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Just hours after Apple launched sales of its newest iMac, an unboxing video and teardown photos hit the web detailing the sleek new all-in-one from its "trapezoidal" packaging down to its Intel i5 CPU.

Update: AppleInsider reader Ben has shared an unboxing video of his new iMac below.


Source: CinematicTech via YouTube


The pictures, from Japanese Apple blog Kodawarisan, are some of first to offer a peek (machine translation) inside the revamped 21.5-inch iMac, which at its thinnest edge is only 5 millimeters thick. Beneath the monolithic black display is a spartan interior that is hardly cramped for space as the logic board and accompanying circuitry are neatly arranged toward the middle of the chassis.

iMac Teardown
Source: Kodawarisan



All integral silicon is sealed off from the environment with a flexible rubber gasket system, save for a single opening for the FaceTime HD camera's ribbon cable. The iMac shown in the photos is the high-end version with a quad-core Intel Core i5 processor running at 2.9GHz.

iMac Teardown


A closer look at the logic board itself shows fairly large thermal transfer system that channels heat to a single centralized cooling fan located directly above the hard drive. Heat management looks to be well taken care of with a network of ducts funneling air to all corners of the chassis.

iMac Teardown


Apple started rolling out the slimmed-down iMac on Friday starting with Australia, and U.S. Apple Stores are expected to open their doors with limited stock of the 21.5-inch model in a few hours.
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The CPU isn't soldered to the board? Is this a change for the iMac?

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Another masterpiece from Sir Jony!
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inside and out, and altogether
Edited by enzos - 11/29/12 at 10:25pm
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So now we've seen that the RAM CAN be replaced, why isn't there a hatch like the 27"? And is the display still magnetic?
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Is what iFixit does really that hard? It must be because no one else even comes close to the quality of work they do. This doesn't even detail if the RAM is user replaceable (assuming one can get into the internals of the system).

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It is a beautiful piece of work. I wish I was in the market for one. Unfortunately, mine is just 2 years old.

By the time I need a replacement we might finally see an iMac that just is a piece of glass with imbedded circuitry like in the movies.
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So now we've seen that the RAM CAN be replaced, why isn't there a hatch like the 27"? And is the display still magnetic?

It does look like it's 2 overlapping 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM sticks but I can't be certain based on the images.

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The CPU isn't soldered to the board? Is this a change for the iMac?
 

The cpus in these have always been socketed. You didn't hear about people trying to upgrade them because aside from the warranty issues, the standard options basically go up to the best available in that socket. It wouldn't necessarily be practical.

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Is what iFixit does really that hard? It must be because no one else even comes close to the quality of work they do. This doesn't even detail if the RAM is user replaceable (assuming one can get into the internals of the system).

 

The 27" was considered user serviceable in terms of memory last time I checked the Apple site.

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The CPU isn't soldered to the board? Is this a change for the iMac?

 

I believe the higher end models use sockets to make it easy to build "configure to order" models. Same reason for standard SO-DIMM slots. They can't predict how many people will want to upgrade and it would be foolish to make a whole bunch of boards in different configurations just in case someone wants a different CPU or more RAM. Tim Cook hates having inventory sitting around hoping someone will want it.

 

I've heard that the lower models that don't offer a choice of CPU have traditionally soldered the part directly to the board.

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It is a beautiful piece of work. I wish I was in the market for one. Unfortunately, mine is just 2 years old.
By the time I need a replacement we might finally see an iMac that just is a piece of glass with imbedded circuitry like in the movies.

Forget being in the market for one, I wish I had money for one. This does look really nice.

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I can't believe they let the box tapered like that and not in the proper box shape!!! OCD me... That's going to be hard to stack!!!
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Yes, cool design, and nice pricing too, but, unfortunately, they chose to not support pure SSD (except for the 768GB SSD option, which is a joke).

 

The Mac Mini was almost perfect: Good CPU, good pure SSD (256GB), and good RAM (16GB). But with a bad GPU. So I cannot justify its purchase.

 

The iMac fixes the Mac Mini weakness by adding a good GPU, but unfortunately drops the 256GB SSD option, so I won't buy it either (yes, I know Fusion well, and no thanks, I won't buy it, I want pure SSD -if you can put it in the Mac Mini, you can also put it on the iMac, so there's no excuse for you here Apple).

