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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

His post is no different than those of the Anti-Apple Brigade in this regard, and as such would probably be infraction-worthy under a strict reading of the rules. 

 

Can you please post a link to the page that spells out the rules for the forum?

 

Edit:  I found it.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/a/terms-of-service

 

Now for the strict reading and such...1hmm.gif


Edited by mstone - 11/25/12 at 8:36am

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Originally Posted by Soulbearer View Post
Here in US the patent and court system is brokenapple started this crusade against everyone that brings true innovation to the smartphone industry, so I make Apple responsible of the anti-apple trend generated because of this.

 

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Post is deleted, left it here as an example of what never to post. The whole thing is pure FUD, but the bold are examples straight from my List. Hilarious.

 

His post is no different than those of the Anti-Apple Brigade in this regard, and as such would probably be infraction-worthy under a strict reading of the rules. 

 

Apple do appear to be engaging in law suits with all the major phone makers, HTC, Motorola, Samsung… Some cases are defensive & some cases Apple initiated.

 

I'm have a hard time seeing how Soulbearer's opinion is against the forum rules, it is full of sweeping generalisations, but it is an opinion nontheless. 

 

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Yes. Apple probably can. Apple knows its right, whereas Samsung is just, well, copying everything Apple does… by suing back. Regardless of the suit's legality.

 

Your next statement is just as contentious and general as the one that Soulbearer made (has Samsung copied everything Apple does), accept you are bashing Samsung, not Apple.

 

Perhaps there was other content in the comment that pushed it over the limit (which I didn't see), but now it is unclear.

I know nothing is black & white, so please can you clarify why generalising against Samsung is OK, but generalising against Apple is not OK?

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Originally Posted by Droid View Post

Your next statement is just as contentious and general as the one that Soulbearer made (has Samsung copied everything Apple does), accept you are bashing Samsung, not Apple.

No, his comment is clearly trolling. It's like if I said to someone here, "In my opinion your mother is a whore," would you think I was really just expressing an opinion or trying to evoke an emotional reaction by such a pathetic comment? I hope the latter. That's what Soulbearer is doing.

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No, his comment is clearly trolling. It's like if I said to someone here, "In my opinion your mother is a whore," would you think I was really just expressing an opinion or trying to evoke an emotional reaction by such a pathetic comment? I hope the latter. That's what Soulbearer is doing.

Regardless, what is and isn't trolling and what the rules are etc are not what this thread is about. Polite behavior in a forum is that you stick to the topic and take all off topic out of the thread to an appropriate place. Sad part is that a troll was more on topic even with his FUD and it was a moderator that went off topic when he should be the one keeping things in check.

This is not the first time this has happened and I know it won't be the last which is why I still wish there was a way to ignore posts and the replies to it so I can just erase out such sub threads

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Post is deleted, left it here as an example of what never to post. The whole thing is pure FUD, but the bold are examples straight from my List. Hilarious.

 

In my opinion you should follow the rules. I'm fine with you deleting posts as you see fit as you are authorized to by AI, but please do not claim that the post was against the rules when instead it was simply on your list of trolling generalizations. Your List is not the rules. Furthermore I think it would be more appropriate for you to tone your overall rabid fanaticism down a couple notches. It is one thing for a regular poster to be rude and abrasive because we can put them on the ignore list however as a moderator regular members can not ignore your raving insults.

 


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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

No, his comment is clearly trolling. It's like if I said to someone here, "In my opinion your mother is a whore," would you think I was really just expressing an opinion or trying to evoke an emotional reaction by such a pathetic comment? I hope the latter. That's what Soulbearer is doing.
 

This remark if actually posted would be the only remark in this thread actually against the terms of service as it is sexual in nature. People get infractions or banned for things that are merely the opinion of the moderator and are not actually against the rules. I once got an infraction for lashing out at TS by suggesting he was most likely a basement dweller with no friends. Could be construed as a personal attack I suppose, however, personal attacks per se are not against the rules unless they are vulgar or threatening. 

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This remark if actually posted would be the only remark in this thread actually against the terms of service as it is sexual in nature. People get infractions or banned for things that are merely the opinion of the moderator and are not actually against the rules. I once got an infraction for lashing out at TS by suggesting he was most likely a basement dweller with no friends. Could be construed as a personal attack I suppose, however, personal attacks per se are not against the rules unless they are vulgar or threatening. 

1) That is a personal attack because you directed it at the person. It's like saying a poster is stupid is an ad hominem, but saying that you think a post is stupid has a different focus.

