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In time for the lucrative holiday shopping season, a number of international Online Apple Stores, including the U.S. and Canada, are showing immediate availability of the company's newest iPhone 5.

iPhone 5 in Stock
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After weeks delayed shipment times due to severe supply constraints, some Online Apple Stores are now listing the iPhone 5 as being "In Stock," suggesting supply is finally catching up to demand.

The most recent update in shipment times, first spotted by MacRumors, is the first time Apple's handset has been in stock since launching in September. Demand for the new iPhone was so high that sales topped five million units over the device's first weekend of availability, exhausting the company's initial supply.

"Demand for iPhone 5 has been incredible and we are working hard to get an iPhone 5 into the hands of every customer who wants one as quickly as possible," Apple CEO Tim Cook said at the time.

Ship-by times have been slowly improving over the past month as Apple's online storefront quoted two to three week delivery times in mid-November, which improved to two weeks by the end of the month.

Apple is scheduled to start iPhone 5 sales in China next week and demand looks to be strong as the nation's second-largest carrier recorded over 100,000 reservations just hours after the device went up for preorder on Dec. 4.

Friday's news comes about a week after most U.S. brick-and-mortar Apple Stores were reported to have all versions of the handset on hand.
post #2 of 25
The 5 is just the right size to make a nice stocking stuffer!

Nice timing Mr. Cook.
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While this is the season to be jolly, watch what a magician can do with a iPad...

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-magic-tricks-2012-12

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And some clown on CNBC today spun this as a negative claiming it means the demand is soft. Oh, ok. So having it out of stock and not available for Christmas would be better. 1oyvey.gif Yet these same clowns upped their sales target and are now saying anything less than 50M iPhones sold in the quarter will be failure. 1rolleyes.gif
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iPhone 5 is in stock: soft demand!  Sell the stock!  Apple is doomed!

 

iPhone 5 is not in stock: supply chain problems!  Sell the stock!  Apple is doomed!

 

Apple is selling zillions of phones: but they may not sell next year!  Stock goes down!  Apple is doomed!

 

Fiscal Cliff!  End of the World!  

 

Maybe the Mayans were right about 2012 being the end of the world after all.  And the cause of the crash of humanity will be human hysteria and irrational panic lol.

 

The only thing that survives is Amazon.  They lose money on every Kindle, they have a P/E of 10,000, and still they will survive the Appleocalypse like cockroaches haha.

 

Happy December 7.  512ke :)

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Apple had a full year of nearly 100% adulation from the business press.  Now, it is fashionable to dump on the company without the slightest shred of evidence.  As an example, this week's iPad Mini launch in China, strictly controlled via an advance lottery purchase system, succeeded in maintaining order at China based stores.  This was spun into a negative - demand must be weak, no glass doors were shattered, and no fights broke out.  Ditto for the U.S. launch - $329 is a disappointing entry price, it must be lower to compete against clones.  In reality, demand is so high that supply is only now catching up.  Still, the press reports the incredible progress and achievements of Apple in a negative way.

 

Sounds like a buying opportunity to me.

 

Watch for a "beat" the fourth week of January!

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Originally Posted by RFHJr View Post
Apple had a full year of nearly 100% adulation from the business press.

 

When was this?

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

When was this?

Looking back, it seems there was a time when Apple got at least some good press. Now it is absolutely pathological.

I'm thinking that Americans have something like a death wish when it comes to any entity that succeeds. Mediocrity voodoo.

It's weird, and needs to be analyzed. Some of my oldest friends have gone over to the Dark Side.
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Originally Posted by RFHJr View Post

Apple had a full year of nearly 100% adulation from the business press.  Now, it is fashionable to dump on the company without the slightest shred of evidence.  As an example, this week's iPad Mini launch in China, strictly controlled via an advance lottery purchase system, succeeded in maintaining order at China based stores.  This was spun into a negative - demand must be weak, no glass doors were shattered, and no fights broke out.  Ditto for the U.S. launch - $329 is a disappointing entry price, it must be lower to compete against clones.  In reality, demand is so high that supply is only now catching up.  Still, the press reports the incredible progress and achievements of Apple in a negative way.

