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A report from All Things D claims that the much anticipated Google Maps dedicated iOS app will be released sometime Wednesday night which, if true, would bring the internet search giant's mapping service back to Apple devices for the first time since it was deprecated in iOS 6.

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Google Maps data (left) versus same view in Apple's iOS Maps (right).


Citing people familiar with Google's efforts, All Things D said the company plans to roll out a dedicated app powered by its mapping service, though the publication failed to offer any further information.

Since Apple chose to cut ties with Google Maps in a move to its own proprietary solution, no real attempt has been made to bring the mapping service back to iOS. In October, a poorly built app based on Google's data was pulled from the App Store, but reviewers found the attempt to be woefully inadequate.

Google has been rumored to be working on a replacement and photos of the purported app have surfaced, but the company remains cagey about its intentions for iOS. Earlier in September, Google CEO Eric Schmidt dispelled rumors that claimed Apple was delaying the release of a standalone Google Maps app, saying that his company had "not done anything yet."

With iOS 6, Google also saw the removal of its YouTube app from the operating system's list of preinstalled software, though a replacement was issued soon after, suggesting a maps app may indeed be imminent.

Apple's mapping service has seen a fair amount of criticism, with users complaining of inaccurate location data, 3D Flyover image glitches and an overall lack of features they became accustomed to like Google Maps' Street View. On Monday, Australian police issued a statement to motorists driving to the city of Mildura, warning them not to use iOS Maps because the app had caused a number of travelers to become stranded in a remote area of a national park, which in turn prompted search and rescue operations.
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Curious if it will have turn by turn navigation. If not- outside of street view for the few that need it, it will be worse.

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post #3 of 42
I never found a very good replacement for public transit data, but otherwise, meh
post #4 of 42
If does not have turn by turn, not interested.
post #5 of 42

This is a win-win for Apple.

 

If Google Maps is very good then iOS now has a version of Google Maps that....

 

- Doesn't cost Apple a single penny for all those hits accessing Google's Maps API (which Apple would have had to pay had they built their own App and accessed Google Maps API).

- Apple doesn't have to hand over any user data at all to Google (which Google wanted) since Google now has to abide by the same rules all App developers do (and the same restrictions).

- Makes Apple look good by doing the exact opposite what the haters/fandroids are hoping for - that Apple bans Google Maps so they can continue to call Apple "evil" and "restricted".

 

In short, Apple gets the same type of Maps App that Android users have without having to do any work or pay any money.

 

 

 

If Google Maps sucks....

 

- Nobody can criticize Apple for dropping them to go their own way and try to come up with something better.

- Nobody can blame Apple for how bad Maps is since they no longer write the App - Google does.

- If turn-by-turn is missing then we know who is really responsible for leaving this out, and it isn't Apple.

 

Apple then has an opportunity to "fix" Apple Maps to show it as a viable alternative to Google Maps.

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post #6 of 42
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

Curious if it will have turn by turn navigation. If not- outside of street view for the few that need it, it will be worse.

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Originally Posted by maclancer View Post

If does not have turn by turn, not interested.

Funny how people forgot that the old Apple(Google) maps did NOT have turn-by-turn... so were the old maps really better? It depends on what you're looking for.

The old map app didn't have navigation... but it had lots of data.

I actually like the new Apple maps though... they've performed well for me so far. The built-in navigation works great... and it's pretty!

But I will also download the new Google maps. They will have a lot more POIs... StreetView if you're into that... and exit numbers!
post #7 of 42

It would be hilarious if not a single person downloaded this app EVER.

post #8 of 42

Not worth reporting. Tell us when it happens.

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post #9 of 42

I could not care less.  I don't need it.

I'll stick with Apple Maps.  Thank you.

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Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post

I could not care less.  I don't need it.
I'll stick with Apple Maps.  Thank you.
As will 95 % of iOS users. The fact that you can't select another map as system default will see to that.
post #11 of 42

If I try this app and it leads me in the wrong direction even just once I'll be staging a 'broken down vehicle' theatrical stunt out the front of Google headquarters.