2) "To debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money" can also be used in terms like consumer whore. That is the original meaning people think of, but if you examine the etymology you actually get something very different. ORIGIN late Old English hōre, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch hoer and German Hure, from an Indo-European root shared by Latin carus ‘dear.’ Not that I had any such focus in my example. In fact, I wasn't thinking of anything sexual at all. More comedic than anything else. See SNL Jeopardy skit.

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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

Regardless, what is and isn't trolling and what the rules are etc are not what this thread is about. Polite behavior in a forum is that you stick to the topic and take all off topic out of the thread to an appropriate place. Sad part is that a troll was more on topic even with his FUD and it was a moderator that went off topic when he should be the one keeping things in check.
This is not the first time this has happened and I know it won't be the last which is why I still wish there was a way to ignore posts and the replies to it so I can just erase out such sub threads

I can see that PoV. I doubt I would have even noticed the poster if not for TS deleting it and then quoting what he deleting. Sometimes trollish comments are so obvious in the way they are formatted that I'll naturally skip them.

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1) That is a personal attack because you directed it at the person. It's like saying a poster is stupid is an ad hominem, but saying that you think a post is stupid has a different focus.
 

I still don't see anything in the rules about personal attacks being prohibited. Only vulgar or threatening posts are against the rules as they currently read.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

I still don't see anything in the rules about personal attacks being prohibited. Only vulgar or threatening posts are against the rules as they currently read.

Ah, I see your point. I'm pretty sure the ToS used to be considerably more extensive. I guess ad hominem attacks are no longer part of them.

I could argue that it would fall under hateful if you make such a comment but I'd still expect the ToS to cover that specifically if they thought it was necessary.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Ah, I see your point. I'm pretty sure the ToS used to be considerably more extensive. I guess ad hominem attacks are no longer part of them.

I could argue that it would fall under hateful if you make such a comment but I'd still expect the ToS to cover that specifically if they thought it was necessary.

No, the terms of service are the same as they have been as long as I have been here. The problem with making trolling or ad hominem attacks prohibited is that there is almost no way to actually define them. People use vulgar language around here all the time with no consequence however a single anti-Apple post will draw the wrath of TS.

 

I think the term hateful would be the same as it is used in law such as a hate crime. Like a racial slur. 


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THIS IS NOW A THREAD ABOUT TROLLING IN A THREAD...

 

Any further discussion about the initially posted subject will result in a perma-ban.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
People use vulgar language around here all the time with no consequence…

 

That'd be because it isn't banned. Profanity isn't against the rules, however I feel about it (put simply, I receive it poorly), so it's fine. 

 

The site's feelings on profanity is outlined pretty well in the rules. If you wish it restricted further, start a thread with a poll in the Feedback subforum.

 

People NEVER actually do this when I recommend it, which tells me that they don't really give a crap about the things they're saying. What, do they think we won't listen? Of course we'll listen. I'd start half the threads I recommend myself if it weren't for the fact that they should probably come from a regular user.

 
Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post
THIS IS NOW A THREAD ABOUT TROLLING IN A THREAD...

 

Any further discussion about the initially posted subject will result in a perma-ban.

 

Now come the posts ostensibly talking about trolling but subtly trying to stick in references to the lawsuit and either Apple or Samsung. And we'll have invented a brand new way of discussing things and have to come up with a name for what to call legitimate discussion when it's inserted into a trolling thread… lol.gif

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THIS IS NOW A THREAD ABOUT TROLLING IN A THREAD...

Any further discussion about the initially posted subject will result in a perma-ban.

Great idea, overly zealous moderation started it, more moderation can fix it!
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Originally Posted by Fix moderators View Post
Great idea, overly zealous moderation started it, more moderation can fix it!

 

Thanks for adding to my list of e-mail services to ban on sight.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Originally Posted by mstone View Post
People use vulgar language around here all the time with no consequence…

 

That'd be because it isn't banned. Profanity isn't against the rules, however I feel about it (put simply, I receive it poorly), so it's fine. 

Perhaps you should reread the rules, and my post as I specified "vulgar" which you can research the definition of here.

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Perhaps you should reread the rules, and my post as I specified "vulgar" which you can reasearch the definition of here.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

The site's feelings on profanity is outlined pretty well in the rules.

Actually, profanity is not mentioned at all.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/a/terms-of-service

 

and the 3rd paragraph is messed up.

 

By agreeing to these rules, 

What "rules"?

 

you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

Okay. But I'm supposed to agree with some other non-existent rule(s) first before I warrant anything.

