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Thefts of iPhones, iPads and iPods are accountable for an overall increase in crime in New York City, the Big Apple's mayor said in a recent interview.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show that overall crime in the city was skewed by the theft of Apple products, according to The New York Times. There were 3,484 more major crimes in 2012 than a year prior, but Apple product thefts alone were 3,890 greater than in 2011.

Bloomberg said that thieves in New York seem to show a preference for Apple products. He noted that mobile devices from Apple's competition, such as Samsung, were not included in the Apple-only figures.

The mayor advised that that citizens should keep their Apple products in an interior pocket, making the device harder to reach and also making it easier to tell if someone has reached in to steal it.

Bloomberg's press secretary, Marc La Vorgna, also said New York's overall crime figure was singlehandedly skewed by Apple: "If you just took away the jump in Apple, we'd be down for the year," he said.

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NYPD sign up customers at Apple's Fifth Ave store in September. Photo via Gothamist.


In all, there were 108,432 major crimes in New York in 2012 through Monday. With just a few days left in the year, the figure represents a 3.3 percent increase from the 104,948 major crimes reported in all of 2011.

In September, a crime statistics report released by the New York Police Department revealed that Apple products accounted for 14 percent of all major crime in the city between Jan. 1 and Sept. 23 of this year. That was a 40 percent increase in stolen Apple products from the same period a year prior.

In response increases in stolen Apple products, the NYPD went hands on with crowds lined up for the launch of the iPhone 5 in September. Police offers encouraged customers to register their electronics in order to potentially recover them in the event of a theft.

The NYPD's "Anti-Apple Picking Campaign" is part of the NYPD's Operation ID, a free service in which officers register the serial number of a valuable device along with the owner's name and contact information.

"The theft of Apple phones and other handheld devices drove the spike in robberies in larceny this year," Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. "Individuals alert to their surroundings are less likely to become victims, and Operation ID will help those whose property is lost or stolen to get it back."
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Maybe they should ban Apple products like they banned trans fats. Those solutions deal equally with the real problem (idiocy and HFCS, respectively).


The NYPD's "Anti-Apple Picking Campaign"

 

Great. Now the Anti-Apple Brigade has government funding and guns.

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post #3 of 99

The increased crime rate is because people are mad they can't buy a big soda. Bloomberg is just scapegoating Apple

post #4 of 99
Cracks me up. I have also noted that cash based crimes seem to be skewed towards US based currencies here in the US.
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New York's retard of a mayor has already banned large soft-drinks and baby formula. Next up? A ban on Apple products, because that will keep New Yorkers safer.
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This could be a new business line for RIM.  They can sell cases to make iPhones look like BlackBerrys so they don't get stolen.
 

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The title here is a bit misleading.  He does not sound like he is blaming Apple, more that he is reporting the facts on what is being stolen.  Understand click bait, but that is going a bit far.

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The NYPD's "Anti-Apple Picking Campaign"

 

This is just part of Bloomberg's and Kelly's attempt to turn NYC into a surveillance state. Why anyone would hand over information about their cell phone to the NYPD with their history of Civil Rights violations is beyond understanding. 

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It's because of Apple's brand. Crime unfortunately follows when there's a high demand or profitability on a product. There's nothing Apple can do but to continue innovating. It's up to New York and other areas to protect citizens. This is outside the realm of Apple's control. Apple can innovate antitheft features, but controlling crime is still not enforced by Apple.
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I see a sales opportunity for cases and skins that make your iOS device look like an android device.
post #11 of 99

Sounds similar to the list of top stolen cars - generally led by Honda Civic and or Accord - why? because there are a lot of them on the road - meaning they are not only available - but also the market for stripped parts is also large. 

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I see a sales opportunity for cases and skins that make your iOS device look like an android device.

 

Or an '80s cassette walkman!

 

On second thought, someone might actually want the walkman.

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Did he blame Apple products for the increase in crime or state that the theft of Apple products are popular in crime? These are very different things when it comes to blame.



PS: I hope they don't crack down on my black market Big Gulp sales. Dealers exchanging Kilos for Liters. Cops pushing that knife into a bag of cola syrup during a bust, tasting it with their pinky finger, and then stating it's 100% pure Coke.
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post #14 of 99

If they didn't ban the large sodas, the thugs would be too hefty to run.  See?  Bureaucracy at it's finest.  Hurts only the innocent.

 

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post #15 of 99

Obama should just sign an executive order giving everyone free iPhones and Nike Air Jordan shoes.  And some bacon to take home.

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Hahahahahahahah 

 

Maybe it's the 8.8% unemployment rate plus 1 million illegal aliens, and the fact that NYC is loaded with criminals who are armed... oh, wait, they can't be armed, that's illegal. 

