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Now everybody is happy! No more complaints and everyone can have what they prefer without the need to tell others they are wrong.
 

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Except for Germany, which doesn't have Street View. Which might also be the reason for the few flaws supposedly being there.
Anyone needing a map app to get home from work has other issues than debating on which app to use.
When Apple asked Google to give them turn by turn data for their Maps App, they declined. Jragosta is right.

Evidence? What were the exact terms of the deal? I highly doubt Apple didn't want its pound of flesh for "allowing" Google to offer navigation.
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How to you get streetview ???

By starting to read at the top before posting. A lame reply, but I cannot for the life of me understand why people (in general, not merely you!) post without reading the thread first.
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When Apple asked Google to give them turn by turn data for their Maps App, they declined. Jragosta is right.
You should preface that with "according to rumors".

Well, I meant that I agree with him. Google should be told that it is unfair for them to have Android users get turn by turn and not Apple. Or perhaps ok, but Apple should look for alternatives if Google doesn't grant them that data. So they created their own Maps App. Fine by me.
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How to you get streetview ???

That's answered earlier in the thread. 

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How to you get streetview ???

The fastest way is to swipe up from the bottom to access additional details.

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By starting to read at the top before posting. A lame reply, but I cannot for the life of me understand why people (in general, not merely you!) post without reading the thread first.

Well, I meant that I agree with him. Google should be told that it is unfair for them to have Android users get turn by turn and not Apple. Or perhaps ok, but Apple should look for alternatives if Google doesn't grant them that data. So they created their own Maps App. Fine by me.

Fair enough, and certainly a valid opinion.

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Huge step back for me on transit directions; what happened? For me to walk ~3 miles to the office is about 40 minutes. The transit directions had me taking the bus one mile, walking two, then taking the bus another mile. Seems much harder than using the bus that runs directly from start to finish.
Traffic looked worse as well compared to previous version.

 

Done any Google searches for "weight loss" or "fitness" lately?

 

Don't be alarmed, big brother Google is just looking out for you.

 

They know you better than you know yourself.

 

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I'll be near there tomorrow I'll post a "streetview".

"Surely OP will deliver..." I can see it myself here, and won't care after the next 30 seconds anyway.

 

 

 

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Google maps is BROKEN, take off the Google goggles of denial.

 

Here's a small violin it didn't work in your one trivial use case, no one ever said Google Maps was perfect, in fact Google tells you it isn't, but it's far more detailed and accuate globally than Apple Maps. 

 

 

 

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You obviously don't have any iOS devices to test this on.

 What do my kids keep saying these days for stupidity? "Derp?"

 

700

 

Run along, run along... /ignore

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The best map app ever, love you Google!

 

 

Have you tried them all? For instance, did you sell out the $40 dollars for an App like Navigon or Garmin? Just curious. 

post #50 of 150
Huge improvement compared to Apple Maps here in China, since Google provide Vector-based maps here and Apple image-tile based solution is the only thing we have here.
Feel much better also in term of text and info. But only played a while.
Will play a bit longer and will have more comparison.

For the moment the main feedback is that it feel much better on the eyes.
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That's answered earlier in the thread. 

 

Well, I got the address by holding my finger in a spot on the map, got a little red pin, swipe the address up and got streetview.

After that I was unable to get rid of the address but tapping quickly else where makes it disapear.  Once you know how it works its nice, but imo its not obvious.

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Have you tried them all? For instance, did you sell out the $40 dollars for an App like Navigon or Garmin? Just curious. 

 

I got garmin, but its for offline turn by turn.  The problem with both Apple and google is it requires a connection.

post #54 of 150
Frustratingly, neither Apple nor Google Maps for iOS offer biking directions; only Google's web app has this feature. Furthermore, dragging to change route on the web app is no longer supported on iOS, a real PITA as biking directions so often need to be modified. D'oh!
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Evidence? What were the exact terms of the deal? I highly doubt Apple didn't want its pound of flesh for "allowing" Google to offer navigation.

