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Amazon's browser-based MP3 store has been optimized for the iPhone and iPod touch, allowing users to more easily purchase songs through their mobile Safari browser.

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Amazon's catalog of 22 million songs, now available on iOS devices at amazon.com/mp3, competes with Apple's own iTunes Store. While Apple has a dedicated iTunes application on iOS devices for selling content, users must open a browser to purchase through Amazon because of Apple's App Store rules.

Music purchases through Amazon are automatically saved to a user's "Cloud Player" library. Those tracks can be downloaded or played instantly from any iPhone, iPod touch or iPad using the official Amazon Cloud Player app.

"Since the launch of the Amazon Cloud Player app for iPhone and iPod touch, a top request from customers has been the ability to buy music from Amazon right from their devices," said Steve Boom, Vice President of Amazon Music. "For the first time ever, iOS users have a way do that ? now they can access Amazon's huge catalog of music, features like personalized recommendations, deals like albums for $5, songs for $0.69, and they can buy their music once and use it everywhere."

Features of the Amazon MP3 mobile store include:
  • Built on HTML5 and designed for iPhone and iPod touch.
  • Access to everyday deals like $5 albums, $0.69 songs, and free songs from artists on the rise.
  • Individualized recommendations based on purchase history.
  • Immediate availability and seamless playback of purchases in the Amazon Cloud Player app.
  • Free storage of all Amazon MP3 purchases in Amazon Cloud Player.

The Amazon Cloud Player application launched last June on the iOS App Store. Amazon does not sell songs through the app and requires users to launch a browser because Apple takes a 30 percent cut of all content sold through applications available in the iOS App Store.
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Optimized? Inspired by WP8, with cut-off text and all? I don't know, I buy from iTunes. What are the benefits of buying from Amazon? I know they are often cheaper, but you'll miss out on the Apple eco system, you know, buy on iPhone, see it pop up on iPad and all that.
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The Amazon Cloud Player application launched last June on the iOS App Store. Amazon does not sell songs through the app and requires users to launch a browser because Apple takes a 30 percent cut of all content sold through applications available in the iOS App Store.

 

That's a slick way to get around the system

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I buy from amazon because I'm cheap. (I know the irony since Apple is pricey). I add the songs to iTunes and sync my iDevices.
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I buy from amazon because I'm cheap. (I know the irony since Apple is pricey). I add the songs to iTunes and sync my iDevices.

Agreed. Amazon is:

- Cheaper than iTunes - massively when they have sales on
- Cross platform (i.e. doesn't lock you into iTunes)
- Has neat features like AutoRip so when you order your CD you instantly get the music too, for one price
- Has a great iOS app which syncs your music automatically when you buy an album (or manually if you prefer)
- the list goes on...
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...when you order your CD you instantly get the music too...

Was does this mean?
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I'm not going to say that Amazon is better than Apple but Apple really seems to have forgotten how to "ride the back of the bear" which was how Microsoft characterized their method of beating IBM at their own game. Apple did this perfectly for a while and the halo effect and the ability of people on other platforms to see and try Apple solutions grew them into the largest company (per market cap) in the U.S.

 

Amazon seems to be "riding the back of the bear" very well right now and I don't know if it will put them in Apple's position but it certainly hurts Apple and helps them. Google is doing the same thing as well. You look at iOS and even the Mac and Google and Amazon are offering a bunch of great solutions. Amazon has software that will download your purchases and automatically add them to iTunes. Google has similar software though not as nice yet but they give you the whole iCloud option for free.

 

When you look at the Apple solutions that work on other platforms, and understand this used to happen, you see nothing.

 

Apple used to make sure iTunes, Quicktime and Safari could cover the market available on more than Mac.

 

Now you see iOS users accessing Amazon MP3 store through a browser and the music becomes available through their Amazon MP3 app which btw can save to your phone as well. Google again has a similar solution. Google releases email, maps, search, voice, etc all for iOS. Amazon has their Kindle app as another example. They make it convenient to use their services and later to transition away from Apple.

 

Apple just tries to lock you in and hope you can't find a way to leave. They've become too insular. People are using their own successful strategies against them while they are adopting a Microsoft model. (Our way or no way)

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Was does this mean?
You get the mp3 versions too.
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...when you order your CD you instantly get the music too...

Was does this mean?

 

It means when you order a physical CD, they will ship it to you but will also allow you to download the digital tracks from their MP3 store at the same time. If as an example you bought the latest Dave Matthews Band CD, they would send you the physical copy but while that copy is on the way, you will be allowed to download the digital tracks and play them on all of your devices, even through a web browser.

