Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon.
You know. When Apple really wants to do something...they do it.
Hell, they did Maps. I can't think of anything I'd be less interested in as a Mac user. (...I used to Apple maps to find a restaurant or get close to it...the other night. Worked just fine.)
Maps works fine for me also. You have to wonder what is wrong with the complainers.
I never thought they'd do an mp3 player or a phone. But there's loads of money there by an order of magnitude over a piddling workstation market. Otherwise, there's plenty they could have done to drive unit sales.
The Pro wasn't always over priced. The g3 Tower/blue and white was much more affordable. In the bondi and candy era of imac you couldn't stop Apple updating the iMac with various colours and evolutionary spec.
In a nut shell this pricing issue is what really killed the Mac Pro. It drove sales down to the point that only Pros with significant need would buy one leaving the ret to look at Windows or Linux machines. Of course the value in Windows or Linux platforms depends on what type of Pro you are. However the dark side becomes very appealing when the value built into Mac Pros becomes non existent. I mean really why is the Mac Pro being sold right now with what will soon be a 4 year old GPU card. It boggles the mind.
It comes to something when they can't be 'arsed' to upgrade the pro. That 'joke' of a 'new' (ye-ah...) update earlier this year said it all.
It is hard to call a machine a Pro version if it doesn't contain your bleeding edge technology like TB or even USB 3 for that matter. I suspect that update was Apples way of saying we don't sell enough of these a year to care anymore. I'm beginning to wonder if they even come close to 5000 a quarter anymore.
But hey, iMac owners had been waiting nearly as long in some way and ivy bridge has been out a while.
At least the iMac and Mini come with The latest ports, even if the Mini is a major regression otherwise. At least they said here is your update even if it is 10 months late.
The mini was the same. People thought it was dead...and hey, some people are comparing it to the out of date pro.
I don't think the Mini is dead myself, sales are definitely stagnate in the US or where before the last update. Between the Mini and the IMac that is the bulk of Apples desktop sales. I'm to the point that I wonder if the Mac Pro gets even close to two percent of overall Mac sales.
Be nice if Apple offered decent gpus with some of their machines. 4000 intel crappics on the mini? Really Apple? Maybe integrated crappics will be less of an apology when haswell's integrated gpu comes along.
Yeah Apple what is up with this regression?
I actually think this is symptom of a deep seated problem with Apples desktop engineering. Instead of offering real value in a model spread they try to hard to strive for parts commonality across all Minis. I'm not saying the Mini needs to be an overblown power house when it comes to GPU processing. Rather I'm frustrated with the fact that Apple can't seem to see any value in updating the Minis power supply so that it can drive the extra 15 to 20 watts needed to power a fairly decent GPU that deals with Intels lackluster 3D and OpenCL support.
If you want to play the odd game convincingly, there's nothing I can see under £1095. If they could bundle a 680 Mx with the top end mini for £795-995 it would make the mini a far more compelling desktop machine.
Lemon Bon Bon.
The GPU issue on the Mini is very very frustrating. Before the latest update I was really hoping that Apple would have pulled its heaped out of its ass and offer a real update to the piss poor configuration in the midrange Mini with the discrete GPU. Instead they deleted the damn thing. I don't know what the motivation was but clearly no one at Apple understood how big of a fail it was to offer that Mini with GPU with so little GPU RAM. It is like my god folks ( Apple management) don't you know what the software running on your machines requires these days. I'm certain some fool at Apple headquarters looked at the sales of that midrange Mini and said nobody wants a Mini with a GPU, when the real problem is nobody wants a Mini with a poorly configured discrete GPU. It is another example of Apple shooting themselves in the foot and then wondering why sales of the Mini have been so lackluster. The problem is clear, each price point in a model lineup needs to be able to demonstrate value or advantages for that step up in price. Sadly apple has screwed up considerably here as two more i86 cores don't make up for a good GPU.
I'm really rambling on here but I'm so frustrated with Apples desktop line up that I just need to vent a bit. There is an old say tat goes something like: if you keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results you will never get any where. This is what the desktop line up feels like, there is zero innovation here, we just seem to be getting the same pathetic configurations over and over again.