 

 

You got it in reverse, Apple paid Google to use its data. Perhaps you saw all the new articles a while back talking about how Google was going to significantly increase the amount it charges people using its maps data in volume (e.g. Apple). 

 

I will keep using Apple maps because they are prettier and work great by me. I live in the US, and don't need a map to figure out mass transit (which has maps posted everywhere). Moreover, I like that Apple safeguards my information, and I want the product to improve.

 

With that said, Apple creating its own maps is kind of like when it had to create Safari. Everybody else was slacking on bringing a decent browser to the Mac, and Microsoft even said it was going to withdraw its product which it did. Apple needs a decent Maps App to control its own destiny. The biggest mistake Apple made with its Maps App, is not calling it a beta (like Google has done). 

 

What we know is for whatever reason Google wasn't going to allow Apple to use its data to bring turn - by -turn without Apple giving something significant up on top of the money Apple was already paying. News stories suggest Google wanted branding, tighter integration with its own products,  and access to Apple's location data. 

 

Apple bringing its Maps App forced Google to bring the things Google was currently denying, like Turn - by - Turn. Apple now doesn't have to pay for the data. Moreover, Google has to abide by Apple's developer rules limiting access to location data. It really is a win for Apple.

 

Personally, the whole Google brings its Map App to the App Store shows how biased the press and some people in general are becoming against Apple. The app was available for like ten minutes, and people were writing all these glowing reviews. The App might in fact be great, but can you really make those claims without at least a day or two of trying it out?  Take for instance, the App Store reviews. Around two in the morning, hundreds of people gave the App five stars right after downloading it.

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You got it in reverse, Apple paid Google to use its data. Perhaps you saw all the new articles a while back talking about how Google was going to significantly increase the amount it charges people using its maps data in volume (e.g. Apple). 

 

I will keep using Apple maps because they are prettier and work great by me. I live in the US, and don't need a map to figure out mass transit (which has maps posted everywhere). Moreover, I like that Apple safeguards my information, and I want the product to improve.

 

With that said, Apple creating its own maps is kind of like when it had to create Safari. Everybody else was slacking on bringing a decent browser to the Mac, and Microsoft even said it was going to withdraw its product which it did. Apple needs a decent Maps App to control its own destiny. The biggest mistake Apple made with its Maps App, is not calling it a beta (like Google has done). 

 

What we know is for whatever reason Google wasn't going to allow Apple to use its data to bring turn - by -turn without Apple giving something significant up on top of the money Apple was already paying. News stories suggest Google wanted branding, tighter integration with its own products,  and access to Apple's location data. 

 

Apple bringing its Maps App forced Google to bring the things Google was currently denying, like Turn - by - Turn. Apple now doesn't have to pay for the data. Moreover, Google has to abide by Apple's developer rules limiting access to location data. It really is a win for Apple.

 

Personally, the whole Google brings its Map App to the App Store shows how biased the press and some people in general are becoming against Apple. The app was available for like ten minutes, and people were writing all these glowing reviews. The App might in fact be great, but can you really make those claims without at least a day or two of trying it out?  Take for instance, the App Store reviews. Around two in the morning, hundreds of people gave the App five stars right after downloading it.

 

I would have loved to also use Apple Maps, but the vector-based is not available here in China. I think you are lucky in the US to have the best out of Apple.

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Public Transit does not work in the Washington DC area....guess I'll have to wait to check out that feature.

post #58 of 150
About time!!!
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Frustratingly, neither Apple nor Google Maps for iOS offer biking directions; only Google's web app has this feature. Furthermore, dragging to change route on the web app is no longer supported on iOS, a real PITA as biking directions so often need to be modified. D'oh!

As a cyclist, I never even tried using Google Maps for that purpose, there are far better apps on the store than Google. "Outside of Search, Google’s products—Android, Google Docs—are shit."
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX View Post
Now everybody is happy! No more complaints and everyone can have what they prefer without the need to tell others they are wrong.

 

Inform your friends of that, then.

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Hopefully that'll shut up all the Fandroids masquerating as disgruntled iPhone users (but I doubt it).


Yeap, all true iPhone users are happily singing Kumbaya together! There was never and there will never be a single disgruntled iPhone user!

