Originally Posted by jazzguru
Isn't Chicago one of the most liberal cities in the country? And doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws in the country?
Presumably, you'd argue that the UK is more liberal than Chicago, and presumably you'd argue that it has stricter gun control laws?
You've repeatedly pointed to the UK as being an extremely violent place, which to a degree I'd actually agree with, but it's much, much less violent than the US.
The UK has between 200-220 knife murders each year, and less than 50 gun murders out of a population almost exactly five times less than the US (63 million UK, 315 million USA). For the year from 2011 to 2012 there were a total of 550 murders in the UK (including those found guilty of manslaughter) For 2010 in the US there were 1,704 knife murders alone. Additionally there were 540 blunt object murders. That's almost the same amount as the total murder count in the UK for that year. "Other weapons", which include everything outside of guns, knives, blunt objects, strangulation, fire, narcotics, hands and feet, poison, explosives, asphyxiation and drowning, totalled 874 in the US. That alone is much higher than the UK's total number of murders.
The UK is liberal, it has strict gun laws, and it has far, far fewer murders.
Check how people are murdered in the US here- http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl08.xls
Edited by Hands Sandon - 2/11/13 at 11:00am