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Separate app takes up space on iCloud and your device storage

Apps 'backed up in iCloud' do not count against your storage space. You can freely re-download them, to any compatible device.
post #122 of 127
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Apps 'backed up in iCloud' do not count against your storage space. You can freely re-download them, to any compatible device.

App data counts against you and I would imagine there would be a bit of data needing to be saved.

I'm not saying its a huge problem but I agree that the features of the CardStar app should be native in Passbook.

Especially since you can't delete native apps in favor of 3rd party app that do the task better.
post #123 of 127
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Apps 'backed up in iCloud' do not count against your storage space. You can freely re-download them, to any compatible device.

App data counts against you and I would imagine there would be a bit of data needing to be saved.

I'm not saying its a huge problem but I agree that the features of the CardStar app should be native in Passbook.

Especially since you can't delete native apps in favor of 3rd party app that do the task better.

That's not what Apple says:

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/#apps
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4874?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
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iCloud customers are provided with 5 GB of free cloud storage. Purchased music, movies, TV shows, apps, and books, as well as photos in your Photo Stream don't count against your 5 GB of free storage.

And yes, you are right that you can't delete native apps.
And yes, it's annoying you can't configure iOS to have a 3rd party app as the default; even though you might've installed Opera, opening an URL launches Safari, which is a shame.
post #124 of 127
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That's not what Apple says:

http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/#apps
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4874?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
And yes, you are right that you can't delete native apps.
And yes, it's annoying you can't configure iOS to have a 3rd party app as the default; even though you might've installed Opera, opening an URL launches Safari, which is a shame.

That's interesting because on my iPhone when I go to Settings > iCloud > Storage & Backup > Manage Storage > Backups

 

I can see how much app data is occupying my iCloud. Currently app data and photos is taking up 13.7GB of space on my iCloud. My 3rd party app data ranges in size from a few KB to about 200MB.

 

So yes even though the apps themselves don't count against your storage app data does.

 

Anyway I see that my Passbook takes up almost 700KB of data space even though I only have 4 passes. This is when I would love to be able to delete some native apps and replace them with 3rd party apps that just work better. Core native apps like Maps and Safari don't have to be delete-able, but having the ability to change your default apps for those services and having the ability to "hide" Maps and Safari would be great.

post #125 of 127
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That's interesting because on my iPhone when I go to Settings > iCloud > Storage & Backup > Manage Storage > Backups

I can see how much app data is occupying my iCloud. Currently app data and photos is taking up 13.7GB of space on my iCloud. My 3rd party app data ranges in size from a few KB to about 200MB.

So yes even though the apps themselves don't count against your storage app data does.

Looks like that actually makes sense. Data associated with an app is stored within the bundle AFAIK, you know, deleting iPhoto.ipa will delete the photo's that have been imported into that $4.99 app.

I took a peek at my end to compare against your 13.7GB and I only have 1.1GB in use:



But I must say that I don't backup to iCloud, so it might be different at my end.
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Anyway I see that my Passbook takes up almost 700KB of data space even though I only have 4 passes. This is when I would love to be able to delete some native apps and replace them with 3rd party apps that just work better. Core native apps like Maps and Safari don't have to be delete-able, but having the ability to change your default apps for those services and having the ability to "hide" Maps and Safari would be great.

The 3rd screendump is from a (now gone) free FileSystem.ipa utility which is a read only app that can browse (tada) the FileSystem. It looks like these iPhone apps are small and wouldn't make much difference if one were to delete unwanted native iOS apps. But this is pure speculation...

And I fully agree that one should be able to at least have a 3rd party app as the default, many people seem to want this. I don't care myself, but TEHO / YMMV and all that.
post #126 of 127
What's the use of a fingerprint sensor? I've seen many notebook computers with it, but didn't see any practical use for most people.
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What's the use of a fingerprint sensor? I've seen many notebook computers with it, but didn't see any practical use for most people.

 

Fingerprint sensors have been used since around the turn of the century on handheld devices.

 

Their primary use, of course, is for user identification, versus using an unlock code or gesture.   Most likely Apple would also use it  for verification of electronic payments, tickets, etc.

 

At least one phone in 2007, a Toshiba, also allowed setting up a different app launch per finger.   Pretty cool idea.  Quick unlock and launch of the camera, or texting, or email, and so forth.   It was also usable in some cases as a vertical scroll pad.

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