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This obviously isn't an iPhone discussion, but I've postulated that Apple could double the resolution of the iPhone 5, stretch it onto a 5 inch screen and have a "Super Retina" display of sorts. 2272 x 1280 pixels is still less than the Retina iPad (2.9 million versus 3.1 million) so such a device could use an A6X and be very speedy and relatively efficient.

 

How does that sound for a Super iPhone (iPhone X or Pro or whatever they would call it). But I would imagine the price would be $849 or more for the "base" model.

 

They need the IGZO screen to move to a full HD (1920x1080) bigger iphone.  IGZO will allow more pixels with very low power consumption.  In the furure I expect Apple to continu to carry the 4" screen and add a bigger model. They may also make a less expensive (but not cheap) iphone for emerging markets.

 

The thing I would also love them to do is to start building iOS phones for others, like facebook, yahoo, amazon, ...  This would be a nice way to expand the part of ecosystem (like apps) and still turn a profit out of it.

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The thing I would also love them to do is to start building iOS phones for others, like facebook, yahoo, amazon, ...  This would be a nice way to expand the part of ecosystem (like apps) and still turn a profit out of it.

 

This will absolutely never happen.

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lets just say I'll believe it when I see it. I'm not sure how I feel about Apple upgrading their refresh cycles. Especially when they're not updating software that frequently. It either becomes 'meh' or pisses people off. I suppose its hard to hold back technology but if I purchased a 4th gen iPad and then 6 months later the 5th gen comes out which is thinner and lighter and has even better battery life I'd be pissed. It's not like this stuff is super cheap. And going to a faster refresh cycle would probably bring down the resale value of existing stuff.

 

 

thats complete BS. imo you have to be retarded to not expect youre tech toy to be outdated in the near future. I bought the ipad 3 and the ipad 4 refresh didnt bother me at all. On the other hand it keeps new buyers coming and to some degree expand ipad sales until the next refresh.

 

Imagine if they would have roll out the new mini and no ipad 4 updated.  The ipad 3 sales would have completly died down, they ipad mini already outsell the ipad 4 by a factor of 2 to 1.

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They need the IGZO screen to move to a full HD (1920x1080) bigger iphone. 

I see absolutely no reason for the iPhone to follow the resolution of an HDTV.

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This will absolutely never happen.

 

Can I quote you next week?

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Can I quote you next week?

 

If Apple starts, "building iOS phones for others, like facebook, yahoo, amazon," you can quote me whenever you like.

 

You'll never be quoting me under those conditions, though. Never. The earth will be destroyed in a collision with an asteroid before your scenario happens.

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I see absolutely no reason for the iPhone to follow the resolution of an HDTV.

 

would be nice to have pixel for pixel airplay.  This is a nice feature of the 21.5" 1080p imac, you airplay it pixel for pixel on the TV, retaining desktop size.

 

dont forget Apple as a "high interest" in the TV space.  Iphone apps that match the resolution of a HD TV is a big plus on the app side for both devices.

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Sounds good to me!

 

I don't give a crap about those people who just bought a new iPad 4 or an iPad Mini. Like most people commenting on these articles, my viewpoint is 100% egotistical and I only care about what's good for me.

 

I need more power, since I need to run some extremely CPU intensive apps, and my iPad 3 is simply not cutting it anymore.

 

I'll most likely pick up an iPad 5 if it gets released in the spring.

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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post
Can I quote you next week?

 

"Building devices for other companies under their branding"?

You can quote him until the freaking heat death of the Universe. Quote ME, too!

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They aren't updating the mini in two months. When you sell out of a product and can't keep them on shelves a full two months after release you aren't going to update it again after two-three more months. It makes no business sense. You meet high demand with availability not major changes. And, I've said this before, as a user of the mini the screen is not that bad. I'm never sitting there using it saying "man I wish this was a retina screen." Pundits just needed something to complain about.

 

Lastly, the retina iPad did not increase in price from the previous non-retina version, the retina iPhone (4) did not increase in price from the previous non-retina version (3GS), and the retina iPad mini will not increase in price either. The mini will come out in the fall. It will have retina. It will start at $329.

 

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The thing I would also love them to do is to start building iOS phones for others, like facebook, yahoo, amazon, ...  This would be a nice way to expand the part of ecosystem (like apps) and still turn a profit out of it.

 

 

There is no way in sam hell Apple would do that.