 

When the physical media arrives, you can do what you want with it. Put it on the shelf, save it for your collection, open and rerip the tracks in whatever format you want, etc. However the point is you don't have to choose one over the other and it saves you the work.

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I buy from amazon because I'm cheap. (I know the irony since Apple is pricey). I add the songs to iTunes and sync my iDevices.

 

Me too....

 

I like the Amazon downloader.  It automatically puts my songs on my NAS drive and added them to iTunes in one click.....  It is actually easier to use than iTunes for music....

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Me too....

 

I like the Amazon downloader.  It automatically puts my songs on my NAS drive and added them to iTunes in one click.....  It is actually easier to use than iTunes for music....

ArsTechnica has a comparison article on the the three big music cloud services: iTunes Match, Google Music and Amazon Cloud Player.

 

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/throwdown-itunes-match-vs-amazon-cloud-player-vs-google-music/

 

All three have their unique advantages.

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- Cross platform (i.e. doesn't lock you into iTunes)

How does buying music from iTunes Store lock you in any more than buying music from Amazon Music Store?


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Was does this mean?

http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=5946775011

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Me too....

I like the Amazon downloader.  It automatically puts my songs on my NAS drive and added them to iTunes in one click.....  It is actually easier to use than iTunes for music....

Why have the one click? Just have the files add themselves to the iTunes Library

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Agreed. Amazon is:

- Cheaper than iTunes - massively when they have sales on

OK. The sales are good, if you like the titles on sale. Out of 100 albums they tend to offer on sale, I often struggle to find more than one that I'm interested in.

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- Cross platform (i.e. doesn't lock you into iTunes)

There is no DRM on iTunes music, hasn't been for years. You can take the file to any device that plays modern CODECs.

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- Has neat features like AutoRip so when you order your CD you instantly get the music too, for one price

A feature that's only just now added, many years after it's lost its value.

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- Has a great iOS app which syncs your music automatically when you buy an album (or manually if you prefer)

Syncs your music to what?
Edited by JeffDM - 1/17/13 at 9:45am
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Apple's problem is that IOS users can buy from the Amazon Store, but Android users can't buy from iTunes. I can see this hurting the iTunes market share in a big way. Apple doesn't dominate the smart phone market the way that they dominated MP3 players.
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but you'll miss out on the Apple eco system, you know, buy on iPhone, see it pop up on iPad and all that.

Not really. You buy on Amazon and you can stream the music to any device, iOS, Android, PC, Mac etc.

It doesn't even take up space. Just like iCloud but supporting more devices.

 

I am a self confessed Apple fanboy but I rarely buy from iTunes because the pricing is too high.

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…Android users can't buy from iTunes.

 

Why not?

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Apple's problem is that IOS users can buy from the Amazon Store, but Android users can't buy from iTunes. I can see this hurting the iTunes market share in a big way. Apple doesn't dominate the smart phone market the way that they dominated MP3 players.

It hasn't yet. How long has AMZ been in the game. What's it's share compared to iTunes.
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OK. The sales are good, if you like the titles on sale. Out of 100 albums they tend to offer on sale, I often struggle to find more than one that I'm interested in.

that's fine but but it's worth checking out sales before just blindly buying from iTunes. The worse thing you can do is pay the same on AMZ as with iTunes.
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that's fine but but it's worth checking out sales before just blindly buying from iTunes. The worse thing you can do is pay the same on AMZ as with iTunes.

Perhaps if I bought more music these days but I find that convenience is a huge factor when it comes to where I choose to shop. Saving a few cents on a song simply isn't something I concern myself with.

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Apple just tries to lock you in and hope you can't find a way to leave. They've become too insular. People are using their own successful strategies against them while they are adopting a Microsoft model. (Our way or no way)

 

Read the downloading information for movies that you can purchase through Amazon Instant Video. There are definitely some restrictions and limitations built into that service currently. For example, you're required to repeat the download process for each device that you want to play your purchased video on if you don't want to stream it. It doesn't allow you to just download on your home computer and then copy the file to other devices. And OS X isn't supported at all. Only iOS.

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Perhaps if I bought more music these days but I find that convenience is a huge factor when it comes to where I choose to shop. Saving a few cents on a song simply isn't something I concern myself with.

I usually look at full albums $5 on AMZ compared to $10 on iTunes.
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How does buying music from iTunes Store lock you in any more than buying music from Amazon Music Store?
http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=5946775011
Why have the one click? Just have the files add themselves to the iTunes Library

I click "BUY" and the song automatically shows up on:

 

1) My NAS Drive...

2) My iTunes in my Mac,

3) My iTunes on my iPad

4) My Google Music Account

5) My Android Phone...

