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The methods to allow interprocess communications in an operating system. For one.

like what?

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Funny google gives a lot back to webkit, yes chrome does give back, chrome/chromium is open source they give back to webkit. Android is fully open source, if you want you can go download android right now and build your own version of it, proof, amazon kindle fire. 

Where's Google's innovation in that?

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post #83 of 191

Android . . . now 12% less lag!

 

#increasenumberofcores

 

Real Innovation™

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what does that have to do with selling information. 

 

Again genius if google sells your information they go bankrupt. 

 

Google holds on to your information and the advertisers come to them, they give it to advertisers, and they don't come back to google. 

 

How google works is that comapny "x" comes to google and says we need to advertise to "B' region and demographic and google says okay, and does it for them, your info stays with google. 

Again Genius you dont understand.  What I quoted above is an invasion of privacy, and a blatant one at that so that they can get the info to sell you to the advertisers.  If it was no problem then why is the DOJ still investigating them over that issue?  I dont want ads shoved in my face, I don't want my name as part of a Demographic or an ad run, I want to be left out of it.   The above example is there use of illegal means to circumvent my own privacy settings to get those ads to me and to put there cookies on my machine even though I have said no by clicking the appropriate button in my browser.  You are talking about the actual data, of course google is not going to give that to the advertisers.  But there still selling me to them by shoving there crap in my in box even if I dont have one of there trash products by circumventing my own privacy settings.  They have been publically caught doing this numerous times and they always have the convenient excuse that they did not mean to.  What bs.  You believe what you want and I will believe what I want and we can agree to just disagree on this.  You wont change my mind and obviously I,m not changing yours. 

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Android . . . now 12% less lag!

 

#increasenumberofcores

 

Real Innovation™

or something like you know "google now"

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Again Genius you dont understand.  What I quoted above is an invasion of privacy, and a blatant one at that so that they can get the info to sell you to the advertisers.  If it was no problem then why is the DOJ still investigating them over that issue?  I dont want ads shoved in my face, I don't want my name as part of a Demographic or an ad run, I want to be left out of it.   The above example is there use of illegal means to circumvent my own privacy settings to get those ads to me and to put there cookies on my machine even though I have said no by clicking the appropriate button in my browser.  You are talking about the actual data, of course google is not going to give that to the advertisers.  But there still selling me to them by shoving there crap in my in box even if I dont have one of there trash products by circumventing my own privacy settings.  They have been publically caught doing this numerous times and they always have the convenient excuse that they did not mean to.  What bs.  You believe what you want and I will believe what I want and we can agree to just disagree on this.  You wont change my mind and obviously I,m not changing yours. 

then don't use google. I actually like selective, relevant ads in exchange for a free service. 

post #87 of 191
Innovation isn't necessarily creating new products, it could be improving on older ideas, too. You have to perfect something before moving onto the next thing. I would rather offer 4 essential product lines (iPod, iPhone, iPad, Mac) that have been refined and perfected until each release is just incremental, just adding the latest technologies. I would rather that than 17 messy, unrefined projects that you can't focus on. Google should be focusing on making their OS more efficient, safe, and integrated, they should also start working on a better 'ecosystem', like Apple has with iCloud, the digital hub. They're trying, with the Chromebook and Android and Google Sync, etc. But it isn't working. They need to ditch Plus, Apps, etc. and focus on more of their more successful products (e.g Nexus', Chromebook, Chrome and the search engine).

 

 


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Funny google gives a lot back to webkit, yes chrome does give back, chrome/chromium is open source they give back to webkit. Android is fully open source, if you want you can go download android right now and build your own version of it, proof, amazon kindle fire. 

Lol android is not fully open source.  Google with holds key api's which is a violation of the open source agreement.  You can download the vanilla version of android but not the current full blown version unless your a signed developer.  Go do a search about it.  A lot of people in the open source community are ticked about it.  But dont believe me go look for yourself.