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As I said earlier, I doubt very much that Apple considers, "the resale value of existing stuff," when deciding if and when they are ready to release a new product, nor should they. It's also a ridiculous expectation that they should artificially delay products so that people who bought the previous version can feel properly smug for a good 9-12 months. It's not like purchasing a product comes with some sort of entitlement that no one will have anything better for at least 12 months. They should release new versions when they have something significantly better to offer. You should buy what you need, when you need it. And by doing more frequent releases, Apple would be giving you the best possible value for your money at any given time.
I guess I'm not convinced the public is ready for six-month upgrade cycles. Seems to me the 4th gen is what they wanted the 3rd gen to be and the 5th gen will be what they really wanted the 4th gen to be. One of the reasons I didn't get a 4th gen was the concern there would be a 5th gen right around the corner (they need something to fill the hole in spring 2013). Faster upgrade cycles might make people hold off thinking they can get 6 more months or whatever out of their existing device.
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If we get a Spring upgrade all I expect is a case redesign. The new chips for the internals won't be ready till fall.

I know- that was my point.  Only a case redesign isn't enough to warrant a change- as significant as that is.

 

That's why I say the fall for the big iPad.  The Mini could get an update when they find a way to get Retina without compromising weight or battery life significantly.

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would be nice to have pixel for pixel airplay.  This is a nice feature of the 21.5" 1080p imac, you airplay it pixel for pixel on the TV, retaining desktop size.

dont forget Apple as a "high interest" in the TV space.  Iphone apps that match the resolution of a HD TV is a big plus on the app side for both devices.

Let's consider this. You don't just want pixel for pixel, you want every pixel utilized. That means you'd want every iOS-based iDevice and every Mac to have the same resolution and aspect ratio. That's just not realistic.

And if Apple does create a TV or creates a digibox for a TV what happens when 4K TVs take off? They probably aren't as far away as people think they are. Remember when we went from SD to HD? That was multiple resolutions and an aspect ratio change. With a 4K TV we're really just talking about 4x as many pixels much like with the iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 which in totality makes it a simpler overall jump. Would we than make the iPod Touch a 4K resolution? Of course not.

There are just too many variances to have the same resolution across the board even if does make AirPlay look a little nicer. But is that an issue for people since they watch movies on their 16:9 HDTVs that have black bars on the top and bottom.

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thats complete BS. imo you have to be retarded to not expect youre tech toy to be outdated in the near future. I bought the ipad 3 and the ipad 4 refresh didnt bother me at all. On the other hand it keeps new buyers coming and to some degree expand ipad sales until the next refresh.

Imagine if they would have roll out the new mini and no ipad 4 updated.  The ipad 3 sales would have completly died down, they ipad mini already outsell the ipad 4 by a factor of 2 to 1.
Perhaps the mini is outselling the iPad because its thinner and lighter and its a re-design? Or people just really like the smaller form factor. I'm curious how many companies release new hardware on their flagship products every 6 months? I'm assuming if they do they're not re-designed products and are just updating the innards.
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Sounds good to me!

 

I don't give a crap about those people who just bought a new iPad 4 or an iPad Mini. Like most people commenting on these articles, my viewpoint is 100% egotistical and I only care about what's good for me.

 

I need more power, since I need to run some extremely CPU intensive apps, and my iPad 3 is simply not cutting it anymore.

 

I'll most likely pick up an iPad 5 if it gets released in the spring.

As rich as you are, why not throw the iPad 3 off the balcony of your penthouse and send your butler to go get a 4?

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They absolutly must keep a shorter refresh cycle and above all break the pretictable upgrade patterns to avoid the major dried out of sales ahead of the refresh. They need to find a way to keep sales more constant all year long and dodge the the impossible to meet demand after expected launches.

 

This might be true of the iPhone lately, and is the one reason I mentioned the iPhone, but it isn't true of the iPad at all. iPad sales are all over the map before and after release dates.

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If Apple goes to faster release cycles, they get criticized for "obsoleting" products too quickly. If they only release once a year, they get criticized for going too long between updates. I don't see that they need to be slaves to the calendar. If they can release a new product with significant enhancements, they should do so when they are ready to do it.

I doubt Apple is looking to have two releases per year. I think they are just moving to a more random release of products so as to disrupt their competitors' marketing plans. At one release per year Apple was a sitting target that all other brands could plan their marketing around.

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The laptops used to be updated exactly as often as the iPad is becoming. Never had any numbers. Works perfectly fine.

ALL PRODUCTS can be handled perfectly well without artificial numbering. 
Exactly. This is exactly what I expect Apple to do, and more or less what they have already done with the iPad by simply calling it the New iPad with the 3rd generation. Once they drop the iPad 2 there will just be the iPad and iPad mini.