 

That is a little harder to setup with iTunes alone.....

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It hasn't yet. How long has AMZ been in the game. What's it's share compared to iTunes.
that's fine but but it's worth checking out sales before just blindly buying from iTunes. The worse thing you can do is pay the same on AMZ as with iTunes.

I do compare.

The sale Amazon has right now seems pretty good.
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ArsTechnica has a comparison article on the the three big music cloud services: iTunes Match, Google Music and Amazon Cloud Player.

 

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/throwdown-itunes-match-vs-amazon-cloud-player-vs-google-music/

 

All three have their unique advantages.

 

Their conclusion was:  Unless you're not an iOS user, iTunes Match is simply the way to go.

 

 

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Was does this mean?
You get the mp3 versions too.

Ah, ok. Well, that is actually quite nice, I like that. I still buy -old school- CD's and rip them myself, but with the ever disappearing B&M stores Amazon seems to do a good job by offering this.
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...when you order your CD you instantly get the music too...


Was does this mean?

It means when you order a physical CD, they will ship it to you but will also allow you to download the digital tracks from their MP3 store at the same time. If as an example you bought the latest Dave Matthews Band CD, they would send you the physical copy but while that copy is on the way, you will be allowed to download the digital tracks and play them on all of your devices, even through a web browser.

When the physical media arrives, you can do what you want with it. Put it on the shelf, save it for your collection, open and rerip the tracks in whatever format you want, etc. However the point is you don't have to choose one over the other and it saves you the work.

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but you'll miss out on the Apple eco system, you know, buy on iPhone, see it pop up on iPad and all that.
Not really. You buy on Amazon and you can stream the music to any device, iOS, Android, PC, Mac etc.
It doesn't even take up space. Just like iCloud but supporting more devices.

I am a self confessed Apple fanboy but I rarely buy from iTunes because the pricing is too high.

Hmm, I buy CD's and I presume they are more expensive than digital downloads. Well, TEHO.
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Was does this mean?

http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=5946775011

Thank you. I must say, as good as this service seems, the experience with Amazon on my iPad right now is quite disappointing. The text I can read, obviously, but there's a How We Do It video, alas, in Flash. Then I thought let me preview a track, works, but when I tapped on the Play button my screen went black instantly. I thought my iPad crashed. Phew...

PS: this reply box on AI mobile website remains 5 lines high, which makes for a piss-poor experience and difficult to edit out unwanted text. Totally OT but still wanted to get it off my chest.
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Apple just tries to lock you in and hope you can't find a way to leave. They've become too insular. People are using their own successful strategies against them while they are adopting a Microsoft model. (Our way or no way)

People willing to go to a little extra trouble can use non-Apple media on Apple devices. The most important thing for Apple is just that everything is available to their customers. They want media to never be a reason not to buy an Apple device. The actual media revenues don't matter -- Apple breaks even on the iTunes store. They make their money on hardware.
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Agreed. Amazon is:

- Cross platform (i.e. doesn't lock you into iTunes)

 

This makes no sense.  Any music bought from iTunes within the past four years can be played on almost any computer/tablet/smartphone.  Steve Jobs was almost single-handedly responsible for pressuring the labels into dropping DRM from downloaded music purchases.  Ironically, that's the reason Amazon can be "cross platform".

 

Next time, maybe do some research so you don't make yourself look foolish.


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Thank you. I must say, as good as this service seems, the experience with Amazon on my iPad right now is quite disappointing. The text I can read, obviously, but there's a How We Do It video, alas, in Flash. Then I thought let me preview a track, works, but when I tapped on the Play button my screen went black instantly. I thought my iPad crashed. Phew...

 

And no AirPlay in their Instant Video/Amazon Prime iPad app.  And no iPad version of their Cloud Player (though, given the UX of their web-based Cloud player, this may be a blessing in disguise). The list of half-measures from Amazon goes on and on and on...

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This makes no sense.  Any music bought from iTunes within the past four years can be played on almost any computer/tablet/smartphone.  Steve Jobs was almost single-handedly responsible for pressuring the labels into dropping DRM from downloaded music purchases.  Ironically, that's the reason Amazon can be "cross platform".

Next time, maybe do some research so you don't make yourself look foolish.

So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.

- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it

When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.

I'm not talking DRM. Never mentioned it once.
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So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.

- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it

When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.

I'm not talking DRM. Never mentioned it once.

1) You didn't say it was less convenient to use iTunes Store over Amazon for digital music you said "doesn't lock you into iTunes" which could only happen if you were talking about DRMed content which as previously noted there isn't any.