Sounds like a buying opportunity to me.

Watch for a "beat" the fourth week of January!
It's actually getting quite ridiculous the level of negativity. I swear Apple could find a cure for cancer and the media would find a way to spin it as negative.
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iPhone 5 is in stock: soft demand!  Sell the stock!  Apple is doomed!

 

iPhone 5 is not in stock: supply chain problems!  Sell the stock!  Apple is doomed!

 

Apple is selling zillions of phones: but they may not sell next year!  Stock goes down!  Apple is doomed!

 

Fiscal Cliff!  End of the World!  

 

Maybe the Mayans were right about 2012 being the end of the world after all.  And the cause of the crash of humanity will be human hysteria and irrational panic lol.

 

The only thing that survives is Amazon.  They lose money on every Kindle, they have a P/E of 10,000, and still they will survive the Appleocalypse like cockroaches haha.

 

Happy December 7.  512ke :)

"Maybe the Mayans were right about 2012 being the end of the world after all."

 

Judging by all the pathological negative press Apple's been getting recently, it's definitely the end of reason, logic, & common sense.

post #11 of 25
The volume Apple trades compared to other stocks with high share prices is ridiculous. If you look at stocks with a current share price over $200 there are only 3 companies where the average volume is 1M or greater:

Apple - 25M
Amazon - 3.7M
Google - 2.1M

If you look at share price of all stocks with an average volume of 20M or more, Apple's on top with $533 share price. Second on the list is an ETF with a share price of $65. Third is JP Morgan with a share price of $42.

This might sound silly but part of me is hoping this selloff Is getting people out of the stock that maybe should never have been in it in the first place. These wild swings don't seem normal and often times don't appear to be based on the fundamentals of the company. This week analysts were scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to figure out why the stock dropped 9%. No none downgraded the stock, there were no quarterly sales estimates revised downwards. In fact the analysts on CNBC are expecting 50M iPhone sales. So aside from fiscal cliff concerns, what's gives? Stock manipulation?
post #12 of 25
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international Online Apple Stores

What is an "international Online Apple Store"?

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The volume Apple trades compared to other stocks with high share prices is ridiculous. If you look at stocks with a current share price over $200 there are only 3 companies where the average volume is 1M or greater:

Apple - 25M
Amazon - 3.7M
Google - 2.1M

If you look at share price of all stocks with an average volume of 20M or more, Apple's on top with $533 share price. Second on the list is an ETF with a share price of $65. Third is JP Morgan with a share price of $42.

This might sound silly but part of me is hoping this selloff Is getting people out of the stock that maybe should never have been in it in the first place. These wild swings don't seem normal and often times don't appear to be based on the fundamentals of the company. This week analysts were scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to figure out why the stock dropped 9%. No none downgraded the stock, there were no quarterly sales estimates revised downwards. In fact the analysts on CNBC are expecting 50M iPhone sales. So aside from fiscal cliff concerns, what's gives? Stock manipulation?

Because of its volatility, AAPL is popular among day traders. A significant proportion of the daily volume is the same shares being sold multiple times.
Apple options are also heavily traded, and market makers trade the stock to hedge the option positions they support.
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Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post
I'm thinking that Americans have something like a death wish when it comes to any entity that succeeds. Mediocrity voodoo. It's weird, and needs to be analyzed. Some of my oldest friends have gone over to the Dark Side.


Our outlook has changed in the past few decades. Success used to be an aspiration. Now it's something that deserves (yes, deserves, in their mind) punishment.

 

Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post
What is an "international Online Apple Store"?

 

store.apple.com/uk, store.apple.com/ru, store.apple.com/fr…


Edited by Tallest Skil - 12/8/12 at 9:01am

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


Our outlook has changed in the past few decades. Success used to be an aspiration. Now it's something that deserves (yes, deserves, in their mind) punishment.

True, and the curious thing is that the anti-success, anti-Apple crowd is heavily represented on Wall Street-type blogs, Microsoft-oriented blogs, gadget blogs, etc., none of which are particularly anti-corporate per se, or fitting the liberal stereotype.

