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Apple's big-screen 27-inch iMac looks to be in extremely limited supply this holiday, as the estimated shipping time has already lengthened less than 24 hours after the new all-in-one desktop went on sale.

Apple's online store originally advertised that the new 27-inch iMac would ship to new orders within two to three weeks. But just hours after the slimmer iMac became available, new orders are now advertised to ship in three to four weeks.

The revised shipping estimate suggests that new orders may not arrive in time for Christmas, which is just three and a half weeks away.

The three-to-four-week wait applies to both the 2.9-gigahertz model, which sells for $1,799, as well as the 3.2-gigahertz model, available for $1,999.

For those interested in the 21.5-inch model, both the 2.7- and 2.9-gigahertz varieties remain available to ship in one to three business days. Units may also available at Apple's retail stores for those who want to pick one up right away.

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The first benchmarks for the 27-inch model show that its new Ivy Bridge processor will offer more than a 50 percent speed boost with certain tasks. Tests of the 21.5-inch model have also been shown to be about nearly 25 percent faster than their predecessor.

The redesigned iMac boasts an aluminum that is only 5-millimeters thick at its edge and also features a reengineered display which Apple claims reduces reflections by 75 percent. Speed has also been increased thanks to new quad-core Intel silicon and NVIDIA GeForce graphics processors, the latter of which is said to deliver up to a 60 percent boost in performance.

Also new is the Fusion Drive, a hybrid hard drive solution that combines the performance of solid-state media with the capacity and affordability of a hard drive. Apple solution couples 128-gigabytes of flash memory with a standard hard drive to create a single storage volume that intelligently manages frequently-used files and programs to optimize performance.
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"Limited supply" or wildly enthusiastic demand?
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Gentlemen, need I say more. This is the worst management of product launches in Apple's recent 10 year history.

I'm not saying it to bash Apple, I'm just calling it like it is.
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Originally Posted by jfc1138 View Post
"Limited supply" or wildly enthusiastic demand?

 

"No one would ever buy an all-in-one computer for real work."

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"No one would ever buy an all-in-one computer for real work."

Heh... They want to, just can't find the new iMac!
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Unrelated question. How do I gift an iPhone app that I already bought it for myself? I want to buy it a second time and send it to someone as gift.

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"No one would ever buy an all-in-one computer for real work."

 

Out of curiosity, what is unreal work?

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Gentlemen, need I say more. This is the worst management of product launches in Apple's recent 10 year history.
I'm not saying it to bash Apple, I'm just calling it like it is.

Absolutely right, this entire refresh cycle was a HUGE screwup. Hopefully the right heads will roll in time for this.
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Originally Posted by Strix View Post
Out of curiosity, what is unreal work?

 

Yet more holes in their arguments, eh? lol.gif

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Could you do better? Apple doesn't seem to be the only one with this problem. Take a look at Asus having a hard time finding displays. The fact is, this is bleeding edge display technology and you need to make it work, but sometimes crap happens and you can't get the yields in the real world. If you need an iMac now, then go buy a 2011 model and sell it on eBay when you get the new one.

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Gentlemen, need I say more. This is the worst management of product launches in Apple's recent 10 year history.
I'm not saying it to bash Apple, I'm just calling it like it is.

Not really. The 27 inch hasn't shipped yet. They updated the expected timing based on how many they safely feel they will have by the actual shipping date. If they have more, folks will get them a bit earlier.

But they were clear from the start that supplies would be tight. If folks decided to bank on this for Christmas that is on them. And they never said it would be the first of either month so they aren't delayed or any of that crap. Personally I would much rather supplies be tight because they are hopefully being slower and more careful with the welding and that individually calibrated display so we don't have more yellow screen crap etc.

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I'll want to see product numbers before I'd call screwup. Selling everything you can make isn't a problem until you can only make a small number of them.
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"No one would ever buy an all-in-one computer for real work."


Out of curiosity, what is unreal work?

I might say getting paid to blow things up and to shoot people is 'unreal' work.

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I'll want to see product numbers before I'd call screwup. Selling everything you can make isn't a problem until you can only make a small number of them.

Yes and no. If the small number is because you are being slower and more careful and produce something that isn't returned the day it is received for an obvious flaw, that isn't so bad.

Small number cause you didn't think that many folks would want one (looking at you HP Slate) is bad.

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Unrelated question. How do I gift an iPhone app that I already bought it for myself? I want to buy it a second time and send it to someone as gift.

Send them an iTunes gift card.

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Out of curiosity, what is unreal work?

Porn.

