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post #81 of 106
Is this a sign of more things to come now that Jony Ive has taken over?
post #82 of 106

Very very bad! Now I can not see which apps I bought and which I didn't! You have to go to every app individual page to see if you have it or not. I don't understand why did they change it? What was wrong with the old interface?

 

And at Top Paid Apps list I can not see the price of apps. And it just crashed right now :(

post #83 of 106
GadgetCanada View Post

I'm wondering if the Windows bloatware version is finally put to rest.

iTunes is written like any other good Mac app: with multiple threads. The Windows architecture is far more oriented towards multiple processes, so spawning threads takes more resources. iTunes for Windows does not fit the definition of "bloatware," it's just not optimized for the Windows process model.

 

WelshDog View Post

Can you change the size of the app text in preferences?  Old iTunes text is too small for me.

Yes, at least for Songs (columns) view.

 

capoeira4u View Post
Is this a sign of more things to come now that Jony Ive has taken over?

Could go either way. iTunes has always been Apple's UI playground. Brushed metal, less rounded corners, and matte buttons started there. However, many other UI experiments died there as well. I doubt the new style (>) menus migrate to OS X, but the Equalizer window's menu decorations might.

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post #84 of 106
Originally Posted by NelsonX View Post
Now I can not see which apps I bought and which I didn't!

 

Try the Apps tab.

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Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post

My only complaint so far is in the older iTunes when playing songs in your playlist the artwork would show in the bottom left corner in around a 300x400 box. I really liked seeing that cover-art there, that seems to be gone. Now there is a tiny 25x25 or so cover-art box on top, but that is no good and too small, you can click on that to enlarge but its not permanent and out of the way like it was before. If anyone can find a way to return the bigger artwork permanently let me know. Thank you.

 

Secondly, maybe it would be nice to be able to slow down or turn the rotating carousel off on the iTunes store pages. Before they just kind of faded in and out and moved down but it was less noticeable. With the carousel, now it takes your attention away from viewing the front music pages and distracting.

 

Everything else seems fine, and I like it - overall it is an improvement - to me!


i agree about that album art box bottom left & i hope to hell they get it back very soon

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i agree about that album art box bottom left & i hope to hell they get it back very soon

 

 

How To Rollback Your iTunes:

 

Might be a non-issue to some, but to ME not having the artwork preview on the bottom left is a game breaker. Makes ZERO sense as to why Apple would remove that option, it's such a small part of iTunes that it couldn't have hurt them to leave it in, but it is used by many-many people. Soooo... if anyone wants to rollback to the previous iTunes, I found them here for Windows ONLY - be sure to pick the right bit version x64 or non (x32):

 

http://www.oldapps.com/itunes.php

 

Lastly, you must have the older version of this file or the older version won't open after install: iTunes Library.itl. Thankfully I backed up my old iTunes folder and still have my version 10 files and just replaced the '.itl' file from iTunes 11... everything works great and I have my artwork preview again.

 

I'll download iTunes 11 or 11.x or 12 if/when they add the artwork preview back, otherwise I'll stick with v10 as long as I can.

post #87 of 106
The second picture with a circle annotation shows purchase buttons amongst downloaded songs and iCloud buttons, which implies you can sample and purchase songs directly from your library, and even offers Complete My Album, without switching to the store view. I really want that functionality, but it's not showing up for me. Any ideas?
post #88 of 106
Syncing my iPhone is faster
the big problem is Syncing devices is still an after thought
Took me 15 minutes to poke enough things to get the side bar to display so I could actually manage my iPhone 4s.
And no I still can not sync my iPhone 4s via WiFi.
post #89 of 106
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Seems really confusing to me so far in terms of showing what's in the cloud, what's not etc. I think a lot of users will have trouble with this release.
When I log into my account for instance my "purchased" list shows nothing (!) but clicking on my local library shows everything that's been purchased since it's actually showing a blended view of local and cloud based stuff.
When I click "videos" again it shows none of my cloud purchases, but shows a blended view of what's locally on my computer and the videos that happen to be loaded on my iPad which is connected to the computer. These videos (the ones on the iPad) are presented with an iCloud icon supposedly indicating they are in the cloud, when in fact they are not, they are just on my iPad.
Waaay confusing so far.