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post #17 of 99
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Did he blame Apple products for the increase in crime or state that the theft of Apple products are popular in crime? These are very different things when it comes to blame.
PS: I hope they don't crack down on my black market Big Gulp sales. Dealers exchanging Kilos for Liters. Cops pushing that knife into a bag of cola syrup during a bust, tasting it with their pinky finger, and then stating it's 100% pure Coke.

 

Ironically, Big Gulps, sold at 7-Eleven, are not covered under the big soda ban. Only beverages sold at restaurants, mobile food carts, sports arenas and movie theaters are covered, so convenience stores/bodegas can sell whatever they want.

 

Next they plan to target hamburgers larger than 6 oz.

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Obama should just sign an executive order giving everyone free iPhones and Nike Air Jordan shoes.  And some bacon to take home.

 

What kind of bacon?

post #19 of 99
And we wonder why our country is a mess.

I'm sure self-centeredness, morality, ethics, and an entitlement mentality have nothing to do with the rising crime rate. Our country is changing and it is not for the good.
post #20 of 99
I suspect that it isn't skewed due to apple being more stolen but rather android and flip phones are generally so cheap it's not worth the time and effort to file a police report etc to get your insurance to pay to replace. Folks just buy a new one out of their pocket.
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What kind of bacon!!!? C'mon, there's only one kind of real bacon (note my user tag). Now pour some maple syrup on that!

 

Not a fan of Canadian bacon, but it's great on a Meat Lovers pizza from Pizza Hut.

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Next they plan to target hamburgers larger than 6 oz.

Sounds like the White Castle lobbyists are behind this.

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What kind of bacon?

Kosher bacon.

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New York's retard of a mayor has already banned large soft-drinks and baby formula. Next up? A ban on Apple products, because that will keep New Yorkers safer.

I'm all for the whole 'no advertising swag bags of any products at hospitals' but as a woman and in such cases a parent F you New York for this criminal spin and notion of forcing me to breastfeed. Until someone can prove that it will kill a child to be given nothing but formula and never breastfed I have as much right to not do it, whatever my reasons, as to so it. And if the hospital is caring for my child for whatever reason they shouldn't have to it a reason for why they aren't forcing me to feed my child the way the city thinks best.
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What kind of bacon!!!? C'mon, there's only one kind of real bacon (note my user tag). Now pour some maple syrup on that!

 

Well, I was thinking it might be applewood smoked.

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Great! Now I want bacon.

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I see a sales opportunity for cases and skins that make your iOS device look like an android device.

That might help a little bit, but anybody who has a shred of dignity would never resort to such pathetic and desperate measures.

 

No way in hell would I ever cover up an Apple device and camouflage it to look like an Android device.

 

Even worse than getting an Apple device stolen is the chance that somebody would mistakenly recognize me as being an Android user. I'd rather have my Apple device stolen. At least I'd still have my pride. An Apple device can always be replaced. The stigma and shame of being an Android user can never be erased.

 

To deal with problem, Mayor Doucheberg has decided to ban all iPhones larger than 3.5", since the newest 4" iPhone is the hottest and most desirable phone that thieves are on the lookout for. Just like the soda ban, the iPhone ban will be a huge success and truly gets to the core of the problem.

 

As soon as this new law takes effect, walking with a 4" iPhone, smoking a cigarette and drinking a large soda will now get you the death penalty in New York City. If you're an illegal alien, walking around with an Android phone and you also happen to be a molester of children, don't worry, you'll be just fine. Just remember to stay away from the 16 oz and larger Coke.

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I'm starting an "Apple Buy Back Program" to get these dangerous machines off the streets. Bring all of your iMacs, iPods, iPads and iPhones to me and I'll give you a movie ticket to "John Carter". And remember... Android products don't kill people, Apple products kill people.

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What kind of bacon!!!? C'mon, there's only one kind of real bacon (note my user tag). Now pour some maple syrup on that!

Back bacon or Peameal bacon?

post #29 of 99

I think people aren't really listening to the real message of this story.  It looks like NYC wants to help stop the stealing of apple devices, however they need help from apple owners.  A big part of the blame is likely the huge subsidies that phone makers pay for phones, but another part of the problem is how easy it is to sell stolen apple products.  Most people who have a phone think of it as costing $200 at most, and don't consider the $500 that the carriers are putting toward it.  If they realized they were holding a $700 device, they might be more careful about flashing it around in public.  People know better than to flash around expensive jewelry on a subway, or show that you're carrying a bunch of money etc.  Why shouldn't they be equally careful with their phones?  And the city is trying to convince people to do that. Phones and tablets should be guarded more carefully.  Throwing a phone in a loose coat pocket while on the subway is not a smart idea.