 

Android is not fully open source.  Proof?   In Googles trial with microsoft in 2011  google complained that microsoft had no write to show full android code to  the court claiming that it could damage there proprietary api's.   If it is open source then it should be available to everyone   every last bit of android code.  Its not.  And google admitted it in the court case against microsoft that android is not a truly open source os.  Parts of it are and parts of it are not.  Just like parts of Mac os are open source such as WebKit and Unix and parts of it are not.  The difference is that Apple does not go around telling everyone that there os is fully open source like google does.  They finally had to back off in court at least that there os is fully open source compliant which is it not.  Here is a good article about it not being open source.

 

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/proof-android-not-open-source-and-why-thats-good-169663

 

Its actually a good thing for android too that it is not fully open source which is what the article concludes.  Not being open source allows google to more fully control android code.

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then don't use google. I actually like selective, relevant ads in exchange for a free service. 

I dont, good luck to you and yours.

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Lol android is not fully open source.  Google with holds key api's which is a violation of the open source agreement.  You can download the vanilla version of android but not the current full blown version.  Go do a search about it.  A lot of people in the open source community are ticked about it.  But dont believe me go look for yourself.

 

Android is not fully open source.  Proof?   In Googles trial with microsoft in 2011  google complained that microsoft had no write to show full android code to  the court claiming that it could damage there proprietary api's.   If it is open source then it should be available to everyone   every last bit of android code.  Its not.  And google admitted it in the court case against microsoft that android is not a truly open source os.  Parts of it are and parts of it are not.  Just like parts of Mac os are open source such as WebKit and Unix and parts of it are not.  The difference is that Apple does not go around telling everyone that there os is fully open source like google does.  They finally had to back off in court at least that there os is fully open source compliant which is it not.  Here is a good article about it not being open source.

 

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/proof-android-not-open-source-and-why-thats-good-169663

Lies android is fully open source, what is not open source are google apps (gmail, maps, youtube) and the google play store. 

 

ANDROID IS FULLY OPEN. I should know, I have flash many android phones with ASOP. stop spreading lies. 

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"Page expressed concern regarding company leadership, saying there too much attention is being paid to competition. When asked about a specific case involving the late Steve Jobs' comment of "going thermonuclear war" on Google's Android mobile operating system, Page quipped, "How well is that working?""

Pretty damn well... Anyway, why doesn't he run his company the way he wants and stop telling everyone else how to run their companies?


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Dear All,

 

Interesting that Page would make such comment about Apple. Does he pay the Harvard Business Review, since in this month's issue the Top 100 CEO in this era, from 1990s until now, are named for long term substantial growth to their company and long term vision.  Well no guessing who was number one, Yes Steve Jobs and number two was Amazon CEO and number 3 was Samsung CEO.

 

I am absolutely certain that Google  was not in Top 10 (or TOP 20) with that idiot, who went to North Korea. I will check and edit my post.

 

Larry Page: lots of money, maybe very intelligent, but has no street credibility.

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Lies android is fully open source, what is not open source are google apps (gmail, maps, youtube) and the google play store. 

 

ANDROID IS FULLY OPEN. I should know, I have flash many android phones with ASOP. stop spreading lies. 

Android is not fully open source go read the article,  and if you want go look up the 9 circuit court docs on it.  Google admitted that android is not fully opensource themselves.  It came from there lawyers mouths not mine.  and IM NOT SPREADING LIES.  If you read the article it talks about how they withold api's from the open source version on there download and release them when they feel  like it sometimes years latter after a new version has come out.

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then don't use google. I actually like selective, relevant ads in exchange for a free service. 

Uh, looks like you're agreeing with him then.
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Lies android is fully open source, what is not open source are google apps (gmail, maps, youtube) and the google play store. 

 

ANDROID IS FULLY OPEN. I should know, I have flash many android phones with ASOP. stop spreading lies. 

Mechanic provides you factual evidence and you call him a liar, way to go Mr. Larry Page friend, way to go. Everyone knows that story concerning Google and Open source issue, but you.