 

Feel free to join me!

 

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post #12 of 42

Can't use them myself, but would much rather use Apple Maps anyway.

 

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…I'll be staging a 'broken down vehicle' theatrical stunt out the front of Google headquarters.

 

Sign says, "I used Google Maps and successfully made it here. Unfortunately, I wanted to go to the Apple Store."

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post #13 of 42

If it doesn't have turn-by-turn I don't think people will mind, it's the public transport integration that was the most useful, especially in places where there is no good equivalent.

 

However if Google release a map app that's as fluent as their search app with voice recognition, vector based like on Android, brings back the public transport option etc and also throws in turn by turn, I'm in.

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It would be hilarious if not a single person downloaded this app EVER.

 

I'll download, test, no turn by turn = one star review and deletion.

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post #15 of 42
Great!!

Just another option for users. I don't see how this could be seen as a negative in any way.
post #16 of 42

That's not the same view.. The Google view is zoomed out more. Jeez.  Can't they get the exact same view?

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Originally Posted by drblank View Post
That's not the same view.. The Google view is zoomed out more. Jeez.  Can't they get the exact same view?

 

The Apple view is zoomed out more.

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post #18 of 42
Never really used the Google map app for anything more than getting a quick lay of the land or checking traffic.

GPS apps are cheap and do a much better job of navigating. My favorite one is Magellan.
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Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee View Post

This is a win-win for Apple.

 

If Google Maps is very good then iOS now has a version of Google Maps that....

 

- Doesn't cost Apple a single penny for all those hits accessing Google's Maps API (which Apple would have had to pay had they built their own App and accessed Google Maps API).

- Apple doesn't have to hand over any user data at all to Google (which Google wanted) since Google now has to abide by the same rules all App developers do (and the same restrictions).

- Makes Apple look good by doing the exact opposite what the haters/fandroids are hoping for - that Apple bans Google Maps so they can continue to call Apple "evil" and "restricted".

 

In short, Apple gets the same type of Maps App that Android users have without having to do any work or pay any money.

 

 

 

If Google Maps sucks....

 

- Nobody can criticize Apple for dropping them to go their own way and try to come up with something better.

- Nobody can blame Apple for how bad Maps is since they no longer write the App - Google does.

- If turn-by-turn is missing then we know who is really responsible for leaving this out, and it isn't Apple.

 

Apple then has an opportunity to "fix" Apple Maps to show it as a viable alternative to Google Maps.

 

Nice post.

post #20 of 42
i concur, I use turn by turn several times a week. I hardly miss street view which I used maybe once a month.

Images above dont take into account that more information becomes visible as you zoom in on Apples Map. This is a design choice that the media often flames as lack of data.
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If I try this app and it leads me in the wrong direction even just once I'll be staging a 'broken down vehicle' theatrical stunt out the front of Google headquarters.
 

Marking an old dirt trail as a public road wasn't good enough for you?
post #22 of 42
95% will stick with Apple maps? Who are you fooling? Millions will download and use it on day one.
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Originally Posted by Lerxt View Post
95% will stick with Apple maps? Who are you fooling? Millions will download and use it on day one.

 

I'd say more than one but less than twenty thousand.

 

The proper question is whose approval are YOU trying to win by continuing to pretend stuff?

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95% will stick with Apple maps? Who are you fooling? Millions will download and use it on day one.

Sure, I'll download it (assuming it's free), give a once around, and then probably stick it on the last page of my apps. Does that mean it's somehow beaten Apple Maps because I was one of millions who downloaded it? I don't think so.

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post #25 of 42
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Funny how people forgot that the old Apple(Google) maps did NOT have turn-by-turn

You mean spoken turn-by-turn.

  • "Drive 362 m then turn left onto Jeffcott St
  • Drive 230 m then turn right onto Spencer St/State Route 50."

is pretty much turn-by-turn to me.

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The old map app didn't have navigation

What is "navigation"?

It gives me routes, shows me where to turn and where I am currently which is constantly updated.

