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Samsung's day-two keynote at CES was full of surprises, including new bendable screen technology called "Youm," as well as an appearance by former U.S. President Bill Clinton.

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Samsung showed off a prototype smartphone with a screen that continues onto the device's corners.


Helping Samsung to unveil flexible Youm displays was Microsoft, which showed off a prototype Windows Phone featuring the new technology. Microsoft Chief Technical Strategy Officer Eric Rudder also showed off video from a lab test in which a display was projected onto an entire room, allowing a player to become more fully immersed in an Xbox game.



"Some companies talk about reality distortion fields ??we built one," Rudder said in a jab at Microsoft's rival Apple.

Samsung also showed off a smartphone with a display that curves around the edge of the device. And a concept video showcased a phone that could be unfolded and turned into a tablet.

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Samsung demonstrates a bendable Youm screen.


At the conclusion of Wednesday's press conference, Clinton took the stage to promote the Samsung Hope for Children foundation, of which he the ambassador. The former president joked that when he became president in the early '90s, cell phones weighed 20 pounds and there were 50 websites on the Internet.

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Clinton took the stage for Samsung's day-two keynote at CES.


In his speech, Clinton said technology plays an integral role in improving life, whether it's through cutting costs in medical records systems or connecting people and ideas from around the world.

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Samsung also announced its new eight-core Exynos 5 "Octa" chip during Wednesday's presentation. Based on the Cortex A15 architecture, Samsung claimed the 28-nanometer-process chip offers twice the 3D gaming performance of any other mobile processor currently available.
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"Some companies talk about reality distortion fields"? I don't recall Apple ever saying "reality distortion field."

In any case, wrapping the display around the edges of a smartphone brick is the least imaginative thing I can think of. I'd like to see something like...active camouflage jackets using this tech.

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Clinton and Samsung in bed together. Never knew it would get that low.
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Is anyone keeping a scorecard on Apple jabs that translate into ZERO action on the part of the jabber?
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"Some companies talk about reality distortion fields"? I don't recall Apple ever saying "reality distortion field."

 

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field

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Originally Posted by Roberto Rivera View Post
FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field

 

Yes, but Apple has never used the term officially or in any other context.

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Yes, but Apple has never used the term officially or in any other context.

 

It was apparently a self-referrential "jab".

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Clinton and Samsung in bed together. Never knew it would get that low.

 

 

Use to be, Bill sleeps with anything or anyone cause he's a 'horn dog'!  Now he pimps himself out for money...

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Funny how Samsung's prototypes need Microsoft's support. Apple products are supported by Apple software. Enough said.
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Is anyone keeping a scorecard on Apple jabs that translate into ZERO action on the part of the jabber?

 

Don't really need to, it's like a 3 year old... ok, 5 year old, no wait, 8 year old going against Mike Tyson.  They can jab all they want, but when Mike punches back they will be out cold.  Sorry, the "we did it first" don't cut it anymore.  Remember folks, Apple did not do the first smart phone, or tablet, but when they did it, everyone seem to drop their jaw then scramble to copy/reproduce Apples items.  M$ needs to learn this little "we did it first" phrase has no one listening.

 

For you little M$ fanboy's think of this way, Ford did the first Horseless Carriage.  Let's put that against say, a BMW or other high end car of today.  Can that be a good thing to say "we did it first" for the first Horseless Carriage?

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Funny how Samsung's prototypes need Microsoft's support. Apple products are supported by Apple software. Enough said.

Odd that it wasn't Google.

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Samsung also had Bill Clinton introduce their new Lewin series hard drive. It's completely cloud based and the official name will be Lewin Sky Drive

The Koreans love Bill Clinton. Who else could secure the release of those American journalists from North Korea?

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Wow, rounded edge-to-edge screen is a holy grail of smartphone design. Hope apple is first on the market.
Edited by jason98 - 1/9/13 at 11:51am
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You can talk about things. 

 

Shipping a working, fleshed-out timely product to consumers, however, is an entirely different story. 

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Samsung Sucks Ballz
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It seems to me that CES is a land of promises, soon to be followed by a sea of drowned ideas.

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Clinton and Samsung in bed together. Never knew it would get that low.

I was disappointed in that as well. 

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"I'm an Apple fan, but... concerned... praise Google... sky is falling on Cupertino... Samsung is so innovative... Praise Android... I'm not a troll... list of my alleged Apple products..." /s

Like I said, this is a technology in search of a good reason to exist. I contend that wraparound displays for brick phones is not the next big thing, or even a particularly creative application of flexible display tech.