 

How about;

"By posting on this site, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

If you violate the above rule, your posts may be deleted and/or you may be prohibited from posting."

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I love the regular posters on AI. Always intelligent and entertaining comments.

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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

How about;

"By posting on this site, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

If you violate the above rule, your posts may be deleted and/or you may be prohibited from posting."

 

That's… a given. That's implied by the words themselves… 

 

You're selling [product], see, and this kid comes up and takes one—walks off with it. Are you saying that because there's no sign on your door that says "no stealing, otherwise we'll take it back from you" he can keep it? REALLY?! lol.gif

 

I mean this, when I refer to "rules". 

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I love the regular posters on AI. Always intelligent and entertaining comments.

Gratuitous self promotion, you should be banned. lol.gif

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I mean this, when I refer to "rules". 

Fine thanks for posting that. Why should this not be the terms of service then?

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
Fine thanks for posting that. Why should this not be the terms of service then?

 

TOS and rules are separate entities. Where our TOS page falls down is in its… lack of linking to any list of actual rules. The "agree not to post yada yada" part seems to be required by every TOS on every website, and that doesn't much constitute rules so much as guidelines (ironically, as our rules sticky is called "guidelines").

 

And while it's only stickied in the General Discussion subforum, I've always felt that link of rules applied to all subforums. PoliticalOutsider has identically-worded rules 1 and 2, but rule 3 is changed due to its unique position. 4-7, I would imagine, apply just the same. Though—perhaps because it isn't specifically written out—4 often seems to be ignored over there… 

 

If we were to go by the TOS as our "rules", I'd have to stop banning spambots. lol.gif

 

Which reminds me; gotta do my daily signup check.

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That's… a given. That's implied by the words themselves… 

You're selling [product], see, and this kid comes up and takes one—walks off with it. Are you saying that because there's no sign on your door that says "no stealing, otherwise we'll take it back from you" he can keep it? REALLY?! lol.gif

I mean this, when I refer to "rules". 

Unfortunately it can be argued that guidelines are not rules/laws. The OAD3 lists it as "a general rule, principle, or piece of advice." JeffDM's made a guideline that stated rules — which I agree with — but they aren't official adopted by Ai because they are not detailed in the ToS in some way. It's the lack of clarity of guidelines being seen as rules and ToS having no such rules that does obfuscate the issue quite a bit for those that don't practice a modicum of forum etiquette or have much experience with internet forums.

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Gratuitous self promotion, you should be banned. lol.gif

In that video I posted about 1m:25s in he starts in about having a list. I thought it fit nicely into your previous comments.

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If we were to go by the TOS as our "rules", I'd have to stop banning spambots. lol.gif

 

Which reminds me; gotta do my daily signup check.

Despite my frequent criticism, this is one area where we all are very thankful for your dedication and diligence. 

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Gratuitous self promotion, you should be banned. lol.gif

In that video I posted about 1m:25s in he starts in about having a list. I thought it fit nicely into your previous comments.

Just kidding. I do consider you one of the more thoughtful and intelligent posters. I also have to say that video is rather entertaining.

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Just kidding. I do consider you one of the more thoughtful and intelligent posters. I also have to say that video is entertaining.

1) I know you were kidding, even without the emoticon.

2) And I, you. You will disagree with me if you think I'm wrong and will hold your ground with thoughtful and engaging comments that are straightforward and allow me to do the same without either one of use feeling insulted by the other.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
Aside from my frequent criticism, this is one area where we all are very thankful for your dedication and diligence. 

 

Well, thank you. I love this place, I love these people. Probably why I fight so hard. Too hard, at times.

 

If anything, you should be giving the Huddler team tips on how to put in proper features. There are things I could tell you about the back end that would make your hair stand on end… 

 

For example, did you know that we can't ban IP blocks anymore? vBulletin can, but Huddler can't right now. Have to do it individually, so all these SELLING REAL FAKE PASSPORT spambots that we've been seeing lately (or, if I'm doing my job right, either not seeing or not seeing for very long)? Even though they're coming from the same place (same country, actually, but we can't ban signups by country, either), we'd have to ban each IP individually. And by 'we', I mean 'admin and higher', otherwise I would have personally gone through and input every single IP for Cameroon by now.