I will take a stab at explaining this to you. When you are in the purchased list, there is a slider switch in the top right corner. It sets the display to show all of your purchases, or limits it to showing only those not presently on your computer.

 

As for the cloud, understand that Apple prefers that you not care whether media is local or in the cloud. You want to play it, click and it plays regardless of location. That said, the cloud icon means it's not on your computer--very simple. When you clicked on movies,  you saw a compilation of the movies that are locally on your computer and those that you have available in the cloud. Your iPad doesn't even enter the equation.

post #90 of 106
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Originally Posted by ubernaut View Post

no scrubbing in mini-player = a downgrade in my book

There are two ways to scrub from the mini-player. You can click and hold on the forward and rewind buttons, like iOS devices do with remote controls. Alternatively you can click on the artwork to open an album art window with a scrubber.

post #91 of 106
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Originally Posted by Sevenfeet View Post

Observations:

 

There is no more "Download Album Artwork".  

 

It's still available. It's now called "Get Album Artwork", a command available by right click or File/Library menu.

post #92 of 106
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

How? iTunes is required by OS X. And good luck reverting it.

Not sure what you mean by "required."  Just delete the iTunes app and OS X still works.

Time Machine makes reverting a no-brainer, doesn't it?


Edited by theDuderino - 12/1/12 at 5:05pm
post #93 of 106
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Originally Posted by MacAtty View Post

I for one was eagerly looking for two improvements to iTunes anticipated to come with iTunes 11: Up Next feature and better iCloud/iTunes Match operability.  Notes so far:

Up Next - Apple still doesn't seem to have gotten this right.  iTunes has long been the only major music player that doesn't support a queuing feature - instead of immediately playing a song, album or playlist, add that song, album or playlist to the end of the "now playing" selection.  Up Next promises to change that, and does to a certain extent.  Now, you can view (partially) the present queue by selecting the Up Next icon in the playing window.  And you can add a new song or album to that Up Next list, in two different ways: right clicking and selection "Play Next" or right clicking and selecting "Add to Up Next".  There are two problems with this feature: First, there doesn't appear to be a difference between "Play Next" and "Add to Up Next" - they both simply add the selection to the head of the Up Next queue.  One would think that "Play Next" would add to the front of the queue, while "Add to Up Next" would add the selection to the end of the "Up Next" queue.  As it is, there is no discernible reason to have both of these options, as they appear to do the exact same thing. Second, the pop-up window that shows the "Up Next" queue doesn't show the full queue, only the next 15 or so songs.  If the present queue is longer than that, it won't show the additional songs until the top of the queue clears out.  This may be related to why it's not possible to make the "Add to Up Next" function work as an "add to end of queue" function.  In any event, this seems to be yet another missed opportunity to implement this long-missing feature.

 

 

I don't understand what you're saying, because that's NOT how it's behaving for me. 

 

1) Play Next - adds a song to the top of the queue

2) Add to Up Next - adds a song to the bottom of the queue

3) Up Next drop-down window - shows the number of songs in the queue and they are all visible by scrolling. You can also delete a song, move a song to the top of the queue, and rearrange the order.

 

Misinformation, especially when not corrected, hinders the effort.

post #94 of 106
Originally Posted by theDuderino View Post
Not sure what you mean by "required."  Just delete the iTunes app and OS X still works.

 

1000

post #95 of 106
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

1000

Wow, mind blown.

post #96 of 106
Originally Posted by theDuderino View Post
Wow, mind blown.

 

Same with… QuickTime (given), Mail, App Store, Calendar, Contacts, Font Book, Dictionary, Calculator, Automator, Image Capture, Preview, TextEdit, Time Machine, and System Preferences.

