Apple's recent executive shakeup was about 'collaboration,' Tim Cook says - Page 2

history proves you wrong in so many ways.  Some of the most brilliant designers in history were not trained in their specified field, and many went on to do innovative work in other fields of design as well.

 

Look at Frank Lloyd Wright.  Some call him the "Greatest American Architect".  He was self taught and designed some of the most innovative and creative work of his breed.  He designed buildings, but also 2D art as well, like wall hangings, stained glass, rugs, and various other graphic arts.  He also design furniture and even table settings.

 

Look at the Eames'.  Charles was an architect by training, but went on to design some of the most innovative furniture in the 20th century.   His group also did film and games and home accessories and Graphic design.

 

It takes a special type of Eye for design to make a truly great designer, one that can think about design from every genre.  I have no doubt Team Ives has that talent. Not to mention 20 years nearly of experience leading and collaborating at Apple.  I have no doubt he will be great.

Tim realizes, like the Auto Industry that manufacturing is best served in a globally distributed arrangement with local presence in your major regions of sales.

 

That may be true in the automobile industry where you have three things that are quite different from Apple's industry:

 

1. A product that is much larger and more expensive to transport.
2. A product that is often much more tuned to local markets for cultural as well as regulatory reasons.
3. A product that is often subject to various tariffs and import restrictions.

Is it true that collaboration fosters innovation?

 

Historically, the really groundbreaking innovation has come from individuals. Turning such innovations into products is where teamwork is critical

Is auto manufacturing really best served by local presence? What if there was no legal requirement to have XX% of a car made in the US? Do you think Honda, Toyota, etc. would have so many factories here? Sure, shipping costs are a factor. But it doesn't cost much to ship from Central America.

Ok

Number 3 definitely applied to Apple's industry in Brazil.

My guesses Cook is referring more to not allowing fiefdoms or silos at the top. Perhaps Forstall was like Sinofsky trying to create an iOS empire whether it benefited Apple as whole or not. But my guess is he was just abrasive and didn't get along with Cook or the other execs. Maybe he felt he should've been top dog because he was the leader behind iOS and iPhone/iPad are Apple's biggest products. But it seems to me if Steve felt that way he would've recommended Forstall replace him, not Cook.

OMG Steve Jobs spoke at D like 4 times while CEO, not to mention dozens of interviews over the years with mainstream media, and collaborating with a biographer! And you think Tim Cook is talking too much?

 

Understood. And this might become more widespread. Governments hate freedom after all. But this is the exception to the rule at this point in time. Certainly as compared with the auto industry.

 

I think that's a weird picture. That comment doesn't fit in anywhere else, but I guess one could make the connection that the less he talks, the fewer pictures are taken of him. 

Tim said something interesting in this Bloomberg interview:

"That’s a part of our base principle, that we will only do a few things. And we’ll only do things where we can make a significant contribution I don’t mean financially. I mean some significant contribution to the society at large. You know, we want to really enrich people’s lives at the end of the day, not just make money. Making money might be a byproduct, but it’s not our North Star."

I remember when Jony Ive said something similar earlier this year (basically that Apple was about making great products and if people like them and buy them then Apple will make money). At the time he said it people laughed and said it was a ridiculous statement. Well, well, well here we have Tim Cook basically saying the same thing. Though I suppose some will laugh at Cook too thinking all Apple cares about is making boatloads of money,

 

But... but... but... Tallest insists that Apple doesn't CARE about the stock price.

 

What's your point? They've specifically stated this on more than one occasion. If you have any reason to believe they expressly care about the stock price to the detriment of the products they sell, feel free to present it. Otherwise there's not much point in what you've said here.

 

Please see the post to which I responded. The point is perfectly clear. Over and out.

Gazoobee, you need to relax. I'm sure Ive is part of the team not the designer of software.

Something very fishy about Tim Cook recently.

 

What would THAT be, exactly?

 

... because you either already have a job, or a spouse/partner who has one, or are independently wealthy — but a lot of people need jobs to live. And thus the idea of creating more work in America is not some kind of "fetish" that people have, but a serious daily need for their survival and a means of helping to improve the overall economy.

 

It is the height of myopic self-interest to not understand that, and to be so utterly unsympathetic to people who are unemployed, simply because you personally don't need a job (right now). Some day you could need one, and not be able to find it (especially if you were born in 1970), because of people like yourself who don't care about the plight of others. Then we'll see whether "bringing jobs here" is of any concern to you ...

 

Not in the United States.

 

Ive is taking over MANAGEMENT of software design not designing the software. Neither did Jobs. Good taste is what a good designer brings to the table. Of course, I also suspect he personally didn't design the 3D either. Early on, yes, but he has been managing that design group and asking the questions, pushing, etc. I see no problem here.

 

Stop this nonsense already.

 

 

 

Including me.

 

 

 

No the fetish is about specific kinds of jobs, in this case manufacturing jobs. There are tons of jobs in the US.

 

 

 

I do understand. I'm not unsympathetic to those who are unemployed. My position has nothing to do whether I currently have a job or not. 

 

Your analysis is quite simplistic, superficial and short-sighted.

 

 

 

If I can't find a job it will be not be for these reasons.

I reckon Jony Ive can still do some mean stuff a few hours hands-on in front of the computer using his favourite 3D program.