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Covering your ears and shouting "la la la la" to yourself, doesn't make the truth go away. I'll miss you!.

 

Posting absolute shit and nonsense and then asking others to spend the time to prove you wrong isn't any picnic either.  

 

You're posting the equivalent of "The moon is definitely made of cheese."

 

No one has to prove you wrong.  You just are. 

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Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

 

It's not denial. The Google Maps app does not have ads.

 

Google says they will put in ads in a future update. Right now they just wanted to get the app released.

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Considering how many people moan(ed) about lack of it, why do Google persist in making street view functionality completely unintuitive to access and use until someone google's it and finds out.... I mean, we know it's there, people are talking about it and stuff, but where? etc.
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post #124 of 150
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You got it in reverse, Apple paid Google to use its data. Perhaps you saw all the new articles a while back talking about how Google was going to significantly increase the amount it charges people using its maps data in volume (e.g. Apple). 

 

I will keep using Apple maps because they are prettier and work great by me. I live in the US, and don't need a map to figure out mass transit (which has maps posted everywhere). Moreover, I like that Apple safeguards my information, and I want the product to improve.

 

With that said, Apple creating its own maps is kind of like when it had to create Safari. Everybody else was slacking on bringing a decent browser to the Mac, and Microsoft even said it was going to withdraw its product which it did. Apple needs a decent Maps App to control its own destiny. The biggest mistake Apple made with its Maps App, is not calling it a beta (like Google has done). 

 

What we know is for whatever reason Google wasn't going to allow Apple to use its data to bring turn - by -turn without Apple giving something significant up on top of the money Apple was already paying. News stories suggest Google wanted branding, tighter integration with its own products,  and access to Apple's location data. 

 

Apple bringing its Maps App forced Google to bring the things Google was currently denying, like Turn - by - Turn. Apple now doesn't have to pay for the data. Moreover, Google has to abide by Apple's developer rules limiting access to location data. It really is a win for Apple.

 

Personally, the whole Google brings its Map App to the App Store shows how biased the press and some people in general are becoming against Apple. The app was available for like ten minutes, and people were writing all these glowing reviews. The App might in fact be great, but can you really make those claims without at least a day or two of trying it out?  Take for instance, the App Store reviews. Around two in the morning, hundreds of people gave the App five stars right after downloading it.

 

Agreed that this could have all been avoided if Apple just admitted that their map app was in beta. They could have encouraged Google to get Google Maps finished before releasing Apple Maps. Instead they got cocky and thought everyone would love Apple Maps.

 

As for the app store reviews, 10 minutes is enough to know the app deserved a glowing review. The interface is amazing. And we've all used Google Maps on our phones and the website for many years. We already know the quality of the data without having to test it in the new app. The app is using the same data as the website.

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Jeez, just shut up won't you?  You are wrong.  You are wrong about tracking being on by default in iOS 6.  You are wrong about AD tracking in iOS 6.  You are wrong about Google's tracking being anonymous and for traffic mapping purposes only.  None of this stuff is on by default.  It's all opt-in only and all user controllable in the settings app which is not obfuscated or six levels deep or misleading in any way like Google's stuff is.  

 

In fact, you are wrong about almost everything you've said on this thread, yet you continue to bleat on about it and are obnoxious and insulting to boot.  

 

Last advice before blocking you:  Either post wrong headed stuff like this in a polite way, or be an asshole but get your facts straight.  The combination of being wrong about everything but sanctimonious and insulting as well is just annoying as heck.  

 

 

Another "la la la la" while covering ears to avoid hearing the truth. Do a simple search, the info is all there. Time to take off the tin foil hats.