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Seems like a giant FAIL to me so far.  I won't be using it much. 

 

in my area:

 

- no streetview

- no 3D of any kind (no topology, no flyover)

- transit directions spotty and only avail for downtown routes only

- no transit maps (transit is in list view only)

- no bike routes

- advertisements galore

- deceptive tracking practices (!)

- log in required for extra features

- nagware

 

I am a bit surprised really, but for me, and in my area (west coast of Canada) this has less features and is less appealing that Apple maps (which admittedly suck but not as hard as this).  It's also a big step backwards from the "old" Google maps (which were actually Apple maps).  

 

I hate Google and purposely try to avoid their products as I try not to do business with blatantly immoral companies like them, but if the maps product were significantly better than Apple maps I might have used it just for practical reasons.  Lucky for me they dropped the ball so I don't have the moral dilemma now.  1smile.gif

post #63 of 150
Thank you, Google, for going out of your way to fix this nonsense. You're really showing who the uncooperative party is here. I can finally upgrade to iOS 6, but do I want to do so and lose composite AV mirroring from the jailbreak?
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>>>Seems like a giant FAIL to me so far.  I won't be using it much. 

>>>in my area:

 

 

You need maps to get around "your area"?

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Why did Google wait until Apple released their own maps to create this also for iOS?

 

They could have done it all along, and would have been standard maps of iPhone as of now.

 

 

Seems good, but I don't want to have too much "google" on my phone. I'd like to spread the amount of info about myself that the various companies have.... :-) 

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Originally Posted by pinolo View Post
Why did Google wait until Apple released their own maps to create this also for iOS?

 

They could have done it all along, and would have been standard maps of iPhone as of now.

 

What reason would they have possibly had to do this? You do realize what's behind the old Maps app, right? And how Apple paid Google for having it (and per hit? I can't remember).

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Public Transit does not work in the Washington DC area....guess I'll have to wait to check out that feature.

its not available on the Web browser version either...nor do many other cities.

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Hopefully that'll shut up all the Fandroids masquerating as disgruntled iPhone users (but I doubt it).


Yeap, all true iPhone users are happily singing Kumbaya together! There was never and there will never be a single disgruntled iPhone user!

 

Comprehension fail, much?

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Have you tried them all? For instance, did you sell out the $40 dollars for an App like Navigon or Garmin? Just curious. 

I am talking about best free map ever, of course you can't compare a $40 or $50 dollars app with a free one.

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One thing that seems to be missing: search via voice like you can on the Chrome app and on the Google Search app.

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I suspect that one thing Apple will really catch hell on regarding various comparisons between the Apple and Google version of these two apps is the fact that Google doesn't appear to need a dual-core processor phone just to run a GPS app. The Google version gives turn by turn directions on both the iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS.

 

That right there is a good enough reason for my wife to download it. It is ridiculous that Apple claims her iPhone 4 isn't capable of this.

 

Sorry but Apple isn't claiming that the iP4 can't do turn by turn. I have got an iP4 and turn by turn navigation works perfectly. When you install iOS6 the iP4 will do the trick.

Don't know about the 3GS.

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Sorry but Apple isn't claiming that the iP4 can't do turn by turn. I have got an iP4 and turn by turn navigation works perfectly. When you install iOS6 the iP4 will do the trick.

Don't know about the 3GS.

 

 

"Turn-by-turn navigation is available only on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, and iPad 2 or later with cellular data capability." From here: http://www.apple.com/ios/maps/

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I'll use both until inevitably Apple's Maps will be far superior.

 

Keep using Apple's Maps to help them improve it.

 

However, for practical driving, Navigon is still my goto app.

 

 

 
 

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Meh. Pick your poison. I want my trusty old nuvi in an iPhone. I know, software would cannibalize hardware for Garmin.

Apple's map: will get me lost if I ever go to a small town in Australia two weeks ago. Fine for my area. Only true issue: No voice nav on my iPhone4. God knows why.

MotionX Drive: Best for actually getting somewhere, great voice nav, screen impossibly busy.

