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Whether it's a prototype of a future "iPhone 5S" or an unused iPhone 5 design, a new part claims to show the back panel of an unreleased handset from Apple.

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The component has an outside appearance essentially identical to Apple's recently released iPhone 5. But on the inside, the component, first highlighted by Nowhereelse.fr, has a slightly tweaked design with differently placed screws.

The parts are claimed to be from a prototype for Apple's next-generation iPhone, which could be known as the "iPhone 5S," if the company follows its previous naming scheme. However, given how recently the iPhone 5 launched, it's also possible the component could be from an earlier prototype design for Apple's latest handset.

Since the launch of the iPhone 3G in 2008, Apple has kept the same external iPhone design for about two years before overhauling its appearance. The iPhone 3G and iPhone 4 were succeeded by the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4S in the following respective calendar years.

If that trend continues, a so-called "iPhone 5S" would have essentially same exterior as the current iPhone 5, with any changes made on the inside.

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The back panel of the mystery iPhone part has 'X' marks replacing information such as the model number, FCC ID and IMEI number. Previous prototype handsets that have been photographed have also done this.

While the pictures may show a component from a prototype for a future iPhone, Apple is generally not expected to update its handset until late 2013, or about a year after the launch of the iPhone 5.
post #2 of 53

Early start to the next set of rumors, eh? 

 

Well, good. We haven't had any at all in a while. I'm realizing there was a void there, now that it isn't.

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post #3 of 53
Well, it could just be a tweak to simplify iP5 manufacturing and not a 5S.
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Originally Posted by patsu View Post
Well, it could just be a tweak to simplify iP5 manufacturing and not a 5S.

 

I thought the same thing. They do have two models now. Perhaps they're trying for one.

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4, 4S is not long for this world as it has OLD 30 pin connection. They need to get everything to new connector ASAP.  ipads are done. 

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Internal adaptations for China Mobile? Their radios might require an altered internal arrangement.
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Originally Posted by fuji apple View Post
4, 4S is not long for this world as it has OLD 30 pin connection. They need to get everything to new connector ASAP.  ipads are done. 

 

Huh?

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post #8 of 53
Oh god, is it that time already?
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Yeah, I'd wonder if its not an iPhone 5S but an iPhone 5T, where the T is for TD-SCDMA for China Mobile.

The problem going forward is that Apple is going to have to run multiple models of phones for the indefinite future. Until CDMA networks worldwide shut down there will be CDMA/GSM divides. And given the disparate number of frequencies used worldwide for LTE (600, 700L, 700U, 800, 1800, PCS, AWS, WCS, 2.6GHz) you cant make one phone that works on all those frequencies. Its going to require multiple models.
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Only in the Apple world would the movement of screw placement on the PCB be a news event.  :P

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or thats an old prototype iphone 5....?
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Internal adaptations for China Mobile? Their radios might require an altered internal arrangement.


This was my first thought too, but would China Mobile phones still have FCC identification on them? Isn't the network technology incompatible? On the other hand, there is probably a need for an ID if these phones ever made it into the US by travelers regardless if the phone would work or not. Anyone have more info on how a China Mobile phones work in the US?

post #13 of 53

it could be many things.  Here's my list of most likely scenarios.

 

  • Like most have said, it could be a manufacturing tweak.  This also happened when the iPhone 4 for Verizon was launched.  And since Apple has launched the iPhone in China this month, it's very likely this part is the Chinese and other markets iPhone, they just make some tweaks for whatever reason...and said tweaks could venture over to the rest of the world production as well.  Auto Manufacturers do this also.
  • It could be the future so-called iPhone 5s, but it does seem a bit early for that.
  • If Gene Munster is right (which I usually think his "predictions" are bull-shit, stock influencing) this could very well be an iPhone 5s set to launch in March.  The idiot Munster believes Apple will go to a 6-month product cycle on the iPhone due to increased competition and creeping market share from Android.  However he "predicts" this won't happen until 2015.  He also believes Apple will produce a "Contract-Free, Unlocked" iPhone for sub-$200 in 2015 as well.  To me that's bull-shit IMO since I'm quite sure Apple's margins are inflated slightly because they know the Cell-phone companies will fork over the cash for subsidies.  For what other reason is there to offer an unlocked iPhone 4 for $450 knowing ATT will offer it for free?  That's all profit for Apple.
  • This is a prototype of the iPhone 5 that got tweaked to what we currently have.
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Originally Posted by fuji apple View Post

4, 4S is not long for this world as it has OLD 30 pin connection. They need to get everything to new connector ASAP.  ipads are done. 

except for the iPad 2...

however, I kind of hope they update the iPad 2 to match the iPad mini design and brand it the iPad Air.  That would fit in comparison to the Macbook line as well.