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I wonder what a case would look like to protect the screen or, if it is dropped, will it bounce around?

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Samsung Sucks Ballz

 

That easily explains why Clinton is on board.

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Video games are not allowed in my home and never will be. The glazed look in the eyes of the young people playing the games in the video is just sad. Go climb a tree, read a book, or go for a walk.
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"I'm an Apple fan, but... concerned... praise Google... sky is falling on Cupertino... Samsung is so innovative... Praise Android... I'm not a troll... list of my alleged Apple products..." /s
Like I said, this is a technology in search of a good reason to exist. I contend that wraparound displays for brick phones is not the next big thing, or even a particularly creative application of flexible display tech.

I can think of a couple of 'neat' ideas. Not sure on the execution as you would need software to determine accidental vs purposeful touches, but volume sliders, page scrolling, are two that come to mind.
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So made a flexible OLED display that will never be used, and if it is used will not sell at all due to its impracticability and extremely high price. Well, that'll be...hmm...$200 Bil off of Apple's market cap...Microsoft is going to put projectors into every gamer's room to make a full room experience, well that'll take a 'jab' at Apple's massive console-gaming market, let's put their stock down to $13...and Samsung announced an 8 core chip, for what? Smartphones!!!??? Holy shit frick butthole damn we just have to have the power of a Mac Pro in a device that needs only a quarter of the power to function and anything more will take away from it's battery life and actually bottleneck it's performance due to Android's inefficient kernal...well, that brings Apple's stock down to $-59847987459873245908732094857239408572345637548767887678767877345987394875239805723409587324095872345098750687345987209873245098723049587234095872349085723094857098237450987234098732409587234095872345098732450987324509873245098723450987324508372549863247652347653247865347865 and it's market share down to -98349802%, while it owes Samsung $93204982098240924309823402 billion for stealing all of their designs, so $-894873489724398 in the bank....looks like APPLE IS DOOMED.

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I can think of a couple of 'neat' ideas. Not sure on the execution as you would need software to determine accidental vs purposeful touches, but volume sliders, page scrolling, are two that come to mind.

Oh, I keep thinking of something related to anything BUT the smartphone industry: say textiles. Clothes with animated logos of graphics. Automobile skins that are completely covered with flexible OLEDs. Stuff like that. I don't want a wraparound display in a smartphone.

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Don't really need to, it's like a 3 year old... ok, 5 year old, no wait, 8 year old going against Mike Tyson.  They can jab all they want, but when Mike punches back they will be out cold.  Sorry, the "we did it first" don't cut it anymore.  Remember folks, Apple did not do the first smart phone, or tablet, but when they did it, everyone seem to drop their jaw then scramble to copy/reproduce Apples items.  M$ needs to learn this little "we did it first" phrase has no one listening.

 

For you little M$ fanboy's think of this way, Ford did the first Horseless Carriage.  Let's put that against say, a BMW or other high end car of today.  Can that be a good thing to say "we did it first" for the first Horseless Carriage?

While I agree with your point in theory, I do find it necessary to point out that there were many cars before Ford.  Ford revolutionized the industry by creating the assembly line and allowing mass production at low cost.  He did not in any way invent the car.

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Oh Bill... 1oyvey.gif

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Apple needs to catch up on display technology rather than just buying off the shelf and repackaging others technology.

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You want irony?  Clinton is hawking Samsung while Eric Schmidt is in North Korea, negotiating for a prisoner release (among pushing his company, of course).  

 

That's classic.

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FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field

"Bill Clinton's charisma has been called a reality distortion field."

 

Cheers

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Samsung's day-two keynote at CES was full of surprises, including new bendable screen technology called "Youm...
Helping Samsung to unveil flexible Youm displays...

Surprise,

new,

unveil.

 

3 words that shouldn't be used on displays that were surprisingly new and unveiled 2 years ago at CES 2011.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZkU-GEZ72s

 

If they still haven't found a good use for them in 2 years then I wouldn't hold my breath for anything revolutionary. If anything is released it'll be just so they can actually use this pointless display tech.

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Clinton and Samsung in bed together. Never knew it would get that low.

 

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Use to be, Bill sleeps with anything or anyone cause he's a 'horn dog'!  Now he pimps himself out for money...