Waze: I just want to get there. Enough with the meetups. "Uh-oh! We seem to have encountered a bug." then auto-OK. BTW my daily commute is suddenly 4,000 miles long.

Google Maps: Found only 2 routes for my daily commute out of 3 or 4. The only two it suggested are a suicide run through the worst traffic in our area and a backroad route no-one in their right mind would take. Have to sign in to Google in order to save anything, can't access my contacts. Rerouting is like playing blind man's bluff. Only speaks streets on a picked route - go off the route and street names stop. Seems to think it's on Top Chef with the delay between "in 1000 feet" .........annnnnnnd........ "turn left".
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However, for practical driving, Navigon is still my goto app.

Mine too when I need serious navigation and my standalone Garmin PND isn't with me.

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Meh. Pick your poison. I want my trusty old nuvi in an iPhone. I know, software would cannibalize hardware for Garmin

You're aware Garmin's navigation is available for the iPhone, right? It's called Garmin Streetpilot.

 

http://www.redmondpie.com/garmin-navigation-app-for-iphone-updated-now-features-google-street-view-and-public-transportation-info/

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So I havent been able to find this answered... yet (yes I read the thread, but no,  I did not study it in case I missed it).

 

Can Siri or voice commands be used with Google Map app?

Can it be made the 'default' mapping source?

 

Using Siri and just saying 'route to nearest McDonalds'  or 'route to Joe's house' on my iphone is great.

Ill probably only use Google Map if I need street view or as a 'confirmation' source. IMO - I like the higher color contrast of Google maps better than Apples too.

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So I havent been able to find this answered... yet (yes I read the thread, but no,  I did not study it in case I missed it).

 

Can Siri or voice commands be used with Google Map app?

Can it be made the 'default' mapping source?

 

Using Siri and just saying 'route to nearest McDonalds'  or 'route to Joe's house' on my iphone is great.

Ill probably only use Google Map if I need street view or as a 'confirmation' source. IMO - I like the higher color contrast of Google maps better than Apples too.

You don't need Siri with the Google app as it has it's own on-board voice recognition.

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You don't need Siri with the Google app as it has it's own on-board voice recognition.

I haven't been able to find that feature on Google Maps yet. Am I missing it or is it not there?

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Seems like a giant FAIL to me so far.  I won't be using it much. 

in my area:

- no streetview
- no 3D of any kind (no topology, no flyover)
- transit directions spotty and only avail for downtown routes only
- no transit maps (transit is in list view only)
- no bike routes
- advertisements galore
- deceptive tracking practices (!)
- log in required for extra features
- nagware

I am a bit surprised really, but for me, and in my area (west coast of Canada) this has less features and is less appealing that Apple maps (which admittedly suck but not as hard as this).  It's also a big step backwards from the "old" Google maps (which were actually Apple maps).  

I hate Google and purposely try to avoid their products as I try not to do business with blatantly immoral companies like them, but if the maps product were significantly better than Apple maps I might have used it just for practical reasons.  Lucky for me they dropped the ball so I don't have the moral dilemma now.  1smile.gif


A few funny things about the confirmation bias on your post:

1 - You need to use a GPS to navigate your area? The complaints you have would make sense on a global scale; reducing them to your area, however, makes no sense at all, especially if the competition doesn't have any of those services either.

2 - In what cases does 3D and flyover help you that satellite view does not?

3 - Apple Maps does not have street view anywhere at all, so this point is completely moot.

4 - Apple Maps does not have transit directions anywhere at all, so this is another moot point.

5 - Apple Maps does not have bike routes anywhere at all, so this is another moot point.

6 - What exactly do you mean by deceptive tracking practices? Do you claim that Google tracks you without permission? If so, do you have evidence of that? Because if you do, as an EU citizen, I can actually do something about that. If, on the other hand, you're simply expelling matter through your mouth that should have been expelled through your anal cavity instead, don't even bother.

7 - Extra services are exactly that -- extra. If you don't need them, nothing forces you to log in. Would you rather that the functionality was unavailable at all?

8 - What's nagwhare and why does Google Maps classify as such?
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