 

Here this link even has pics for you to follow,

http://www.businessinsider.com/ifa-apples-iphone-tracking-in-ios-6-2012-10?op=1

 

From the article

 

 

  • iOS 6 comes in a default "tracking on" position. You have to affirmatively switch it off if you do not want advertisers to see what you're up to.
  • The tracking control in iPhone's settings is NOT contained where you might expect it, under the "Privacy" menu. Instead, it's found under "General," then "About," and then the "Advertising" section of the Settings menu.
  • The tracking control is titled "Limit Ad Tracking," and must be turned to ON, not OFF, in order to work. That's slightly confusing — "ON" means ads are off! — so a large number of people will likely get this wrong.


  • Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ifa-apples-iphone-tracking-in-ios-6-2012-10#ixzz2Eyg8Ue82
post #126 of 150
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Agreed that this could have all been avoided if Apple just admitted that their map app was in beta. They could have encouraged Google to get Google Maps finished before releasing Apple Maps. Instead they got cocky and thought everyone would love Apple Maps.

 

As for the app store reviews, 10 minutes is enough to know the app deserved a glowing review. The interface is amazing. And we've all used Google Maps on our phones and the website for many years. We already know the quality of the data without having to test it in the new app. The app is using the same data as the website.

 

It already has 14,152 reviews (12k 5 star, 1k 4 star) on app store. I looked up several of the other "paid $49" apps, Tom Tom, Garmin, etc and they each only have < 100 mixed reviews.

 

I'd say it's a big hit. Job well done.

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iOS 6 Apple maps appears to show vectors for most areas of China... Which areas in particular are bit-mapped?

 

Maybe you are located in USA and is looking on China. But when you are in China as I am, the maps from all over the world are bit-mapped. Like right now I am looking at Boston and it is bit-mapped. 

So I guess you get different favor depending where you are located. 

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It's not denial. The Google Maps app does not have ads.

 

Google says they will put in ads in a future update. Right now they just wanted to get the app released.

 

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So what is the bit at the bottom, the bit that says "First National Real Estate" and how does it relate to the search term "Selwyn avenue Minto", which does not exist in Google maps but is displayed correctly in Apple maps, if this is not an ad, what is it and why is Google directing me to drive over an hour in the wrong direction to the other side of the city in order to go to a real estate business?

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post #129 of 150
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So? Report it in the "Report a Problem" section.

So... some people, when they purchase something, don't want to be volunteers helping product to improve. Give 'em iPhone5 for free and most will gladly help improve. Sell them iPhone5, and they expect everything to work as advertised.

The nerve of those individuals...

And. It is not like reported problems get fixed immediately.
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127 comments ... more than half consisting of accusations of illogical comments from someone else. If two sides of a debate are claiming superior logic, isn't it time to call it quits because at least one side is not being honest with itself?

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Here you go:-

Look, according to Google there is nothing here, just bare earth:-


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It's a good thing emergency services don't use Google, how would they respond to an average Joe's emergency in a street that doesn't exist:-


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Here are more houses that don't exist, according to Google it's bare earth:-


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...and some more:-


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Lastly here's a picture taken on one of the Longhurst and Longhurst corners, note the houses where Google says there is bare earth:-


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, cry me a freakin' river. Street view has been available in my area for years. Just this past August I noticed they finally got to my neighborhood. Before that they were showing sat. Imagery that was almost 5 years out of date...
So want does Apple maps show? What are you trying to say? Google sucks and Apple is awesome with regards to maps? State your purpose for bitching.
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Dude, cry me a freakin' river. Street view has been available in my area for years. Just this past August I noticed they finally got to my neighborhood. Before that they were showing sat. Imagery that was almost 5 years out of date...
So want does Apple maps show? What are you trying to say? Google sucks and Apple is awesome with regards to maps? State your purpose for bitching.

 

By providing real examples I have addressed the concerns of all the whiners, who have been going on about how absolutely perfect Google maps is and how great a loss to iOS 6 it's removal was, endless bitching and whining such as the 498 posts in the thread about Apple Maps and Mildura, over and over again how Google is the best thing since sliced bread.

 

Fact is it's not, as can be easily shown, which I have done only to be met with responses like yours and others who MINIMISE Google map errors and MAXIMISE Apple map errors.

