Originally Posted by Mazda 3s
I sure as hell don't want that. You can keep that crap!
When I watch TV, I'm there to enjoy it with my wife and my son. I don't want some ticker running across the screen or to be chatting with other people while I'm watching the program -- it's a stupid distraction. My wife is right there, I'll chat and laugh with her as we watch the Big Bang Theory or one of our other favorite programs. We don't see each other all day, so our time to bond is at home at the dinner table, and sitting on the couch/snuggling in bed watching our favorite programs.
I guess my point is, everything doesn't have to be "social".
I second this notion...but replace "son" with cats.
I'm one that just wants something that I can veg-out on. I don't need Facebook, Email, Twitter, etc. on my TV. That's what the iPad is for. The suppliment to watching TV. Now-a-days, it's me, my girlfriend, the cats, TV and our iPads.
But, here's my wish-list of things they could add should it be a full TV set they introduce (but not my preference):
1. Facetime on the TV.
2. TV Network Apps with in-App purchases of additional Channels at Monthly rates. (i.e. NBC is a free to watch but Bravo costs 0.99$/mo.)
3. Control over every INPUT from the ATV UI.
4. DVR UI
About this debate between a display or a STB...my long-winded option
Personally, I see it as a STB. The experts have already shown enough proof the TV market is really not a big enough market for Apple to really make sweeping changes in. A full monitor is pointless if you still have to plug-in components (I.e. cable, HT audio, BD, etc...) and for Apple to spend R&D on integrating all those technologies into a device that would make a marginal impact on the TV market would be a waste of time and resources.
Where Apple will tackle this market it in control. My crappy Motorola STB cable remote already has the capability to control all my HT devices. If Apple could do this, they wouldn't need a full Apple 42"-55" TV. If they could just reinvent the ATV home screen to become more customized to your existing components...and have the ability to fully utilize their functionalities, then you'd have something. And at $99, you'd have a totally new experience controlled entirely from the ATV. You need to calibrate your monitor, ATV does it. You want to play a BD? There an app for that. Watch live or recorded TV? Another home screen App. The Interface is what will make the new ATV popular. It will make the TV experience easier.
What is the future I'd Apps for ATV? I don't know but I'm thinking it will be as paid subscriptions. You want NBC? Their App could be free for basic over-air programming, but cost you $X.99/mo. per extra channel, like app add-ons. Frankly, I'm not sure why this idea hasn't already been initiated. I guess that might be closer to the equivalent of Hulu+. However, what really pisses me off about Hulu is that current episodes have a time window of viewing before they become "expired" and don't return until who-knows-when, prolly after the BD comes out for the season. That's the one drawback to Hulu, and that the entire catalog of each network is not available on Hulu. They have BBC America, but not Doctor Who, or Top Gear or any other top show they have. Hulu is nice for $8/mo. But has drawbacks.
Still not a 1:1 to traditional cable. Apple needs to rival cable in some way to be viable at all in this market. They can't do it on hardware alone, or just in software and/or services. And hardware would be pointless, since price will drive sales 99.99% of the time in this market. so why not tackle the software/UI and services? And sell millions more $99 STBs instead? You'd get a lot more users on a cheap box with great services and UI than an expensive panel that may look and function great, but has no user base because its out of most user's price point.
and here's something i incorrectly posted on another thread that's more relevant to this thread:
That being said. I think the future of consumer computing (at least for multi-user households) will be a device that marries the Mac Mini with the Apple TV and the Airport Extreme, all in one device. This could be accessed by the TV, a laptop or a dumb terminal, and/or an iDevice. More and More people are moving way from the home office an into other parts of the house with computers, making the traditional desk less and less relevant and desirable. The future is going to be more of a home server that stores all your date (along with iCloud, of course) but can be accessed remotely from any device in Apple's ecosystem.
Many might say this is already achievable in the Mac Mini server...I say not quite. It's still another OSX device you have to manage. My vision is much simpler. More like a iPad server that much more powerful, but scores easier to use. It's UI could adapt to whatever device you're accessing it from, unlike the Mac Mini that's strictly OSX-based. Why not create a device that works with your devices, rather than the devices having to conform to it? I don't see it as another computer to manage, more so a storage and access point from multiple sources and adapts to those UI's.
For the general public, most people use computers for 3 primary uses:
- Content consumption and Entertainment (i.e. games, music, video)
- Internet, email and communications (i.e. mail, messages, safari, Facetime)
- Content creation (i.e. iWork suite)
Apple already has all the software they need to achieve these things. The problem is that all three have an ideal UI/iDevice that work with them best.
Content consumption = iDevice or TV
Internet, Email & Communicaitons = iDevice/Laptop
Content Creation = Laptop/Desktop
So IMO, seeing as there is not longer a need for a single device to do all these basic things most people use a computer for, why not create a device that works with all your different UI's but puts the brains of it all in a central location? Let's take home sharing to the next level.