 

All of those have unquestionably valid reasons, of course. Interestingly, Chess, Game Center, Notes, Reminders, Stickies, Photo Booth, and DVD player fall under this requirement, too. And that's where the* argument is.

 

*I say argument as though it's valid or something; they're, like, 85 megabytes combined and people still whine that they take up space.

post #97 of 106
NOT HAPPY! Coverflow? Am I missing something? Interface is confusing - something completely not Apple.
post #98 of 106
Originally Posted by ruel24 View Post
Coverflow? Am I missing something?

 

People haven't been using Cover Flow. It should never have entered Finder, of all places, and it was a foolish thing to put in desktop iTunes, too.


 Interface is confusing - something completely not Apple.

 

It's the same interface.

post #99 of 106

Took a bit to understand the new interface but it"s simply fantastic!

 

Does anyone know how to merge 2 libraries?

post #100 of 106
I think this new interface is totally non-intuitive ugly. Why does Apple keep making things worse? I think neophyte users will not intuitively understand how to use this. There are lot of things in the new interface that don't make sense to me.

The Grid view of a Playlist doesn't show track data. The "Artist List" isn't bad. But if you click "Add To", you get the library view on the left and the Playlist on the right. Seems to me you should be able to multiselect library items and move them to the Playlist in one shot. But you have to drag and drop each one. With all the options in the right-click, you'd think there'd be an option to move to the playlist. But nooooooo.

The old default view, with playlists on the left, was far more intuitive, since you always have to move tracks from the library to the playlist (which also, IMO, is problematic for neophyte users. Shouldn't newly added tracks automatically go to a default playlist? I've helped out elderly neighbors with iTunes and they never understood this library/playlist concept.)

Why is it showing an active button to eject my iPhone when my iPhone isn't plugged in?

When you're in the Store, the Library button on the top right is not obvious. So it's not immediately apparent how to get back to the Library.

When you have albums displaying and select one, you get a view that shows the album jacket and the tracks, but some brilliant Apple designer decided it would be a good idea to take a major color from the album jacket and make it the background, but they seem to be also overlaying that same color over the album jacket, thereby destroying the original color of the album jacket. Did Microsoft design this?

Other than that, it all sort of works, but it's incredibly boring and uninspiring. It's plain and ugly. You don't look at this and think, "Wow! Apple is so great and designing great looking intuitive apps." It looks like we're returning to the look of ugly enterprise applications that display database information in grids.
post #101 of 106
My fifteen year old daughter, who uses iTunes a lot, was initially rather ticked off by the most obvious changes from 10 to 11, but after about 10 minutes of her using it I haven't heard a squawk since: she updated to 11 when it first appeared in the Software Updates on her MacBook. Mind you, I did pass on the advice from the AI forum threads about using the "View" menu to get some of the old interface back at the start of those 10 minutes.

She actually happily showed me the album view when I asked how 11 was going: she saw this as a good thing. So at least one more person likes it. (I have to confess that I've still kept to my original decision and not updated from 10 to 11, even though I have recent Time Machine backup - the general squawking and clucking has so far outweighed the thumbs up, to my mind.)
post #102 of 106
The design of this iTunes 11 makes it blindingly obvious that the touchscreen Mac is coming sooner rather than later.
post #103 of 106

They removed the ability to "show duplicates". Why?

post #104 of 106
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They removed the ability to "show duplicates". Why?

Huh! Nice catch. That seems like an odd omission.

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post #105 of 106
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

The design of this iTunes 11 makes it blindingly obvious that the touchscreen Mac is coming sooner rather than later.

I don't see that because there are so many elements that are not touch friendly. For MS this would be a good touch interface but not for Apple.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
I don't see that because there are so many elements that are not touch friendly. For MS this would be a good touch interface but not for Apple.

 

Just like iBooks Author and many other OS X applications, it's halfway there.

 

There are plenty of times that I feel I want to touch the screen. There are an equal number of times that I'm glad I have a mouse cursor.

 

Apple is coaxing us over to multitouch. Said it before, say it again: they can't just jump to a revolution like they did in '84. Too many people have computers these days.

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