 

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Samsung also had Bill Clinton introduce their new Lewin series hard drive. It's completely cloud based and the official name will be Lewin Sky Drive

 

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I was disappointed in that as well. 

 

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That easily explains why Clinton is on board.

 

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Oh Bill... 1oyvey.gif

 

Etc... etc.

 

C'mon guys. Read the article. It says: "Clinton took the stage to promote the Samsung Hope for Children foundation, of which he the ambassador."

 

If he wants to do this because Samsung is providing help to the Clinton Global Foundation -- which probably does more good works around the world than most of you will in your lifetimes -- or global good causes near to his heart, that is his wont. Apple could ask for the same if it wanted to, and I am sure he would more than happily do it.

 

I realize that many of us (me included) dislike Samsung in these parts, but fair is fair.1oyvey.gif

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IS THAT THE NEW SHAPED DISPLAY SAMSUNG WAS HINTING AT?

ROUNDED CORNERS!?
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The xbox thing seemed kinda neat but don't know if it would make gaming more enjoyable. I mean with book cases and all the other things around your TV it just seems like it would be a messy image around the TV. I guess if you had your TV mounted in the center of a white wall it would be cool visually but still gimmicky.
As far as the bendable screen I have 2 issues. First the phone with wrapped around screen on edges. Wouldn't this be a nuisance. After all the screen is touch sensitive so how would you hold your phone without activating a point of touch on the edges of the screen. Would Microsoft and Samsung tell consumers "they are holding the phone wrong" (had to do it since it's such a favorite of Android fans). I suppose if the edges were not part of the touch points and had active information on them such as notifications it could work but still not that useful, especially since you couldn't select anything (I suppose you could swipe it over to show on the flat section edge and be able to access it with touch). The second is the foldable screen idea turning into a tablet. I've heard consumers complain about a raised bezel on a phone so what would they say about creases? I doubt they can make the screen feel smooth when unfolded. Who knows though seeing it's just a concept.
I'd be more interested if they can make a tablet that rolls up so you can easily read your paper every morning on the porch and still be able to swat flies with, while they buzz around your ears, if need be.
In other words just more gimmicky than useful. Of course that's the point of these shows is to wow people with new gimmicky tech that is dreamt up.
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The full room projector is an interesting idea... but if you think about it, I don't know how they could ever turn it into a real world product.

 

In the room they show it in, the TV is set back from the surrounding shelves, but the image reaches the front of the shelves.  This means there must be a projector behind the player. Since you're projecting a 3D scene into a 2D image onto a 3D surface, you have to perfectly match the player's viewing angle. This means you'll need some sort of head tracking, and everyone but the player will see distorted imagery.  Since you can't have the projector exactly where the player's eyes are, this means you'll get some kind of gap in the image where the TV shadows the back wall.  So now there are two projectors?

 

(actually going back, some clips show images on the shelves, other only show it on the back wall *through* the shelves, wtf? And in the "scanning" clip it somehow projects to the front of the shelves but misses the tv screen?)

 

Now what resolution do your two projectors have to be to not look crazy-pixelated when projected onto the walls? Add that rendering load to your console which already has to push out 1080p (or 4k if you believe the other announcements).

 

Add in motion sickness and cost if you ever got this to work and ... well ... why are they showing this video?

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I was disappointed in that as well. 

 

Oh come on now.  Cut Bill some slack.

 

Apple has Al Gore.  And he sold out to Al Jazerra.

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Still think Samsung and Microsoft cannot innovate?

 

The fact is that no company can survive or thrive in the CE space without some ability to innovate. It just happens at different levels at different companies. And different companies achieve different levels of success in delivering their innovation as a packaged products.

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Video games are not allowed in my home and never will be. The glazed look in the eyes of the young people playing the games in the video is just sad. Go climb a tree, read a book, or go for a walk.


My favorite digital games are Photoshop and Word and the only "level" I want to get to is to create something new and hopefully a little unique and exciting.  The idea of mucking about in someone else's pre-defined scenarios of wham, pow, bang and crash has never appealed for a micro-second.

I believe it was Steve Jobs who first described personal computers as "power tools for the mind" - but whoever it was, I've never been able to get why so many willingly spend so much time on this form of "digital crack" which, however sophisticated and visually impressive it becomes, instead of empowering, reduces them to zombies with controllers......  ....and I never will.

On the other hand, not claiming any "superiority" here as I have subjected myself to more than a fair amount of crap on TV......  ...but on the whole I try to aim for creative or educational or physically fit recreation.....

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