Offer the Retina iPad as the Premium (Pro if you will) and the Air as the slim/trim/lighter full-sized iPad, and the Mini.  I hope this happens but It's probably unlikely, but it would make sense for people like me that want a lighter 10" iPad, but don't really care if it's retina or not.

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I feel that we are missing something in this picture though. Maybe I am seeing things and maybe my wishes for future capabilities are making me see this. But there is a spiral design in the casing just under the purple box. Could this be the location of an NFC antenna? Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post
however, I kind of hope they update the iPad 2…

 

They did. They were called the iPad 3 and iPad 4.


…to match the iPad mini design and brand it the iPad Air.

 

WHY.


That would fit in comparison to the Macbook line as well.

 

Why should a tablet line match a laptop line?


I hope this happens but It's probably unlikely, but it would make sense for people like me that want a lighter 10" iPad, but don't really care if it's retina or not.

…So just buy the iPad 2! 😩


Originally Posted by davion3052 View Post
But there is a spiral design in the casing just under the purple box.

 

That's just how the aluminum is cut, right? Nothing to do with NFC.

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Well, it could just be a tweak to simplify iP5 manufacturing and not a 5S.

That is exactly what I thought. Looks like a cost reduction and simplification to integrate those connectors onto the two boards.
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Well, it could just be a tweak to simplify iP5 manufacturing and not a 5S.

That's definitely a possibility. I came across this article that agrees with what you say;

 

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/12/apples-new-in-cell-displays-may-be-root-of-production-problems.html

 

This is all speculation of course but still interesting.

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Speaking of the iPhone 5, I had a hands-on recently with it and I must say that I was totally blown away. The phone is a work of art and looks really classy. No picture can do justice to actually seeing the thing. I compared it with my 4S and loved what I saw.

 

I have been waiting for the 64GB to come into stock. I had asked for the White one, but after my hands-on, I have requested they hold the Black one for me. I just can't wait!

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Speaking of the iPhone 5, I had a hands-on recently with it and I must say that I was totally blown away. The phone is a work of art and looks really classy. No picture can do justice to actually seeing the thing. I compared it with my 4S and loved what I saw.

 

I have been waiting for the 64GB to come into stock. I had asked for the White one, but after my hands-on, I have requested they hold the Black one for me. I just can't wait!

"The phone is a work of art..."

 

Yes it is.

post #21 of 53
I agree that this is not news. I would comment that Apple has switched to a semi annual refresh due to competition from Samsung's newest phones. Apple let Samsung take away market share by not offering a semi annual update. I doubt they will make that mistake again.

The iPad refresh was the first example of this. I expect the cell phones to follow.
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Awaiting the inevitable "I love Apple, but..." post.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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post #23 of 53
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Originally Posted by fuji apple View Post

4, 4S is not long for this world as it has OLD 30 pin connection. They need to get everything to new connector ASAP.  ipads are done. 

 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

Huh?

 

I think he means "iPads are completed - they now have the new connector". 

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Originally Posted by BestKeptSecret View Post

Speaking of the iPhone 5, I had a hands-on recently with it and I must say that I was totally blown away. The phone is a work of art and looks really classy. No picture can do justice to actually seeing the thing. I compared it with my 4S and loved what I saw.

 

I have been waiting for the 64GB to come into stock. I had asked for the White one, but after my hands-on, I have requested they hold the Black one for me. I just can't wait!

 

Yep.  I grew quite used to my 4s and while it was an iPhone, it wasn't very sexy after a week or so.  Nuts as I may be, I carry my iP 5 naked, and STILL everyday i admire how sleek it looks.  It's beautiful!

post #25 of 53

Noooooope. This is the samsung  Galaxy 5GS

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I agree that this is not news. I would comment that Apple has switched to a semi annual refresh due to competition from Samsung's newest phones. Apple let Samsung take away market share by not offering a semi annual update. I doubt they will make that mistake again.
The iPad refresh was the first example of this. I expect the cell phones to follow.

I'd like to agree with you but I just don't see how Apple can do it.  It took 3 months to get orders down to a 2-4 day shipping window on the 5.

