wget | grep more ? LOL even that command will only show all occurances of more in the output of wget...
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http://iphone.appleinsider.com  It works on my Mac. Try it on your iPad. 

Excellent recommendation.

Thank you!
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Environmental impact report delayed? Compared to the what's currently there - the big buildings and huge parking lots - Apple's should be an easy report to do!

Steve Jobs wanted to place all the orchards back that were common during his younger years there, install more green power, and return most of that land back to its natural state. 

The environmental impact study also examines the demolition and construction aspects of the project. There is going to be a lot of digging going on for underground utilities as well as underground parking structure and underground auditorium, etc. There may also be some remediation required if there are any old underground waste water holding, fuel or chemical storage tanks. You never know until you do the study.

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@xxsamplexx
Do you have that little faith in Apple that they have no other ideas beyond what Jobs provided at Apple? Jobs greatest acheivement is Apple itself and building a sustainable company. I agree it will be hard to top the iPad as revolutionary (magic out of thin air as you call it) products come once a generation. Travel for example went from horse to buggy to train to car to plane. You could predict the next revolutionary travel will be space. Computers went from mainframe, desktop, laptop, tablet. Once a revolutionary product is released its all about evolution. The desktop computer is one example with processor and memory improvements every year since the first one. There is nothing revolutionary about that.

Apple becoming Sony in 4 years. Please tell me you a joking. Apple has way too much cash and ZERO debt. Compare that to Sony's latest results. http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html. I'm not going to get into specifics but numbers presented this way "$(3,851 )" are bad. This is in millions for Cash flow used in operating and investing activities combined excluding the Financial Services segment%u2019s activities. That can't be good.

Apple is all about integration. The future will be the continued seamless integration of apple products into our daily routine. We souldn't have to work at connecting them together and Apple to date has done n okay job at this. Yes it can be better but give Apple a break and have some faith they will do the right thing. Real people work there and I'm sure they have needs in their lives that we all share. Some of those ideas will be great and some won't. I'd bet some ideas are waiting for technology to catch up just like the iPad was an evolution of the Knowledge Navigator.
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AdBlock for Safari will solve your issue... on the Mac, at least.

iPad... is another story. But then again, you wanted a AppStore curated device, with no risky dangerous evil extension in your software, right?

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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iPad... is another story. But then again, you wanted a AppStore curated device, with no risky dangerous evil extension in your software, right?

 

Your point being what?

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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AdBlock for Safari will solve your issue... on the Mac, at least.
iPad... is another story. But then again, you wanted a AppStore curated device, with no risky dangerous evil extension in your software, right?

LOL

So you think I should toss the iPad and enjoy the site with 75% of it's space devoted to advertising on another device?

You make a convincing argument.

;-)
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Contrast this with incredible advances in China where they are going to build echo friendly tallest building in the world in just 90 days.
http://gizmodo.com/5962070/china-will-build-the-tallest-building-in-the-world-in-just-90-days

 

No, they're going to erect the building in 90 days, but it's made from pre-fab panels.   So the real question is how long does it take to manufacture the panels and ship them to site?    If that takes a  year or more, then there's not much difference as compared with traditional construction. 

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LOL
So you think I should toss the iPad and enjoy the site with 75% of it's space devoted to advertising on another device?
You make a convincing argument.
;-)

Huh? Just use Atomic or Mercury on your iPad. Solved.
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