 

Edit: You may want to read this link and stop putting your foot in your mouth http://marketingland.com/what-is-the-one-true-android-and-how-open-is-it-21664

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Apple has been plenty innovative in the past and will likely continue to be so in the future- but within thescope of their target market.  Their innovation is based on creating products that sell.  In short- they behave like a company that is answerable to shareholders.  That is how most companies work and even Tim Cook at Apple could find himself under the gun from shareholders if he decided to start doing arbitrarilly 'cool' projects that just didn't seem to have any path to monetization.

 

 

Google is a unique beast in its structure.  Even though publically traded, it is essentially just Larry & Sergei's private playground.  They structured the company with their 'supershares' so they will always have the majority of the voting shares.  Investors can't get mad and oust either one of them- your only choice as a shareholder in Google is to invest or not invest in them.  Your vote just doesn't matter.  Google doesn't even remotely try to maximize its profits quarter to quarter, it does everything for the long haul.  That's why you never see them come under fire for not monetizing android (they don't have to- and they'll do that if and when they please- for now it is purely a platform to make sure Google search remains available to a majority of the planet).  They want to undertake the '100 most ambitious problems' they can come up with- even if they aren't remotely related to their core business?  No problem.  Investors at any other company would go nuts and push to have more 'businessy' CEO's put in place.  Can't happen at Google so they get to do their cool outlandish projects- but its not really fair for them to criticize execs at other companies who would get lynched for trying.  It is a great gig if you can get it- but very few have that luxury.

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When Larry Page is talking about innovation, he's probably talking about things like Google Earth, Maps, and Books back in the day, and more recently Project Glass, the self-driving car, and their fiber network. 

 

Stuff like Android originally wasn't originally developed by Google, they bought Android. 
 

Let's face it, Google has evolved far beyond a search engine, and stuff like Project Glass and the self-driving car are more than a little innovative...  Who wouldn't love going to the bar, getting trashed, and having your own car drive you home?

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Back in 2011 google refused to release the source code for honeycomb,   It was even confirmed by google.  They said that maybe they would release it in the future once there way of doing things in it was firmly entrenched in the developer community.  Those are googles words not mine.  Google wants to be android known  as the open os but in truth there are just as many closed parts to it as there are with other OS's.  They like being known as the Open os but there not.  the open source gpu states very clearly that all code will be made public not some, and if not they forfeit there license.    Google can't tell everyone there os is fully open then refuse to publish the code.  Its that simple and yet its what they have done.

 

Any developer using open source code under the gnu who contributes to googles code code for android under gnu could sue google and win.   There is no second chance with gnu. One violation and your done.   Its made that way on purpose.  So that it remains open.  Googles answer is to say its open and keep promising to release the all of the code someday.  With a lot of the parts that has not happened yet like the full source for honeycomb.  And by googles own admission it may never happen.  The still do the same thing with the current android as well.  They just need to stop telling people that all of android is open and admit that a semi walled garden is how it is.  Google is the one lying not me.  They are now controlling what they use from the open source community as well, which again according to the GPU license is a violation of your license and a forfeiture of your license.  The rules on GPU are harsh.  Again to  keep open source open.  Really its like one infraction and you forfeit your license. 


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Android is not fully open source go read the article,  and if you want go look up the 9 circuit court docs on it.  Google admitted that android is not fully opensource themselves.  It came from there lawyers mouths not mine.  and IM NOT SPREADING LIES.  If you read the article it talks about how they withold api's from the open source version on there download and release them when they feel  like it sometimes years latter after a new version has come out.

do you understand the difference between google apps and android. Android is fully open, google apps are not. Anyone can take the android coke and do as they wish. 

 

http://source.android.com/ 

 

there is the website. 

Android is open source and there is no proof that it is not what you read was about the Open android Alliance and google apps and the play store which has nothing to do with ASOP. 

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When Larry Page is talking about innovation, he's probably talking about things like Google Earth, Maps, and Books back in the day, and more recently Project Glass, the self-driving car, and their fiber network. 

 

Stuff like Android originally wasn't originally developed by Google, they bought Android. 
 

Let's face it, Google has evolved far beyond a search engine, and stuff like Project Glass and the self-driving car are more than a little innovative...  Who wouldn't love going to the bar, getting trashed, and having your own car drive you home?