 

Fact is I'm sick of the bullshit surrounding this subject and did something about it using irrefutable evidence of fact.

 

What does Apple Maps show, Selwyn Avenue for starters and quite a few houses, here see for yourself.

 

 

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What does Apple Maps show, Selwyn Avenue for starters and quite a few houses, here see for yourself.

 

 

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Well gosh, why haven't you ever mentioned an issue with that street before? 1biggrin.gif

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Besides Google Maps being the number one free download for the Appstore, it looks like it's really being used too. Google Earth, an optional download within the app, has jumped from number 78 to number 4 according to App Annie.

 

http://www.appannie.com/top/#

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Google Maps…ugly as hell on our iPads at 2x's. Real ugly!

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Besides Google Maps being the number one free download for the Appstore, it looks like it's really being used too. Google Earth, an optional download within the app, has jumped from number 78 to number 4 according to App Annie.

 

http://www.appannie.com/top/#


Some here keep asking for exactly how many more mistakes there are on Apple Maps v. on Google Maps, knowing full well that's like saying the only way to prove a full glass has more liquid than a half glass is to count how many water molecules there are. Well, surely this is some type of objective metric. If iOS customers, including many superfans, are tripping over themselves to use Google Maps, how superior can Apple Maps is?
 

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Google Maps…ugly as hell on our iPads at 2x's. Real ugly!

It does say "Optimized for IP5" on the app store. An iPad version is in the works apparently.

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I have to say I've been reading Appleinsider for two years and have always thought they did quite a good job at being unbiased despite the fact that everyone here (including me) is an Apple fan. This Article, however, is incredibly biased. As pretty much every iPhone user will tell you Google maps blows Apple maps into the middle of next week and for every example where Apple maps is better there are 10 where Google is better.
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Way to go, DED!

What's good for the gander is also good for the goose and vice versa.

Some critics sure know how to dish it out but can't take it when the shoe's on the other foot.

All in all, a warts-and-all objective first look at Google Maps for iOS, which may have come too late to significantly hinder the take-up of Apple maps, which has improved significantly since its debut into an impressive app.

As you say, Win-Win for iOS users... looking forward to more in-depth analysis as usual from you
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To the guy saying Apple Maps suck in the UK:

Speak for yourself, mate.

I live in one-horse-town Basingstoke, Hampshire and the Apple Maps' Satellite view of the area is absolutely brilliant, after a decidedly ropey roll-out.

Turn-by-turn navigation worked a peach to completely defuse a really bad-tempered situation in Bristol recently, where the people expecting a friend of mine were too drunk, stoned or both to give us directions to their house ("uh, dude, don't you have a SatNav, ?"). LoL

My mate was threatening to return to London when I quietly asked him to give me the postcode. "What?" he sneered, "that POS Apple phone cr**?".

A few minutes later we were pulling up outside their digs with no fuss whatsoever. We hadn't been in Bristol since 1999, and Apple Maps came to the rescue with the greatest of ease.

Siri + Navigation repeated the feat to a live gig with all on board, and I won some respectful converts to the Apple cause that night, admiration all round.

Your mileage may vary, but Apple Maps is nothing but smiles for me so far, and total win-win now that Google Maps joins it on my iDevices for Street View, Walking and Transit Maps.

Message to Google: stick to your core competency (software) and you won't go wrong, wasting billions on clueless hardware strategies and antagonising powerful friends who should be staunch allies.
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’Google Maps’ is new to iOS as of version iOS 6. Prior to the recent release of Google Maps, Apple only used Google’s mapping data. The actual app has always been produced by Apple. Apple did not pull any Google apps from the app store. The newest version of Apple Maps app replaced the older version and uses TomTom as the map data supplier. As for the YouTube app, that was also an Apple designed app. That app was only added late in the original iPhone OS release to give it more app entertainment value. Once the app development was released to the public, Apple really did not have any need for that app any more

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post #144 of 150
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So an article about Google Maps returning to iOS is a thinly veiled excuse to demonstrate how brilliant Apple Maps is.
I'm really glad that Apple Maps doesn't render a pavement under the Golden Gate Bridge, but when you're in the UK and it is incapable of finding any local businesses you search for then it's not much fucking use to me. iOS maps is terrible in the UK.