 

Now let's wait for the Mac Pro. Chances are that they'll manage to trash the Mac Pro too, just like they did with the Mini and the iMac...

 

Anyway, no reason to worry, as Apple wants us to use iOS for all computing tasks in the future, so don't worry if there's no useful Mac desktop in the market... we'll be forced to move to iPads at some point anyway.

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Saw one at my local shop this morning.  It was sweet.  The display really is less reflective.  As for the fan, there is a vent on the back under the stand where you can really feel air coming out.  Couldn't tell how quiet or noisy it was with all of the background noise of the shop.

 

Had to wait until late afternoon to actually order.

 

The online store says 2-3 weeks but my reseller said their system said January.  Guess Apple is trying to get people to order through their own store.  I like my shop and they need the business more than I need the new machine (want is another problem), so I guess I'll have to wait an extra couple of weeks.

 

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You think the kid is spoiled or what?
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Yes, cool design, and nice pricing too, but, unfortunately, they chose to not support pure SSD (except for the 768GB SSD option, which is a joke).

 

The Mac Mini was almost perfect: Good CPU, good pure SSD (256GB), and good RAM (16GB). But with a bad GPU. So I cannot justify its purchase.

 

The iMac fixes the Mac Mini weakness by adding a good GPU, but unfortunately drops the 256GB SSD option, so I won't buy it either (yes, I know Fusion well, and no thanks, I won't buy it, I want pure SSD -if you can put it in the Mac Mini, you can also put it on the iMac, so there's no excuse for you here Apple).

 

Now let's wait for the Mac Pro. Chances are that they'll manage to trash the Mac Pro too, just like they did with the Mini and the iMac...

 

Anyway, no reason to worry, as Apple wants us to use iOS for all computing tasks in the future, so don't worry if there's no useful Mac desktop in the market... we'll be forced to move to iPads at some point anyway.

You see... Only someone as dumb as a rock would say this. If for some reason all macs do not meet your needs, that's fine, but calling those things trash when they never sold as many, never were so ahead the rest in their respective categories, is something that makes me feel sorry for you.

 

Like it or not, the iMac is the best possible desktop for 99% of the worlds population. get over it.

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You see... Only someone as dumb as a rock would say this. If for some reason all macs do not meet your needs, that's fine, but calling those things trash when they never sold as many, never were so ahead the rest in their respective categories, is something that makes me feel sorry for you.

 

Like it or not, the iMac is the best possible desktop for 99% of the worlds population. get over it.

 

I agree that he may have gone over the top with calling everything trash. But I do believe he had some valid points. I, too, wanted to have an all SSD option and Apple has clearly priced it WELL out of my price range by only including a $1300 768 SSD option.

 

But it will certainly not cause me to miss out on this machine. My mouth waters at the thought of it :)


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I agree that he may have gone over the top with calling everything trash. But I do believe he had some valid points. I, too, wanted to have an all SSD option and Apple has clearly priced it WELL out of my price range by only including a $1300 768 SSD option.

But it will certainly not cause me to miss out on this machine. My mouth waters at the thought of it 1smile.gif

I wonder if the Fusion drive can be reformatted as separate drives. That would give you a 128 GB SSD and a 1 TB hard disk - which might satisfy some of the people who want pure SSD.
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With the previous iMacs (2011 model) having a very difficult to replace HD because of sensors and the likes, I wonder if we can replace the HD on these new iMacs ourselves after all. I'm also not very interested in a Fusion drive (yet), but I would like to have my own SSD in it at a later stage. Does anyone have some insights in this perhaps?

 

Also, I can't wait to see wether or not it's possible to install Windows (for the occassional PC game) via a USB stick with these iMacs… the previous iMacs had no such option and required a Superdrive, which is now obviously gone in the current iMacs :)

 

But the thing I'm [b]most[/b] curious about is how well the new GT650M GPU will hold up against the previous Ati6770M. They both have the same 512MB in them, but usually iMacs have always come with a GPU that's better than the MacBook Pro's GPU. With these new iMacs the second iMac has the exact sáme GPU as the MacBook Pro. I can't wait to see benchmarks of this new GPU to see wether or not it's actually an improvement over Ati's6770M.

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I can't believe they let the box tapered like that and not in the proper box shape!!! OCD me... That's going to be hard to stack!!!