 

Google Earth started with a buy out of EarthViewer 3D. Google Maps was based on the work of Sydney's Where2 Technologies that Google purchased in 2004. Mercedes Benz began working on a driverless car in the 1980s. "Though head-worn displays for augmented reality are not a new idea" states the wikipedia entry on Project Glass.

 

Where is the innovation, Google? Where is the disruptive product? We're waiting.

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Back in 2011 google refused to release the source code for honeycomb,   It was even confirmed by google.  They said that maybe they would release it in the future once there way of doing things in it was firmly entrenched in the developer community.  Those are googles words not mine.  Google wants to be android known  as the open os but in truth there are just as many closed parts to it as there are with other OS's.  They like being known as the Open os but there not.  the open source gpu states very clearly that all code will be made public not some, and if not they forfeit there license.    Google can't tell everyone there os is fully open then refuse to publish the code.  Its that simple and yet its what they have done.

 

Any developer using open source code under the gpu who contributes to googles code code for android under gpu could sue google and win.   There is no second chance with gnu. One violation and your done.   Its made that way on purpose.  So that it remains open.  Googles answer is to say its open and keep promising to release the all of the code someday.  With a lot of the parts that has not happened yet like the full source for honeycomb.  And by googles own admission it may never happen.  The still do the same thing with the current android as well.  They just need to stop telling people that all of android is open and admit that a semi walled garden is how it is.  Google is the one lying not me.

wrong. Google makes all the code public, except for their apps and the google play store. the only difference between the android that samsung gets and the one on the ASOP website are google apps. 

 

How can you tell me android is not open with Amazon Kindle fire android products. 

 

There is Android the open source project.

then there is the android handset alliance.

 

two different things. 

 

Android alliance gets access to google apps and google play store. That is the only difference between the two. But with the perks on the google apps comes rules. the most important is that you can't fork android. 

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Google Earth started with a buy out of EarthViewer 3D. Google Maps was based on the work of Sydney's Where2 Technologies that Google purchased in 2004. Mercedes Benz began working on a driverless car in the 1980s. "Though head-worn displays for augmented reality are not a new idea" states the wikipedia entry on Project Glass.

 

Where is the innovation, Google? Where is the disruptive product? We're waiting.

 

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/10/ff-inside-google-data-center/

 

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/google-as-xerox-parc/?rm

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do you understand the difference between google apps and android. Android is fully open, google apps are not. Anyone can take the android coke and do as they wish. 

 

http://source.android.com/ 

 

there is the website. 

Android is open source and there is no proof that it is not what you read was about the Open android Alliance and google apps and the play store which has nothing to do with ASOP. 

Correct but im not talking about apps, im talking about api's google does not release all of the api's used in androids developement they hold by there own admission a lot of them in house and dont release them to the public, which then violates the GNU license.  But I dont think your going to listen to me so im done.  Again this is common public knowledge about android not being open, but you believe what you want to.  Call me a liar if you like it wont change the facts one bit. Android is not open.  Google cant cherry pic what they use the have to give all of the code including the private api's  or they loose there GNU Standing. I wont comment any further as there is no point.

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Correct but im not talking about apps, im talking about api's google does not release all of the api's used in androids developement they hold by there own admission a lot of them in house and dont release them to the public, which then violates the GNU license.  But I dont think your going to listen to me so im done.  Again this is common public knowledge about android not being open, but you believe what you want to.  Call me a liar if you like it wont change the facts one bit. Android is not open.  I wont comment any further as there is no point.

so your saying google doesnt release how they build android, they just release the android they build? Because anyone can add code to asop, sony does all the time. 

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Apple is different how, no one invents anything anymore. Apple didnt invent anything, they have improved, just like google has.

 

Look up "google now"

 

If I do that will Google try to get me to sign up to Google + like they do everywhere else?

 

Gotta watch those check boxes.

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If I do that will Google try to get me to sign up to Google + like they do everywhere else?

 

Gotta watch those check boxes.

 

I need an apple account to use anything apple. At least I can use most of google services without having google force me to join anything. Can you even use apple maps without being forced to sign up for apple account, can you use anything apple without an account?