I'm thinking that people who are adapted to chaos and incompetence, as in Wall Street and Microsoft for examples, are personally threatened by the kind of success that comes from Apple's order and competence.

It's the terror of the older obsolete species when confronted with the newly evolved next species that will leave them behind and irrelevant.
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Because of its volatility, AAPL is popular among day traders. A significant proportion of the daily volume is the same shares being sold multiple times.
Apple options are also heavily traded, and market makers trade the stock to hedge the option positions they support.
Ok so basically the stockis heavily manipulated by things that have nothing to do with the fundamentals of the company, I mean there was zero news last week on the fundamentals of the company that would cause a 9% drop in the stock. The closest one could come to was Apple not yet having a deal with China Mobile. But even that isn't worthy of a 9% drop in my mind.
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True, and the curious thing is that the anti-success, anti-Apple crowd is heavily represented on Wall Street-type blogs, Microsoft-oriented blogs, gadget blogs, etc., none of which are particularly anti-corporate per se, or fitting the liberal stereotype.
I'm thinking that people who are adapted to chaos and incompetence, as in Wall Street and Microsoft for examples, are personally threatened by the kind of success that comes from Apple's order and competence.
It's the terror of the older obsolete species when confronted with the newly evolved next species that will leave them behind and irrelevant.
Seems to me people like kicking someone/something when it's down (or perceived to be down). The fashionable thing right now is to dump on Apple, proclaim its best days are behind it with Steve Jobs death. And push this meme that there is no innovation coming from Apple. When quite honestly what are other companies doing that's do much more innovative than Apple? Bigger screens to me aren't necessarily innovation. Windows 8/RT might be innovative but these devices aren't really flying off the shelves.

I was at a conference last month and Malcolm Gladwell gave a keynote speech. In it he talked about practical innovation and used Apple as an example of it. Arguing that Apple wasn't necessarily first at a lot of things but that was OK because what they eventually came out with was so right in so many ways. I see a lot of what other tech companies are doing as gimmicky; throw something at the wall and see what sticks. To me that's not Apple's MO. Unfortunately the former is viewed as innovation while the latter is viewed as running out of ideas, being a one trick pony etc.
post #18 of 25
People are only criticising when stuff doesn't live up to the hype. "The most beautiful maps" bs, IOS6 being a downgrade for many people, "just works" not just working for many people. If Apple want to charge a premium price, they can expect people to want premium service and performance.
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People are only criticising when stuff doesn't live up to the hype.

If only that were true.
post #20 of 25
Well I guess the sold out phase is over meaning that most that do sell are sold(up to 50%)but Christmas is hitting so probably up to 30% will sell in next 30 days. But it's life is still new, Is there a possibility of them being sold out again if Christmas sales are high.
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People are only criticising when stuff doesn't live up to the hype. "The most beautiful maps" bs, IOS6 being a downgrade for many people, "just works" not just working for many people. If Apple want to charge a premium price, they can expect people to want premium service and performance.

If you read the text of the Maps portion of the initial iPhone 5 page on the Apple web site, it said:

"may just be the most beautiful, powerful mapping solution ever..." - my formatting.

Note the "may just be" - it is conditional, not absolute. I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone else comment on this. It stuck out at the time (before the iOS6/maps release) and I wondered - at the time - why they put it like that. I don't think that it was coincidental: it does create an ambiguity and could be said to let Apple off the hook.

On the other hand, what the text might have implied on a less careful reading (people reading into it what they wanted to read into it) seems to have been a totally different bucket o' snakes (and quite venomous ones as it turns out). Caveat Lector.