 

Oh! And there's no meaningful searching on the backend. Sure, we can see all site activity by category, and sure, we can restrict that by username and by activity performed on the content (held by our spam-catcher, deleted, deleted as spam, edited-and who did the editing, and manually validated), but we can't search for any specific content. If I wanted to find all the posts that had the spam link to that matte Mac petition, I couldn't. Or if I wanted to find all the users whose user page biography field read "Man" (since, to date, that is our largest group of spam signups, and every single one does that for the biography), I couldn't. All that has to be manual. Worst, if I wanted to find all the users whose name contained (not STARTED with, contained), say, "from_UZ", I couldn't.

 

Actually, the user-side search can find that stuff! But then there are no mod tools on that page, so you'd have to go to each user page individually, then each user's ban page individually… etc.

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For example, did you know that we can't ban IP blocks anymore? vBulletin can, but Huddler can't right now. Have to do it individually, so all these SELLING REAL FAKE PASSPORT spambots that we've been seeing lately (or, if I'm doing my job right, either not seeing or not seeing for very long)? Even though they're coming from the same place (same country, actually, but we can't ban signups by country, either), we'd have to ban each IP individually. And by 'we', I mean 'admin and higher', otherwise I would have personally gone through and input every single IP for Cameroon by now.

Is this all saved in a text file on the server? If so, I would think that it would be pretty easy to create a utility that could input a range of values based from x to y by simply counting up from x++ until y is reached.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
Is this all saved in a text file on the server? If so, I would think that it would be pretty easy to create a utility that could input a range of values based from x to y by simply counting up from x++ until y is reached.

 

I dunno. I'd have to be an admin to even see the page used to add to the list.

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I mean this, when I refer to "rules". 

Okay. Thanks for that.

But the page I linked to states, "We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below"

There are no detailed rules below (on that page). 

 

and on the guidelines age you linked to it states, "2. Attacks against anyone NOT a member of AI, including AI itself, are allowed. However, posting or discussion of forum moderation, except in threads set up for that purpose, will be unceremoniously removed."

 

So all these posts should begone. lol.gif

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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post
But the page I linked to states, "We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below"

There are no detailed rules below (on that page). 

 

Exactly. Actually, hang on, I think I'll just link to the guidelines page from within the ToS themselves. At least that'll be a temporary fix.

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And I made this its own thread, since not doing that would be against the guidelines. lol.gif


Also, the ToS explicitly grants me the ability to do it. lol.gif

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Exactly. Actually, hang on, I think I'll just link to the guidelines page from within the ToS themselves. At least that'll be a temporary fix.

That works!

And I made this its own thread, since not doing that would be against the guidelines. lol.gif


Also, the ToS explicitly grants me the ability to do it. lol.gif

What's that saying about absolute power...?

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For example, did you know that we can't ban IP blocks anymore? vBulletin can, but Huddler can't right now. Have to do it individually, so all these SELLING REAL FAKE PASSPORT spambots that we've been seeing lately (or, if I'm doing my job right, either not seeing or not seeing for very long)? Even though they're coming from the same place (same country, actually, but we can't ban signups by country, either), we'd have to ban each IP individually. And by 'we', I mean 'admin and higher', otherwise I would have personally gone through and input every single IP for Cameroon by now.

 

I have not used Huddler but perhaps you could try using a wildcard for example:

 

41.67.255.* 

 

Might work????

 

Apologizes to those legitimate posters from Cameroon

 

That said with IPv6 about to be very common from China the whole concept of decimal dot addressing in blocks will have to revisited for banning purposes very soon

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That said with IPv6 about to be very common from China the whole concept of decimal dot addressing in blocks will have to revisited for banning purposes very soon

 

While I'm quite happy with the beginning of the adoption of IPv6, I shudder to think of what this will mean for spam before the forum softwares update. And in the case of some, ever.

 

Maybe this will force Apple to put back the IPv6 support they took out of the redesigned AirPort Utility…

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Maybe this will force Apple to put back the IPv6 support they took out of the redesigned AirPort Utility…

FYI: You can still download and use the previous -> AirPort Utiltity 5.6.1

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FYI: You can still download and use the previous -> AirPort Utiltity 5.6.1

 

1000

 

Yeah, but I shouldn't have to. I realize it's like Final Cut Pro X, where they drop features to focus on the core whatsahoosits, but didn't they drop a lot of important stuff in AirPort Utility? Including UFO support*, meaning that until I get my house's wires moved around, I can't use the new AirPort Utility, much less a new AirPort router.

 

*yeah, not that important, I guess

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Maybe this will force Apple to put back the IPv6 support they took out of the redesigned AirPort Utility…
FYI: You can still download and use the previous -> AirPort Utiltity 5.6.1

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