How many are you planning to buy such that stacking the boxes is a big concern? (Actually it's not a concern...turn every other box around and they all fit together perfectly!)

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I agree that he may have gone over the top with calling everything trash. But I do believe he had some valid points. I, too, wanted to have an all SSD option and Apple has clearly priced it WELL out of my price range by only including a $1300 768 SSD option.

 

But it will certainly not cause me to miss out on this machine. My mouth waters at the thought of it :)

The new iMac is very difficult to assemble/build, just like the retina. I'm sure you read somewhere about that.

 

So, before they can ramp up the production, they are demanding premium for flash, just like they did with the rMBP 15.

 

Who told you that in 1 month apple won't offer more SSD options, just like they did with the laptop?

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I'm actually surprised to see so much empty space inside the casing.  Assuming the photos are of the 21.5" version, looks like they just took a 17" MBP and shoved it into a bigger case with larger display and bigger fans.  Obviously that's not the case here since it's clear they designed all the components from the ground up.  Just really amazing to see how little you need to produce a truly powerful PC.

 

That being said, I still think that the better deal is to buy the Mac Mini paired with an external display.  For the same price as the iMac you have pretty much the same powerful machine, and you can keep the display for years to come.  I always thought the iMac was beautiful and the perfect All-in-one, but displays last so much longer than CPUs and I always felt like it was such a waste to have to pitch the monitor and the CPU every time you upgrade.  The primary deal-breaker for me.

 

That also being said.  As not surprising as it is, It's sill a bit strange that nobody but Apple has adopted Intel's Thunderbolt I/O.  What makes this kind of frustrating is that in order to get full resolution for Apple's computers, you have to use TB.  So really if you want 2560x1440 from your Macbook or Mac Mini, you have to go Thunderbolt.  This irks me quite a bit, since there are other monitors out there that are just as good and have much less glare than the TB Display.  Dell and Acer both offer equal 27" solutions but without TB, the best resolution you'll get is 1920x1080.  Way to continue to suck us in Apple.

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I wonder if the Fusion drive can be reformatted as separate drives. That would give you a 128 GB SSD and a 1 TB hard disk - which might satisfy some of the people who want pure SSD.

 

Apparently it can which is what I am going to do. Looks very simple using terminal.

 

See http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20121103_2-DiskUtility-nasties.html

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I'm actually surprised to see so much empty space inside the casing.  Assuming the photos are of the 21.5" version, looks like they just took a 17" MBP and shoved it into a bigger case with larger display and bigger fans.  Obviously that's not the case here since it's clear they designed all the components from the ground up.  Just really amazing to see how little you need to produce a truly powerful PC.

 

That being said, I still think that the better deal is to buy the Mac Mini paired with an external display.  For the same price as the iMac you have pretty much the same powerful machine, and you can keep the display for years to come.  I always thought the iMac was beautiful and the perfect All-in-one, but displays last so much longer than CPUs and I always felt like it was such a waste to have to pitch the monitor and the CPU every time you upgrade.  The primary deal-breaker for me.

 

That also being said.  As not surprising as it is, It's sill a bit strange that nobody but Apple has adopted Intel's Thunderbolt I/O.  What makes this kind of frustrating is that in order to get full resolution for Apple's computers, you have to use TB.  So really if you want 2560x1440 from your Macbook or Mac Mini, you have to go Thunderbolt.  This irks me quite a bit, since there are other monitors out there that are just as good and have much less glare than the TB Display.  Dell and Acer both offer equal 27" solutions but without TB, the best resolution you'll get is 1920x1080.  Way to continue to suck us in Apple.

 

But that's because the other OEMs suck and are slow to adapt and evolve. so?

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Ben, nice dramatic video :) Congrats on the new iMac, I'm looking forward to getting one but it probably won't be for a while...

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But that's because the other OEMs suck and are slow to adapt and evolve. so?

If you really read and understood my last paragraph, you wouldn't have to ask the question.

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Apparently it can which is what I am going to do. Looks very simple using terminal.

 

See http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20121103_2-DiskUtility-nasties.html

I think you guys don't really understand how the Fusion drive works.  There's really not need to re-partition, the software sort of does that on the fly to maximize speed to the programs you use the most.  At least, that's how I understand it.

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I think you guys don't really understand how the Fusion drive works.  There's really not need to re-partition, the software sort of does that on the fly to maximize speed to the programs you use the most.  At least, that's how I understand it.