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Marking an old dirt trail as a public road wasn't good enough for you?

 

Nah, I was fine with that.

 

But pulling a stunt showing a 4WD owner that brought:

 

Food

Water

Shelter (a tent)

Lighting (a lamp)

Seating

Various other supplies

 

...then trying to make out that the silly bastard driving this vehicle would rely on the first version of a brand new mapping system with no other form of navigation was...questionable.

 

Don't you think?

 

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post #27 of 42
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I never found a very good replacement for public transit data, but otherwise, meh

 

TripView Sydney is the best app I have ever used. Excellent UI. Takes seconds to crunch complex data across three transport modes. I have managed to reconnect with a just missed train several times because of this app.

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Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post

I could not care less.  I don't need it.

I'll stick with Apple Maps.  Thank you.

 

So you don't mind the GPS misreporting your position by two or three hundred metres? Personally I prefer honing in somewhat closer than just sorta within a city block or so. :)

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So you don't mind the GPS misreporting your position by two or three hundred metres? Personally I prefer honing in somewhat closer than just sorta within a city block or so. 1smile.gif

So now you're claiming the GPS HW is faulty in the iPhone and iPad that it would "misreport[...] your position by two or three hundred metres"? Do you have any proof of that?

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post #30 of 42
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You mean spoken turn-by-turn.
  • "Drive 362 m then turn left onto Jeffcott St
  • Drive 230 m then turn right onto Spencer St/State Route 50."
is pretty much turn-by-turn to me.

What is "navigation"?
It gives me routes, shows me where to turn and where I am currently which is constantly updated.

Yes... I meant spoken turn-by-turn navigation.

Thank you for clearing that up.
post #31 of 42

Just downloaded it from the Canadian store!

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So now you're claiming the GPS HW is faulty in the iPhone and iPad that it would "misreport[...] your position by two or three hundred metres"? Do you have any proof of that?

That's also something that a google maps app wouldn't be able to fix either. Just an odd statement 

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Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee View Post

This is a win-win for Apple.

 

If Google Maps is very good then iOS now has a version of Google Maps that....

 

- Doesn't cost Apple a single penny for all those hits accessing Google's Maps API (which Apple would have had to pay had they built their own App and accessed Google Maps API).

- Apple doesn't have to hand over any user data at all to Google (which Google wanted) since Google now has to abide by the same rules all App developers do (and the same restrictions).

- Makes Apple look good by doing the exact opposite what the haters/fandroids are hoping for - that Apple bans Google Maps so they can continue to call Apple "evil" and "restricted".

 

In short, Apple gets the same type of Maps App that Android users have without having to do any work or pay any money.

 

 

 

If Google Maps sucks....

 

- Nobody can criticize Apple for dropping them to go their own way and try to come up with something better.

- Nobody can blame Apple for how bad Maps is since they no longer write the App - Google does.

- If turn-by-turn is missing then we know who is really responsible for leaving this out, and it isn't Apple.

 

Apple then has an opportunity to "fix" Apple Maps to show it as a viable alternative to Google Maps.

 

 

Somebody who understands. Google bringing a map application to iOS is a win win for everybody whether the Google App sucks or is good. I promise you it will have turn - by -turn because Google's Map App would suck in comparison if it didn't. Google knows this.

 

Like you say, this will tell us who the real party responsible for the lack of turn - by -turn on the iPhone. If it has turn by turn, we know Google was trying to use that against Apple, but had to cave once Apple brought out its own App.

 

Apple and its users win regardless. Apple doesn't have to pay Google for the Turn by Turn, and it is denying Google valuable location based information.

 

Most people will use the default app (at least in North America), to the people who don't like Apple's Maps, they can switch. I honestly think Apple's Maps look better, and I like the integration with Yelp. 

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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post

Funny how people forgot that the old Apple(Google) maps did NOT have turn-by-turn... so were the old maps really better? It depends on what you're looking for.
The old map app didn't have navigation... but it had lots of data.
I actually like the new Apple maps though... they've performed well for me so far. The built-in navigation works great... and it's pretty!
But I will also download the new Google maps. They will have a lot more POIs... StreetView if you're into that... and exit numbers!
Sorry- where in either of our posts did we say that we forgot the old maps didnt have spoken turn by turn? And how is that relevant now?