 

Apple Maps works fine for me in the UK, and I've tested it in London, Leeds, Bristol, and Newport in Wales where I just did an evaluation of Google Maps' walking directions as well, around the Celtic Manor resort, venue of the sensational Ryder Cup golf tournament of 2010 .
 
As usual, it's on the user interactivity front that Google Maps lags behind; after nagging me to 'Turn South!' (instead of simply 'Turn Left') a few times, GMaps started to recalculate an alternate route without informing me, and sent me down a steep, twisty hillside road with no footpaths and plenty car traffic, turning a 7-minute walk into a 35-minute nightmare. It did however to its credit sense my distress and displayed the 'shake to send feedback' page a few times (and stressing me out further by failing to dismiss it on first tap!)
 
It was my error to start with, but by comparison, in Bristol when Apple Maps detected a wrong driving turn, it just displayed 'RECALCULATING' in large prominent letters so the navigator could realise a mistake had been made, and we quickly got back on track. Very subtle, gentle nag there, if you get my drift (pun intended) and see the difference from GMaps.
 
Satellite and 3D hybrid views in my Hampshire small town are detailed and pretty in Apple Maps, and with the inclusion of Google Maps as an in-app choice for Transit, Walking and Street View as well as for my ageing 3GS and i4 handsets, I couldn't be happier with Apple Maps right now.
 
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Dunno, seems like an honest appraisal to me. Still, I can see it'd upset a fandroid.

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I have to say I've been reading Appleinsider for two years and have always thought they did quite a good job at being unbiased despite the fact that everyone here (including me) is an Apple fan. This Article, however, is incredibly biased. As pretty much every iPhone user will tell you Google maps blows Apple maps into the middle of next week and for every example where Apple maps is better there are 10 where Google is better.

Rubbish. It disagrees with your view, that is all. So bored of commenters conflating bias with differing opinion. I'm a long term iPhone owner and frackly the Google Maps app need a lot of work. Google's map data ain't as great as you lot make out either. 

post #147 of 150

I had the same experience recently.  The day I read online that Google Maps had come out for iOS and people were finally upgrading to iOS 6, I also did a search for Thunder Horse, Cedar Park, TX.  "Thunder Horse" is a street, but has no "St, Rd, Wy, Ave, Blvd, etc" after its name.  Google has no idea, but Apple knows exactly where it is.  Try it for yourself and see.

 

I have used Apple/Google iPhone maps for years, used the Google Android Map App for most of 2009-2010 and have been on Apple's maps for 3 weeks now.  They all just keep getting better and better.  I'll download Google's new iOS version too, but honestly, I hope no one ever "wins" and stops pushing the limits of possibilities in the free mobile navigation app sphere.

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I had the same experience recently.  The day I read online that Google Maps had come out for iOS and people were finally upgrading to iOS 6, I also did a search for Thunder Horse, Cedar Park, TX.  "Thunder Horse" is a street, but has no "St, Rd, Wy, Ave, Blvd, etc" after its name.  Google has no idea, but Apple knows exactly where it is.

Is that actually in Leander rather than Cedar Park? Just curious really.

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post #149 of 150

After 2 weeks of usage, I can easily say that Google maps app is way better than the apple one. 

This feeling is for China only, I guess. 

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Is that actually in Leander rather than Cedar Park? Just curious really.

I thought it was in Leander when I first searched it, but when I checked it again to post, it said Cedar Park.  So I'm not really sure.

 

I know I searched it lots of ways, with and without town names and using "search nearby," so the town name wouldn't have caused the problem.

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