On the subject of availability of stuff on the Apple online shop, I notice that the 27" iMac availability on the Oz site (http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac) currently (9 december '12) says "Shipping: January"...
Edited by AlexN - 12/8/12 at 8:03pm
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If you read the text of the Maps portion of the initial iPhone 5 page on the Apple web site, it said:
"may just be the most beautiful, powerful mapping solution ever..." - my formatting.
Note the "may just be" - it is conditional, not absolute. I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone else comment on this. It stuck out at the time (before the iOS6/maps release) and I wondered - at the time - why they put it like that. I don't think that it was coincidental: it does create an ambiguity and could be said to let Apple off the hook.
On the other hand, what the text might have implied on a less careful reading (people reading into it what they wanted to read into it) seems to have been a totally different bucket o' snakes (and quite venomous ones as it turns out). Caveat Lector.
On the subject of availability of stuff on the Apple online shop, I notice that the 27" iMac availability on the Oz site (http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac) currently (9 december '12) says "Shipping: January"...

Sure, they use that a lot. Steve Jobs stated that "we think the current crop of 7-inch tablets are going to be DOA." That not only makes it an opinion but makes it conditional to those 7" tablets, not all 7", or rather, non-9.7", tablets that may appear at some other time. Apple also had the Get A Mac ad where they said they don't suffer form any of the viruses that plague Windows. Even if there was malware that was present on all OSes that supported Flash and/or Java it's still not necessarily a virus and still not 'a' Windows virus (or malware).

That said, I think Apple oversold their Maps during the iOS 6 presentation. They had no choice but to release this year but I think they would have been better served by acknowledging that this is new and there will be some growing pains. In this case I think it would have been fine to acknowledge you competitor's product and why you can't continue to license from them because they won't allow TbT or vector mapping without an excessive violation of your personal data as compensation. I think it would have kept iOS 6 Maps from being an issue people simply didn't see coming if they would have gotten out in front of it.

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It's the terror of the older obsolete species when confronted with the newly evolved next species that will leave them behind and irrelevant.

 

So all these iProducts should actually be X-Products?

 

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That would go a long way to possibly explaining OS X!

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That said, I think Apple oversold their Maps during the iOS 6 presentation. They had no choice but to release this year but I think they would have been better served by acknowledging that this is new and there will be some growing pains. In this case I think it would have been fine to acknowledge you competitor's product and why you can't continue to license from them because they won't allow TbT or vector mapping without an excessive violation of your personal data as compensation. I think it would have kept iOS 6 Maps from being an issue people simply didn't see coming if they would have gotten out in front of it.

I agree that Mr Forstall's presentation gave entirely wrong impression - especially for those who didn't/still don't even appear on the map! Forewarning would have been fore-arming and allowed people to cut them more slack, and to have explained the problems clearly upfront would have aided that in no small measure. But 'tis done.

I have to say from my own limited perspective in my own little corner of Sydney (and bits of Adelaide where the rest of the family are), however, that the new Maps has functioned without a hiccup since I installed the iOS6 update a few weeks ago.
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That said, I think Apple oversold their Maps during the iOS 6 presentation. They had no choice but to release this year but I think they would have been better served by acknowledging that this is new and there will be some growing pains. In this case I think it would have been fine to acknowledge you competitor's product and why you can't continue to license from them because they won't allow TbT or vector mapping without an excessive violation of your personal data as compensation. I think it would have kept iOS 6 Maps from being an issue people simply didn't see coming if they would have gotten out in front of it.
To mention Google in that way would've been a disaster. Then you would've had Eric Schmidt or whoever and claim ignorance, that they have no idea what Apple is talking about. I mean heck, just last week Schmidt was out there saying he didn't know why Apple removed the native YouTube app from iOS 6. It would've been a whole he said/he said thing with the tech blogs siding with Google, the media still nailing Apple for inferior maps and the public still unhappy because all they want is a fully functional maps app - they don't care about the politics between Apple and Google.

Having said that, I do agree with Jean Louis Gassee that Forstall over promised and under delivered. His demo was absolutely flawless and the app isn't. Of course he's going to make sure what ever he demos woks and looks good. But he could have cautioned that this is their first attempt at mapping and there' still lots of work to do, etc. Most importantly though, when Cook decided they needed to apologize he should have manned up and signed his name to the letter. Mansfield has no problem doing so when they backtracked on EPEAT certification. Who knows, has Forstall done this he might still have a job.
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