Your reasoning here is exactly why I would expect Apple at this point to make a dedicated iPhone mini to sell in the bottom two tiers rather than continue their current model of bumping last years model down a peg, now that the iPhone 5 seems to have achieved a likely parity with future models. Why not just have the iPhone and iPhone mini upgraded every six months as need be without constant rebranding?

Only hold major announcements for the big design/feature changes, exactly the way they do with the Macs. While it may be a big deal to some, routine processor upgrades are downplayed by Apple for the most part, why should this be any different with the iPad and iPhone, as you suggest?
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As rich as you are, why not throw the iPad 3 off the balcony of your penthouse and send your butler to go get a 4?

Who said that I was rich? I doubt that it was me, because I'm not. If I wanted an iPad 4, I would have bought one right when it came out. I made a deliberate decision to skip a model, and I am waiting for the iPad 5, before upgrading.

 

And with the way that AAPL has been behaving lately, I might have to apply for welfare soon and settle for an Android phone or maybe even an Obamaphone, if I qualify.lol.gif

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I guess I'm not convinced the public is ready for six-month upgrade cycles. Seems to me the 4th gen is what they wanted the 3rd gen to be and the 5th gen will be what they really wanted the 4th gen to be. One of the reasons I didn't get a 4th gen was the concern there would be a 5th gen right around the corner (they need something to fill the hole in spring 2013). Faster upgrade cycles might make people hold off thinking they can get 6 more months or whatever out of their existing device.

 

No, faster upgrade cycles insure that,

 

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... Apple would be giving you the best possible value for your money at any given time.

 

It takes away the "fear" of buying/upgrading, because there's no increased value in waiting. With more unpredictable, possibly more frequent, releases, if you operate under a psychology of waiting for "the right time", you might never buy. For normal (in the psychological sense) people, if there's never a right time, anytime is the right time.

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I doubt Apple is looking to have two releases per year. I think they are just moving to a more random release of products so as to disrupt their competitors' marketing plans. At one release per year Apple was a sitting target that all other brands could plan their marketing around.

 

Indeed, another benefit of unpredictability.

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They need the IGZO screen to move to a full HD (1920x1080) bigger iphone.  IGZO will allow more pixels with very low power consumption.  In the furure I expect Apple to continu to carry the 4" screen and add a bigger model. They may also make a less expensive (but not cheap) iphone for emerging markets.

 

Apple isn't going to just throw together an iPhone with HD resolution and have all the app developers have to make their apps in another resolution just for the HD iPhone and retain all the other resolutions for previous iPhones still sold.

 

For Apps, it's best for Apple to just double the resolution so that old apps still workout letter boxing or getting pixelated, and it's easy for developers to modify apps for the increased resolution.

 

That's why I said Apple could double the resolution of the iPhone 5 for a 5 inch iPhone. The screen itself would look stunning, apps would look great, and movies would look good as well.


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Who said that I was rich? I doubt that it was me, because I'm not. If I wanted an iPad 4, I would have bought one right when it came out. I made a deliberate decision to skip a model, and I am waiting for the iPad 5, before upgrading.

 

And with the way that AAPL has been behaving lately, I might have to apply for welfare soon and settle for an Android phone or maybe even an Obamaphone, if I qualify.lol.gif

I was just kidding.  It's just that I picture you looking like the monopoly man with a cane and top hat looking down on the peasants that can't have Apple products.  Let's be honest... you're a little smug... :)

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They aren't updating the mini in two months. When you sell out of a product and can't keep them on shelves a full two months after release you aren't going to update it again after two-three more months. It makes no business sense. You meet high demand with availability not major changes. And, I've said this before, as a user of the mini the screen is not that bad. I'm never sitting there using it saying "man I wish this was a retina screen." Pundits just needed something to complain about.

 

Lastly, the retina iPad did not increase in price from the previous non-retina version, the retina iPhone (4) did not increase in price from the previous non-retina version (3GS), and the retina iPad mini will not increase in price either. The mini will come out in the fall. It will have retina. It will start at $329.

 

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There is no way in sam hell Apple would do that.

 

I could be wrong, but I don't think Apple will be able to get the margins they want if they price a Retina Mini at $329. The reason the current Mini was able to attain that price point was because it uses 2 year old technology. 

 

A Retina Mini would need all the latest internals that are in the iPad 4 plus newer technology to shave weight and size to accommodate the technology.

 

That's why I'm 90% sure the Retina Mini is going to cost more than $329. This Spring they'll probably announce the Retina model as a higher end addition to the iPad Mini lineup, meaning the current model that came out a few months ago will continue to sell as is with the Retina being the "flagship" of the iPad Mini lineup.