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Only in the Apple world would the movement of screw placement on the PCB be a news event.  :P

Best post! :)

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Hi All in looking at my new iPhone 5 that I reveiced this week...It has the same X as in your picture. Other many want to look at their new phones for the X.

Have a Great Day

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I think he means "iPads are completed - they now have the new connector". 
Except the iPads aren't completed. Only the 4 has a new connector. Not the 2. How is that any different than the 4 and 4S not having one?

The 4 and 4S arent long for the world. Just 1 and 2 years. Actually, I guess the 5 isn't either... It's only 3 years. (Why do people make posts that make zero sense? Looking at you Fuji)

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They did. They were called the iPad 3 and iPad 4
No they weren't

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Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post
I think he means "iPads are completed - they now have the new connector". 

 

Oh. They're not, though.


Originally Posted by Andysol View Post
No they weren't


Okay. The iPad 2 didn't have any successor products. It's still the newest iPad. 1rolleyes.gif

 

There's a reason it doesn't match the iPad mini. And why on Earth would they update an old model when there's already an update.

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Originally Posted by fuji apple View Post

4, 4S is not long for this world as it has OLD 30 pin connection. They need to get everything to new connector ASAP.  ipads are done. 

I'm skeptical that Apple is going to stop offering both the 4 and 4S on the next update. That suggests that the 5 will be cut in price by $200 on the next update. I suppose they could do it, but the likelihood seems low.
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I'm skeptical that Apple is going to stop offering both the 4 and 4S on the next update. That suggests that the 5 will be cut in price by $200 on the next update. I suppose they could do it, but the likelihood seems low.

I don't know about the 4S but it's time to ditch the 4, if for no other reason that it's a single-core processor. All devices are going multi-core.  Maybe next year, Apple could sell the 4S as a prepaid device.

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Originally Posted by Shameer Mulji View Post
…it's time to ditch the 4, if for no other reason that it's a single-core processor.

 

So what? That's not a valid reason.


…Apple could sell the 4S as a prepaid device.

 

That's not for them to decide.

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Except the iPads aren't completed. Only the 4 has a new connector. Not the 2. How is that any different than the 4 and 4S not having one?...

 

You aren't making much sense here.  Both the iPad 2, and the iPhone 4/4s are obsolete devices.  

Their "updates" (that you seem to be waiting for), have already happened.  They are called the iPad mini/3/4 and the iPhone 5.  

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I don't know about the 4S but it's time to ditch the 4, if for no other reason that it's a single-core processor. All devices are going multi-core.  Maybe next year, Apple could sell the 4S as a prepaid device.

I'm sure they'll ditch it... next fall.
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If there is a god, please let this not be the start of 6 months of relentless iphone  5S part leaks.

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Ok there's going to be a IPhone 5S it will release 2013 it will be faster, and there's going to be rumors, well they could wait till same year as release date and have info, this could be just a future 5, or maybe one of the old released IPhone 5 rumors that was almost accurate. I like to think wait 6 months before complaining about IPhone 5 .
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Originally Posted by fuji apple View Post

4, 4S is not long for this world as it has OLD 30 pin connection. They need to get everything to new connector ASAP.  ipads are done. 

Excuse me, but why do they *NEED* to get everyone to use the new connector? What can it do that the 30-pin connector can't? I can tell you something it can't do and the 30-pin connector can: stream composite / component AV.
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Except the iPads aren't completed. Only the 4 has a new connector. Not the 2. How is that any different than the 4 and 4S not having one?
The 4 and 4S arent long for the world. Just 1 and 2 years. Actually, I guess the 5 isn't either... It's only 3 years. (Why do people make posts that make zero sense? Looking at you Fuji)

 

Why would the iPad 2 get the lightning connector?
 
The new connector was only every going to be for new products. The new iPod, iPad and iPhone. Could you imagine how bad it would look if they moved all the old products onto the new connector then everyone who resented the temporary inconvenince ran around fighting over dwindling stocks of the "old, better" models.
 

The iPad 2 is now only in the lineup to bridge the steep price gap between iPad mini and iPad 4. The iPad mini does everything an iPad 2 ever could (and more) for less. Nevertheless, it will continue to be bought by mostly older people who just want to purchase their first iPad, find the mini "too fiddly", don't know the iPad 3 is still available and can't appreciate the awesome value of the retina display. 

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