 

As far as what apple has to do with it, it's all due to apple's popularity.  It's not that an iphone is inherently that much more valuable than an android phone, but rather that it's SO easy to unload a stolen iphone because there are so many used iphones for sale.  If a particular model of an android phone gets stolen, checking craigslist and pawn shops for that particular model might be an effective strategy, as there likely aren't too many used models for sale.  iPhones are so popular, and have so few models that unloading one is a breeze.  Likely with no questions asked whatsoever.  

 

Really, the people who should take the most away from this are A: apple product owners who need to be more careful, and B: insurance agencies who should looking into charging apple product owners more because of the increased crime associated with apple products.

 

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Bloomberg is one of the best politicians in the nation. Fact that he is being trashed here says a lot about the members.
post #31 of 99

Meanwhile there is a decrease in crime due to the Sony Walkman and Zune.

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Meanwhile there is a decrease in crime due to the Sony Walkman and Zune.

The Zune is a crime against humanity.

Be smart, people. Leave your iPhone in your pocket when on the streets.
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Be smart, people. Leave your iPhone in your pocket when on the streets.

 

That's ridiculous. Phones are meant to be used. What if somebody gets a phone call when they're out walking, or if somebody needs to make a phone call or check something?

 

I wouldn't go around flashing my iPhone at 3 AM on a NYC subway car filled with homeless bums, shady people, drunk people and other undesirables, but I'm not going to hesitate to use my Apple devices when I feel the need to, under normal circumstances.

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Bloomberg is one of the best politicians in the nation. Fact that he is being trashed here says a lot about the members.

 

Or it say's a lot about your perception of reality.

 

I bet you don't like bacon.

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Or it say's a lot about your perception of reality.

I bet you don't like bacon.

Hey! Show some respect by leaving bacon out of your political discussions. What has bacon ever done to you?

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Bloomberg is one of the best politicians in the nation. Fact that he is being trashed here says a lot about the members.

 

Too bad he's not also one of the best mayors. (Or, sadly, maybe he is, the level of quality of mayors not seeming to generally be that high.) He's completely out of touch with what life is like for most New Yorkers, so he wastes his time, and the taxpayers money on stupid things like big soda bans. He wanted to run a marathon, starting in Staten Island, less than a week after parts of that borough were devastated by Sandy. He, along with Ray Kelly, has presided over a Stop and Frisk policy that amounts to nothing more than harassing people for Walking While Black, and which will end up costing the taxpayers millions of dollars once all the law suits for Civil Rights violations are settled. Not to mention all the other Civil Rights violations the NYPD is responsible for under Bloomberg's leadership.

 

In fairness to him, he's probably less of a fascist than Rudy Giuliani, and New York has had some pretty lousy mayors in recent decades, so he sometimes looks good by comparison. And, really, no one with any intelligence or political skill really wants to waste their time being mayor of New York when there are so many other better political opportunities out there. But, after nearly 20 years of the Rudy and Mike show, other than in the Times Square area, it's hard to say New York is a better place than it was before them, unless you're very rich.

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Bloomberg is one of the best politicians in the nation. Fact that he is being trashed here says a lot about the members.

Do you live in NYC?

 

The dude is more ban happy than Hitler when it comes to certain issues, like cigarettes and certain food/drink items. And I'm not just throwing Hitler in to this conversation because I'm trying to godwin the topic. I'm throwing it in, because it happens to be a fact. Go look it up if you are unaware of history. Americans don't need any hypocritical politicians dictating to them what they are allowed to eat or not. Bloomberg has an authoritarian and dictatorial streak that is downright un-American. Bloomberg should take his dictator fetish and take over some third world country, where the people are accustomed to dictators and other sorts of douchebags.

 

I also remember when a car bomb went off in Times Square a few years ago. The idiot mayor speculated that it might be some "tea party" member with an axe to grind, while almost everybody else with a functioning brain knew exactly who was behind it, as soon as it happened. Did the idiot Bloomberg forget about a certain terrorist attack against the city a decade or so ago, where certain iconic buildings were completely destroyed? 

post #38 of 99
I wish Apple would do a better job and making their products useless to thieves. Better lockout and reactivation tech.
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But, after nearly 20 years of the Rudy and Mike show, other than in the Times Square area, it's hard to say New York is a better place than it was before them, unless you're very rich.

 

Times Square was better before. It was interesting, it was shady, there were many porn shops and funny characters there. It certainly had a vibe. It wasn't family friendly, but screw families. 

 

Now, it's sanitized, it's sterile, it's boring, it's all commercialized, taken over by big name chains, everything is over-priced and it's where tourists walk around way too slowly as if they're in some sort of Disneyland. I tend to avoid Times Square if I can help it.

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