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I was just kidding.  It's just that I picture you looking like the monopoly man with a cane and top hat looking down on the peasants that can't have Apple products.  Let's be honest... you're a little smug... :)

 

That's funny, the monopoly man? I guess that people do form an image of certain posters, based solely on their written words. I did sprain my foot about one year ago, so I was walking around with a cane for about a week, but other than that, I don't really look much like the monopoly man.lol.gif

 

And yeah, I am probably slightly smug, but is that a crime? 1smoking.gif And besides, I will often exaggerate my smugness, because I know that Fandroids and a few other people will get upset, and I admit that I derive personal satisfaction from pissing certain people off.

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I know- that was my point.  Only a case redesign isn't enough to warrant a change- as significant as that is.

 

That's why I say the fall for the big iPad.  The Mini could get an update when they find a way to get Retina without compromising weight or battery life significantly.

Probably a bad example but, BMW does the same thing with their cars.

 

When they remodel a car they change the exterior design but leave the engines untouched and unchanged. Then a couple years after the remodel they refresh the car by upgrading the engines, but keeping the exterior the same. Mercedes-Benz does this as well I believe.

 

It pretty much means there's always "something new" even though only one thing gets upgraded at a time. It keeps those companies in the media and mags because everyone wants to either test the new engine or new design.

 

I think Apple may be going for something like that. I think that would even be a good idea for the iPhone, but if done upgrades should be sooner than once a year...

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I am an Apple fan and like my new iPhone 5 a lot!!! But... I do hope Apple at some point updates iOS (I know iOS 6 just came out) to be more dynamic and multi-functional as Samsung is doing with Android and Windows is doing with WinMo8. I dislike both those companies, but I do like what they are doing with their mobile OS' - better multi-tasking, always updating and revising the UI... iOS is nice and good, but it's getting a little stale UI wise.

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Not how it works. Apples service stock is separate. A warranty swap is like for like even if you are paying for an out of warranty swap. Because they keep making units for service. Only on very rare occassions do they swap up. But it has to be very particular times and is generally due to a supply issue not the reason for the swap, customer nagging etc. .

 

Well yeah, the service stock is all refurbished stock anyway.  

I was thinking that they wouldn't necessarily keep that refurbished stock on hand for very long after the new version had come out.  

Personally I'd be more than happy to pick up a new IGZO iPad mini with a faster processor in March, but it still seems a bit odd to me.  

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Is your banned list accurate? Are those people officially banned?

 

I see some names there that I recognize as trolls, but I also see a few others that were not anti-Apple trolls, and I was just curious about your list.

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I don't think IGZO is enough. You also need to process all those pixels that get pushed to the display. This is where the next generation GPUs would have to play a role. Again I ask, will they be ready for the Spring? Will be IGZO be ready for the spring?

 

IGZO is 90% power savings over the current iPad mini display though.  If they can manage to move to a smaller process for the processor as well, then it would be quite easy to keep the iPad mini battery size and case size but with a retina display as well as a faster processor and more RAM.  

 

I'm no expert but it seems to me that it's quite possible that they could come out with a new iPad the same design as the mini, plus a mini iPad using Retina no problem.  

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IGZO is 90% power savings over the current iPad mini display though.  If they can manage to move to a smaller process for the processor as well, then it would be quite easy to keep the iPad mini battery size and case size but with a retina display as well as a faster processor and more RAM.  

I'm no expert but it seems to me that it's quite possible that they could come out with a new iPad the same design as the mini, plus a mini iPad using Retina no problem.  

I don't think so. You're talking about the display power, not the data that gets processed for the display. The lithography is already at 32nm. Going to 28nm will help but it will not be a huge difference. You'll need a more advanced GPU in order to shore up the numbers. The only thing I am aware of it Rogue 6 but that's not slated for this Summer and then you have the iPad mini (and iPod Touch) being a 1 generation behind the iPad and iPhone on the ASIC so that tells me 2014 based on the current data.

And what about cost? How much more are you willing to pay for this display? that is the same PPI as the iPhone but the same resolution as the iPad? Why is no one recalling what a huge event the Retina iPad was less than a year ago and yet now think it can be done in a much smaller volume device with no limitations. There is a reason the iPad mini shipped with no retina display and anyone that was expecting one was ignorant of the physics or lying to themselves.

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I could be wrong, but I don't think Apple will be able to get the margins they want if they price a Retina Mini at $329. The reason the current Mini was able to attain that price point was because it uses 2 year old technology. 