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Not really. The 27 inch hasn't shipped yet. They updated the expected timing based on how many they safely feel they will have by the actual shipping date. If they have more, folks will get them a bit earlier.
But they were clear from the start that supplies would be tight. If folks decided to bank on this for Christmas that is on them. And they never said it would be the first of either month so they aren't delayed or any of that crap. Personally I would much rather supplies be tight because they are hopefully being slower and more careful with the welding and that individually calibrated display so we don't have more yellow screen crap etc.

 

You're not going to get very far in this discussion using common sense. 1biggrin.gif  

 

And I agree.

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that would be goofing off on appleinsider forums when i should be working. but that's just me 1wink.gif

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Unrelated question. How do I gift an iPhone app that I already bought it for myself? I want to buy it a second time and send it to someone as gift.


The only way (that I know of) is to share your iTunes account with them.

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"No one would ever buy an all-in-one computer for real work."

 

Not unless the alternative computer designed for "real work" had been left to languish to the point where the huge price difference just couldn't be justified.

 
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Unrelated question. How do I gift an iPhone app that I already bought it for myself? I want to buy it a second time and send it to someone as gift.

You cannot gift apps if you are using iOS 6. Furthermore, if you already purchased the app you will not see "Gift this App" option on your Mac/PC unless you log out from your iTunes account. After you log out you need to find the app and then click the small triangle next to the price. It is stupid that they overlooked (intentionally?!) this.

 

Note: It is interesting that the app "Tiny Wings" have a link inside the app that enables you to gift the app. It takes you to a page in the app store iOS iTunes app where you enter the email of the person you want to gift the app to! Why this is not available in the App Store directly is stupid!

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I want one! can someone send me one!?!? lol
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"No one would ever buy an all-in-one computer for real work."

 

 

inane comment or sarcasm????????  

 

please advise which one?

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inane comment or sarcasm????????  

 

please advise which one?

 

He isn't capable of sarcasm.

 

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"Limited supply" or wildly enthusiastic demand?

 

Limited supply.

 

I looked at getting the 27" model, but after spec'ing it high enough to be a useful replacement for my current desktop, I was sitting at $2,499.00, not including a RAM upgrade. Which, btw, 200 bucks for 40 dollars worth of RAM, Apple? The hell do you think you're kidding? Anyone who says the "Apple Tax" is a myth, yeah, Exhibit A, right here.

Anyway, gorgeous screen, gorgeous design, only complaint I've heard is lack of physical drive which I don't need, and less than stellar sound which doesn't matter because I have 300 dollar speakers anyway, but $2,500 is a bit more than I can justify right now. Maybe next year.

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So it matches expectations
Oh no more fighting.
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Originally Posted by jfc1138 View Post

"Limited supply" or wildly enthusiastic demand?

Prior rumors suggested problems with the new display process. I wouldn't limit it to one or the other.

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Limited supply.

I looked at getting the 27" model, but after spec'ing it high enough to be a useful replacement for my current desktop, I was sitting at $2,499.00, not including a RAM upgrade. Which, btw, 200 bucks for 40 dollars worth of RAM, Apple? The hell do you think you're kidding? Anyone who says the "Apple Tax" is a myth, yeah, Exhibit A, right here.
Anyway, gorgeous screen, gorgeous design, only complaint I've heard is lack of physical drive which I don't need, and less than stellar sound which doesn't matter because I have 300 dollar speakers anyway, but $2,500 is a bit more than I can justify right now. Maybe next year.

First, it's not $40 worth of RAM. Why not price equivalent quality and speed SO-DIMMs from a reputable supplier. It's more like $140 worth of RAM the last time I checked.

Second, ALL computer vendors charge high margins for upgrades. That's the nature of the business.

Finally, before you claim that it's due to the "Apple Tax", you have to show a comparable 27" AIO of comparable build quality, performance, and so on for less. So where can you buy a comparable 27" for less?

ETA:
I just checked and the price has come down. 8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz SO-DIMMs are now $49 each from 18004memory - which is generally one of the best places to buy Mac RAM. So Apple is charging $200 for $100 worth of RAM - which is not the least bit out of line. For example, Dell charges $175 to upgrade to 16 GB - and that's 4 x 4 GB which should be cheaper than the 2 x 8 GB Apple uses. Also, Apple's RAM specs have traditionally been higher than the rest of the industry.
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First, I really don't understand why every time an Apple product comes out, the first thing people are bitching about is the price. Okay, it has always been the case that Apple products do cost more than the others - And it is because of much much better quality for product they build and they have not only functional, but they are in many cases a piece of art. I would rather put this product in my living room v/s HP's All-in-One product. So please, stop complaining about the cost as Apple has never claimed they are cheaper. It's like Bugati will cost you a million and if I don't want to pay that I can go with Lambo for 1/3 the price! If you don't want to pay the price - Just move along!