The fact is that Maps now DOES have spoken turn by turn, and that is NOW the standard. Not last years version.
So again- if it doesn't have spoken turn by turn- its less functional and worse than the current Apple maps is- unless you're one of the people who need street view more than spoken turn by turn

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post #35 of 42
Underwhelmed. You're too late for me, Eric.
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Sorry- where in either of our posts did we say that we forgot the old maps didnt have spoken turn by turn? And how is that relevant now?
The fact is that Maps now DOES have spoken turn by turn, and that is NOW the standard. Not last years version.
So again- if it doesn't have spoken turn by turn- its less functional and worse than the current Apple maps is- unless you're one of the people who need street view more than spoken turn by turn

My bad.

Earlier you said if the new Google Maps doesn't have turn-by-turn directions... it will be worse. (maybe I didn't understand... worse than what?)

I was just channeling all the comments from a lot of people saying how bad the new Apple Maps are when they were released. The new Apple Maps had one thing going for them... they had turn-by-turn navigation. The old map app didn't.

You're absolutely correct. Now the built-in Apple Maps have turn-by-turn... and the new Google Maps has turn-by-turn too.

It's win all around.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

So now you're claiming the GPS HW is faulty in the iPhone and iPad that it would "misreport[...] your position by two or three hundred metres"? Do you have any proof of that?

 

It can't be hardware, it has to be software. My phone (a non-S 4) showed my location correctly under iOS5, and since updating to iOS6 it doesn't anymore. My guess is that the Maps app is either misinterpreting the GPS data or misrepresenting it on the display. I don't have any other mapping apps installed to compare, but if Google does eventually offer one I'll probably install it and see if it gets it right.

 

"Proof?" Yes, I have proof. I know exactly where I'm standing, and what it shows on the screen ain't where I am. How's that? :) I don't understand your scepticism, since it's not like I have anything to gain by misleading you.

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That's also something that a google maps app wouldn't be able to fix either. Just an odd statement 

 

Actually, Google *MIGHT* be able to fix it since the problem started when I updated my iPhone to iOS6, indicating that the problem is in the software. Since the switch that introduced the problem involved switching form Google maps to Apple's, there's a possibility that a Google app might solve it. Or maybe not.

 

That wasn't the point though. My comment was in response to AppleSauce007's statement that (s)he's perfectly satisfied with Apple Maps. I offered a tongue-in-cheek reason that one might be inclined to explore alternatives by sharing an anecdote. There was nothing "odd" about it at all if you read it in the context of the discussion.

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It can't be hardware, it has to be software. My phone (a non-S 4) showed my location correctly under iOS5, and since updating to iOS6 it doesn't anymore. My guess is that the Maps app is either misinterpreting the GPS data or misrepresenting it on the display. I don't have any other mapping apps installed to compare, but if Google does eventually offer one I'll probably install it and see if it gets it right.

"Proof?" Yes, I have proof. I know exactly where I'm standing, and what it shows on the screen ain't where I am. How's that? 1smile.gif I don't understand your scepticism, since it's not like I have anything to gain by misleading you.

Misinterpreting GPS data is not the same as you saying the GPS is misreporting. You are saying the GPS is the issue, not the app that needs to parse the GPS data.

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Misinterpreting GPS data is not the same as you saying the GPS is misreporting. You are saying the GPS is the issue, not the app that needs to parse the GPS data.

 

Yeah okay, I see what you mean. For a minute there I thought you were just being pedantic, but you're right, my wording confused the issue.

 

FWIW I'm not among those who hate Apple Maps. I really like the vector rendering and caching. I just don't understand how some people can be so staunchly entrenched in positions that are either utterly dismissive or blindly zealous. My feeling is that it's a good tool with some genuine benefits, but it still has some flaws that need to be ironed out.

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