A Retina Mini would need all the latest internals that are in the iPad 4 plus newer technology to shave weight and size to accommodate the technology.

That's why I'm 90% sure the Retina Mini is going to cost more than $329. This Spring they'll probably announce the Retina model as a higher end addition to the iPad Mini lineup, meaning the current model that came out a few months ago will continue to sell as is with the Retina being the "flagship" of the iPad Mini lineup.
was the 3rd gen more expensive than the 2nd gen? Was the iPhone 4 more expensive than the 3GS?
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I could be wrong, but I don't think Apple will be able to get the margins they want if they price a Retina Mini at $329. The reason the current Mini was able to attain that price point was because it uses 2 year old technology. 

 

A Retina Mini would need all the latest internals that are in the iPad 4 plus newer technology to shave weight and size to accommodate the technology.

 

That's why I'm 90% sure the Retina Mini is going to cost more than $329. This Spring they'll probably announce the Retina model as a higher end addition to the iPad Mini lineup, meaning the current model that came out a few months ago will continue to sell as is with the Retina being the "flagship" of the iPad Mini lineup.

If they release the retina iPad mini in November then it'll be using ~2 year old "new" iPad (3rd gen) tech so shouldn't component costs be reduced?

 

We shouldn't kid ourselves. They didn't just up and release the mini. Had to be at least a year in dev before release which means they've been working on the retina mini already enough to get their manufacturing right to hit that price point. I don't see them releasing a regular iPad mini with updated internals while also releasing a retina iPad mini. They do this with the Macbooks but if they don't do it with the iPad maxi I don't see it being done with the iPad mini.

 

Sidenote - do they release a > 10" iPad eventually and call it the iPad maxi? Imagine the lulz.

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was the 3rd gen more expensive than the 2nd gen? Was the iPhone 4 more expensive than the 3GS?

iPad starts at $500 and iPhone starts at $650.

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I've been an Apple fan since 86 and would love to see Apple decrease the times between models. It also helps sell more devices because if you like to keep up with tech the older devices are handed down or sold at good resale prices.
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If they release the retina iPad mini in November then it'll be using ~2 year old "new" iPad (3rd gen) tech so shouldn't component costs be reduced?

 

We shouldn't kid ourselves. They didn't just up and release the mini. Had to be at least a year in dev before release which means they've been working on the retina mini already enough to get their manufacturing right to hit that price point. I don't see them releasing a regular iPad mini with updated internals while also releasing a retina iPad mini. They do this with the Macbooks but if they don't do it with the iPad maxi I don't see it being done with the iPad mini.

 

Sidenote - do they release a > 10" iPad eventually and call it the iPad maxi? Imagine the lulz.

Should I remind you that the iPad 3 was thicker and heavier than the iPad 2?

 

Is that the technology you want in the Retina Mini?

 

In order to keep the size and performance Apple will have to employ all new technology. That's why I believe the price is going to be higher than the current model, which has 2 year old internal components.

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Should I remind you that the iPad 3 was thicker and heavier than the iPad 2?

 

Is that the technology you want in the Retina Mini?

 

In order to keep the size and performance Apple will have to employ all new technology. That's why I believe the price is going to be higher than the current model, which has 2 year old internal components.

 

But IGZO (whenever it's ready) will not require a thicker battery necessarily, due to much lower power consumption.  Is there any indication that IGZO will cost more than current screen technology?

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I've been an Apple fan since 86 and would love to see Apple decrease the times between models. It also helps sell more devices because if you like to keep up with tech the older devices are handed down or sold at good resale prices.
how do you get good resale prices when what you're selling will most likely be 2 generations old 6 months (or less) after you buy it?

Just like I think it would be a mistake for Apple to compete in a race to the bottom I also think its a mistake for them to try and compete spec wise with every Android and Windows OEM out there. Now I don't think Apple needs to stick to some rigid product schedule but I do think they should only release when they've got something really great (especially on the software side). Otherwise their product releases are going to be no big deal because they happen so frequently.
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iPad starts at $500 and iPhone starts at $650.
But the 2nd gen iPad started at $499 and so did the 3rd, right? So why would a retina mini go up in price when the retina iPad didn't?
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But IGZO (whenever it's ready) will not require a thicker battery necessarily, due to much lower power consumption.  Is there any indication that IGZO will cost more than current screen technology?

 

 
We probably won't fully know the answer to that until they can actually get the yields of the displays up.  

 

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But the 2nd gen iPad started at $499 and so did the 3rd, right? So why would a retina mini go up in price when the retina iPad didn't?

 

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