 

Now as far as "Limited supply" or "High Demand" - First, this product was not suppose to be available until December! They moved up the date and have it available sooner. I am sure they understand the supply chain aspect much better than all of the whiners on this board. It is certainly the case of "Enthusiasm" for this product. It certainly is something that is not very easy to predict.

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Absolutely right, this entire refresh cycle was a HUGE screwup. Hopefully the right heads will roll in time for this.

What's scary is probably the ~wrong~ heads will roll to cover the a**es of the bosses in control. And I'm glad someone agrees with me! Disastrous, disastrous stuff just a year out from Steve's passing.

Just saw the Apple Genius ads (finally) as well... Shocking and bizarre.
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Originally Posted by auxio View Post
Not unless the alternative computer designed for "real work" had been left to languish to the point where the huge price difference just couldn't be justified.

 

Nope. That's a workstation computer. You don't get it.


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inane comment or sarcasm????????  

 

Quotes means mocking the Anti-Apple Brigade.


Originally Posted by allenbf View Post
He isn't capable of sarcasm.

 

/s

 

I like this take. It shows up as semi-true because I always do my sarcasm completely deadpan.

Originally Posted by helia

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First, I really don't understand why every time an Apple product comes out, the first thing people are bitching about is the price. Okay, it has always been the case that Apple products do cost more than the others - And it is because of much much better quality for product they build and they have not only functional, but they are in many cases a piece of art. I would rather put this product in my living room v/s HP's All-in-One product. So please, stop complaining about the cost as Apple has never claimed they are cheaper. It's like Bugati will cost you a million and if I don't want to pay that I can go with Lambo for 1/3 the price! If you don't want to pay the price - Just move along!

Actually, the statement that Apple products are much more expensive than the competitive products is not really true any more.

Look at the MacBook Air. Apple's competitors nearly had heart failure when it came out - and are struggling to offer comparable products at the same price. In fact, without Intel's subsidy, they probably couldn't do it.

The iPad is certainly fairly priced compared to the competition. Compare it to the Surface or Tab 10" for example.

The iPhone is not very different in price compared to other high end phones.

And I don't think there's any AIO comparable to the iMac for less money.

The problem is that people insist on apples and oranges comparisons. They'll compare a MacBook Pro to the cheapest POS laptop they can find. They compare the iPhone to some smart phone that's only half a step up from feature phones. They compare the iMac to either a desktop computer or a cheap plastic AIO. When you compare comparable, high quality products, Apple products are not significantly higher in most cases.
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...I always do my sarcasm completely deadpan.

Are you being sarcastic?

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Originally Posted by AnalogJack View Post
Are you being sarcastic?

 

Yes¡

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First, it's not $40 worth of RAM. Why not price equivalent quality and speed SO-DIMMs from a reputable supplier. It's more like $140 worth of RAM the last time I checked.
Second, ALL computer vendors charge high margins for upgrades. That's the nature of the business.
Finally, before you claim that it's due to the "Apple Tax", you have to show a comparable 27" AIO of comparable build quality, performance, and so on for less. So where can you buy a comparable 27" for less?
ETA:
I just checked and the price has come down. 8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz SO-DIMMs are now $49 each from 18004memory - which is generally one of the best places to buy Mac RAM. So Apple is charging $200 for $100 worth of RAM - which is not the least bit out of line. For example, Dell charges $175 to upgrade to 16 GB - and that's 4 x 4 GB which should be cheaper than the 2 x 8 GB Apple uses. Also, Apple's RAM specs have traditionally been higher than the rest of the industry.


It's around $80 directly from Crucial. They're a subsidiary of Micron. The same thing off newegg is $72. Crucial is notably on par with what Apple would use, but I wouldn't use a single sample to determine this. I'd just say you could buy 2x8GB sticks from a reputable brand within $80. Prices on memory have been plummeting. Look at how expensive it was in 2011. Also you're right. All oems charge high markups on any kind of upgrades. As I've said before, they charge extra for any kind of cto configuration. It's not limited to Apple. Now the part that looks like nonsense. How have Apple's ram specs been higher? Are you suggesting they test it before shipping? All oems do that, especially in the price range of Macs. It's like when people claim that PC vendors use DDR3 rather than DDR5 on gpu memory. They may have seen it happen, but it's rare and basically non existent once past a certain price range.

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