2) If you're using Linux, BeOS and Symbian as your everyday personal OSes then you're probably a hater of Apple and certainly not someone who would consider buying from Apple. This post of yours is just backpedaling from your previous comment that buying music from iTS locks you into iTunes.

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So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.

- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it

When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.

I'm not talking DRM. Never mentioned it once.

You didn't say it, but it's the same as outdated talking point against iTunes DRM, it made the most sense for your comment. AAC has been around for a decade, and it is anything but an iTunes-only codec. Android supports it. Windows supports it. Any Linux audio program that doesn't play AAC is probably in maintenance mode and not active development. I found an AAC plug-in for PalmOS. Palm's WebOS plays AAC. There is Symbian software that plays it.

Just one package that offers a plug-in for BeOS, I'm sure there are others:
http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/multimedia/audio/mp3-endoding-utilities/beos-mp4-aac-tools-and-soundplay-plugin

Frankly, I'm surprised you didn't drop OS/2 into your list of far off the beaten path OSs and devices.
Edited by JeffDM - 1/17/13 at 2:24pm
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Apple's problem is that IOS users can buy from the Amazon Store, but Android users can't buy from iTunes. I can see this hurting the iTunes market share in a big way. Apple doesn't dominate the smart phone market the way that they dominated MP3 players.

Sure they can.
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Sure they can.

You're just being coy. I'm sure what was meant was that Android devices can't be used to buy from iTunes. The user could, if they wanted to go to their computer, buy from iTunes and load the track into the Android device. At which point, it's a little silly if they can just use the device directly from some other service.

I don't think it's a huge problem though. Even if Apple eventually isn't the #1 player in music downloads, they'll still be a more than viable player in that market.
Edited by JeffDM - 1/18/13 at 5:11am
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Record labels now have little to no reason to stick with itunes.

 

By signing up with Amazon, they will have access to both iOS users and Android users.

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You're just being coy. I'm sure what was meant was that Android devices can't be used to buy from iTunes. The user could, if they wanted to go to their computer, buy from iTunes and load the track into the Android device. At which point, it's a little silly if they can just use the device directly from some other service.

I don't think it's a huge problem though. Even if Apple eventually isn't the #1 player in music downloads, they'll still be a more than viable player in that market.

That's a huge distinction that the OP should have made clear in their comment.

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Record labels now have little to no reason to stick with itunes.


By signing up with Amazon, they will have access to both iOS users and Android users.

It amazes me just how off your comments are from any reality. At first I just thought you were just trolling but I now I actually think you believe the crap you write, which is really worse in so many ways. Amazon MP3 has been out for so where is this migration away from iTunes that you have implied would happen from this "little to no reason to stick with iTunes" argument you're trying to sell?

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It amazes me just how off your comments are from any reality. At first I just thought you were just trolling but I now I actually think you believe the crap you write, which is really worse in so many ways. Amazon MP3 has been out for so where is this migration away from iTunes that you have implied would happen from this "little to no reason to stick with iTunes" argument you're trying to sell?

 

Oh boo hoo.

Pot calling the kettle black.

 

 

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Consider the mindshare Apple must have when an inexpensive consumer electronic is the foundation for a purchase that cost several 10s of thousands of dollars. Crazy!
 

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That's a huge distinction that the OP should have made clear in their comment.

I suppose, but I would have thought the context of this discussion was clear enough. To say it's possible for an Android user to buy an iTunes track is technically true, but it's silly to assume that anyone would bother to buy new iTunes tracks after they've bought an Android when other services offer on-device purchases that appear to be far more convenient.
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You didn't say it, but it's the same as outdated talking point against iTunes DRM, it made the most sense for your comment. AAC has been around for a decade, and it is anything but an iTunes-only codec. Android supports it. Windows supports it. Any Linux audio program that doesn't play AAC is probably in maintenance mode and not active development. I found an AAC plug-in for PalmOS. Palm's WebOS plays AAC. There is Symbian software that plays it.

Just one package that offers a plug-in for BeOS, I'm sure there are others:
http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/multimedia/audio/mp3-endoding-utilities/beos-mp4-aac-tools-and-soundplay-plugin

Frankly, I'm surprised you didn't drop OS/2 into your list of far off the beaten path OSs and devices.

Of course WebOS plays AAC. How many times did Palm make it so their devices were viewed as a iDevice by iTunes?
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Maybe, but I don't think it's very hard to understand what was intended. I think the most likely reasons to not understand what was meant is being a dunce or playing coy.

 

Or being a smart aleck.

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Of course WebOS plays AAC. How many times did Palm make it so their devices were viewed as a iDevice by iTunes?

Oh, I forgot about that one.
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