But they wan't to control everything themselves.

They want to put the programs and files they want on the SSD, always.

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Some of the comments out there claiming that everything in this new iMac revolved around a deceiving 5mm edge are ridiculous, Just like the floppy drive, Apple is getting rid of things they see trending out of the product lines, like optical drives and wired networking. The decision to remove the optical drive and laminate the display directly to the cover glass allowed for a thinner design. But there's no evidence Apple chose to remove the optical drive for the sole purpose of being able to brag about a 5mm edge on the display.
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Another masterpiece from Sir Jony!

Hmm... It is delicious but why the chin? The LED and Thunderbolt Cinema Displays are lovely without the chin. With the thinness dropping the chin would have been perfect.
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the 680MX upgrade for the 27" inch is only 150 dollars! (on a 2000 dollar system) but the only drawback (compared to the desktop card) is that the clock speed of 680MX is approx 720MHz... (the retail card is about 50% faster... but it is also 500 dollars)

SWEET, that you can get the FASTEST laptop GPU ever (apart from SLI) !!!! (in a mac) (now all of those "boat Anchor" gaming laptops will have to include a tow rope!!! LOL)

so if you are going to get the 2000 dollar 27 inch, the 680MX is a must (even if your going to need to run WIN7 to game on it...to "stretch the legs" of that GPU.)
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I think you guys don't really understand how the Fusion drive works.  There's really not need to re-partition, the software sort of does that on the fly to maximize speed to the programs you use the most.  At least, that's how I understand it.

But they wan't to control everything themselves.

They want to put the programs and files they want on the SSD, always.

Then simply open them frequently.

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Originally Posted by sr2012 View Post
Hmm... It is delicious but why the chin?

 

So that people aren't scammed during a resale and so that the hardware can actually fit inside the computer.

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Another masterpiece from Sir Jony!

Hmm... It is delicious but why the chin? The LED and Thunderbolt Cinema Displays are lovely without the chin. With the thinness dropping the chin would have been perfect.

Every all-in-one Macintosh computer has had a "chin". Ever since the very first one. And guess what; it's fine. It's a computer; not a monitor.

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Wow, that is an incredibly beautiful machine.
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Yes, cool design, and nice pricing too, but, unfortunately, they chose to not support pure SSD (except for the 768GB SSD option, which is a joke).

 

The Mac Mini was almost perfect: Good CPU, good pure SSD (256GB), and good RAM (16GB). But with a bad GPU. So I cannot justify its purchase.

 

The iMac fixes the Mac Mini weakness by adding a good GPU, but unfortunately drops the 256GB SSD option, so I won't buy it either (yes, I know Fusion well, and no thanks, I won't buy it, I want pure SSD -if you can put it in the Mac Mini, you can also put it on the iMac, so there's no excuse for you here Apple).

 

Now let's wait for the Mac Pro. Chances are that they'll manage to trash the Mac Pro too, just like they did with the Mini and the iMac...

 

Anyway, no reason to worry, as Apple wants us to use iOS for all computing tasks in the future, so don't worry if there's no useful Mac desktop in the market... we'll be forced to move to iPads at some point anyway.

 

I agree about "pure" SSD being preferable but it's kind of silly that you are arguing that the only thing "wrong" with the new iMac is that it's "pure" SSD isn't small enough?  

This is ridiculous on the face of it. 

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post
I agree about "pure" SSD being preferable but it's kind of silly that you are arguing that the only thing "wrong" with the new iMac is that it's "pure" SSD isn't small enough?  

This is ridiculous on the face of it. 

 

Well, you know what they say, "250 TB is too much for anyone." 1wink.gif

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As someone who's had to shell out a bunch of money and be stressed to the max getting my old SE/30's, IIci's etc. recapped I find it quite annoying that Apple is still using the same capacitor technology in their current products.

Why are they not using Tantalum caps???? Anyone? Oh right, designed for future failure.
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I can't understand why Apple would eliminate the microphone input.
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Originally Posted by pondosinatra View Post
Why are they not using Tantalum caps???? Anyone? Oh right, designed for future failure.

 

Uh… if you plan to be using it as a primary, secondary, tertiary, or even museum exhibit machine, you don't need to worry about them actually, you know, failing, at any point.

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