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post #81 of 88
1/16/13 at 1:21am
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Originally Posted by blackbook View Post

Ah yes now I remember the Blackberry Storm. Seems like such a distant terrible memory.

And you're also right about relying on software because androids with no buttons freeze when apps crash and have to be rebooted.

The home button is a nice fail safe for now but I still think Apple will bid rid of it on an iOS device in the future.

Gruber got into it on one of his talk shows, how fundamental the home button is on iOS devices, and how frustrating the lack of one is on Android devices. Something about how a little kid will come to rely on it to get out of trouble, how it is a touchstone for the device in an important psychological way for all of us.

There's a reason why it's called the "Home" button. We need for there to be a place to always go to, and I suspect they've given a huge amount of thought to its feel, reliability, and its meaning as the node point where the software meets the hardware and our fingers. That little house icon on an Android phone causes an instant, strange rise of hostility in me. I don't think I can get past it, and so I'll never be a candidate for crossing over. What they've done, Android, is abstracted Home, and I don't think you should ever do that.
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post #82 of 88
1/16/13 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post

Do you have any sort of cognitive problem?

Do you see a 450 € 2 year old phone (4) where most people earn 500 to 1000€ per month as "cheap"?

 

Anyway, I don't like this idea. Apple's "problem" is related with screen size (they would sell a lot of 5 inch phones) and stupid people that think that the iphone is less powerful than most other phones because it is dual core. Basically that's it.

Americans don't understand that free on contract is not free. 

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post #83 of 88
1/16/13 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


Right, and they'll remove it when it's no longer iOS. But it's gonna be iOS for a good long while.


There's a reason the BlackBerry Storm and Storm 2 sucked so many metaphorical eggs. And it was basically that.


Not iOS. Different story. You can't assign that swipe to that function; it breaks every app ever made.


Again, breaks apps.


And I specifically stated those gestures lock up when an app locks up. So you HAVE to have a hardware "out".

Which doesn't take you out of the app, so it solves nothing. I suppose if you want to forcibly shut your device down every time an app hangs, that's one way of doing it.

It's the Windows 98 way, but it's a way.
The home button will always be there in some way yet many problems may arise.
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post #84 of 88
1/17/13 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by asdasd View Post

Americans don't understand that free on contract is not free. 

 

Same here in Canada.  It's depressing how shocked people are when they find out how the cell industry works...

 

"What?? It costs $700 to replace? But I only paid $150!!"

 

Or even worse, people who buy contract-free phones but end up staying with the same carrier for years anyways (note to those not from North America: we pay the same monthly rate whether we get a phone out of it or not).  $550 subsidy over 36 months = $15.28 a month you're giving the carrier for no reason!

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post #85 of 88
1/22/13 at 11:35am
Why is this a bad thing? I'm really not understanding everyone's opposition to the idea. Apple will always have loyal customers who have bought their products over the years. But, there's definitely a more main-stream public need for a cheaper iPhone. Lesser quality would be necessary, but that doesn't mean it has to be cheap crap, just more accessible by people who can't afford to dish out a good amount of money (a lot of money for lots of people) for a smartphone if they'd prefer it be an Apple product. Yes there are much cheaper products out there by other brands, but why let those companies get all the business just because people instantly think they need something cheaper above their choice of brand. I think if Apple released a less expensive iPhone, it would be beneficial for the company in a few respects.
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post #86 of 88
1/22/13 at 11:45am
Originally Posted by AWest23 View Post
But, there's definitely a more main-stream public need for a cheaper iPhone. 

 

Why? Where? Who? The "mainstream" has already said they want the iPhone as-is.


…people who can't afford to dish out a good amount of money (a lot of money for lots of people) for a smartphone if they'd prefer it be an Apple product.

 

Ever think that Apple doesn't cater to the bargain bin crowd on purpose?

PhilBoogie
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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post #87 of 88
1/22/13 at 11:58am

Thanks for the reply, but was the condescension necessary? I'm new to this site.. jeez.
 

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post #88 of 88
1/22/13 at 11:59am
Originally Posted by AWest23 View Post
Thanks for the reply, but was the condescension necessary? I'm new to this site.. jeez.

 

What condescension? These are questions that just aren't being answered by anyone claiming Apple "needs" a cheaper phone.

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That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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