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so your saying google doesnt release how they build android, they just release the android they build? Because anyone can add code to asop, sony does all the time. 

I give you a link and you seems to annoyed the information, ever though the writer talks about ANDROID operating system and not apps. Keep going with you closed mind argument, it is really working for you.

You have not provided us a factual link except the Open android web site, which supported by Google and there are numerous news columns and factual evidence on web site concerning the validity of Google open source claim.

 

I do not pity the person who knows he not smart because  he understands his limitations and works within that environment. It is the person who thinks he smart and he does not know it, that I feel sorry for. Same with your argument 

post #108 of 191
Riiiight...

Just like Google to ask others to drum up more innovation for them to copy.

Android= poor iPhone.

Google+= poor Facebook.

Lol@google mentioning these two.
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I give you a link and you seems to annoyed the information, ever though the writer talks about ANDROID operating system and not apps. Keep going with you closed mind argument, it is really working for you.

You have not provided us a factual link except the Open android web site, which supported by Google and there are numerous news columns and factual evidence on web site concerning the validity of Google open source claim.

 

I do not pity the person who knows he not smart because  he understands his limitations and works within that environment. It is the person who thinks he smart and he does not know it, that I feel sorry for. Same with your argument 

The article you gave me talks about how google wont release how is builds android, not android itself. and it was a very poor article, it didnt state what android microsoft was asking for. Because off course google wont give them the android that has google apps included. The article was confusing. 

 

 more information needed. 

post #110 of 191
Google's self driving cars are by far the most important thing that is happening right now. This will change humanity much more than the iPhone and iPad. Apple is just sitting on a 130 billion instead of investing hard in real breakthroughs. For example, I think if they decide to invest 20 billion in battery research, I'm sure they could come up with a battery that last 30 or more days.
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Those links don't relate to any of the products cited by Mike above, or the examples thrown up by Larry.

 

Google's data centres run search - so 1998, gmail - so 2000, run YouTube - so 2004. 

 

Regarding the latter article:

 

"To be sure, Google’s ascendance builds on decades of contributions from dozens of equally unheralded computer scientists from many companies and research institutions, including PARC and Bell Labs. And like Google, Amazon was also a major influence on the foundations of the net"

 

Sounds like iteration to me.

 

I'm wondering what Google will do next to transform an industry in the same manner that Apple shook up the music business with iTunes and the iPod, changed mobile phones with the iPhone, and set the standard for tablets. Come on, blow our minds, Google!

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Those links don't relate to any of the products cited by Mike above, or the examples thrown up by Larry.

 

Google's data centres run search - so 1998, gmail - so 2000, run YouTube - so 2004. 

 

Regarding the latter article:

 

"To be sure, Google’s ascendance builds on decades of contributions from dozens of equally unheralded computer scientists from many companies and research institutions, including PARC and Bell Labs. And like Google, Amazon was also a major influence on the foundations of the net"

 

Sounds like iteration to me.

 

I'm wondering what Google will do next to transform an industry in the same manner that Apple shook up the music business with iTunes and the iPod, changed mobile phones with the iPhone, and set the standard for tablets. Come on, blow our minds, Google!

and the iphone wasn't an iteration. 

 

browser 

touch screen 

apps

notifications

 

apple wasn't near to first to have any of them 

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The article you gave me talks about how google wont release how is builds android, not android itself. and it was a very poor article, it didnt state what android microsoft was asking for. Because off course google wont give them the android that has google apps included. The article was confusing. 

 

 more information needed. 

The article clearly stated there is MASSIVE issue with Google's claim about Open SOURCE! Now you provide me link other than Google supported that show factual evidence, it is OPEN SOURCE!

 

Here something especially for you http://www.visionmobile.com/rsc/researchreports/Open%20Governance%20Index%20%28VisionMobile%29.pdf

 

Here is article that referenced that study, http://www.pcworld.com/article/246140/is_android_open_not_so_much_study_finds.html  hope you stop misquoting the facts now.

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One of the things I love about google, they are not afraid to fail, and the bigger they fail the more they try. 

Oh for those who says google doesnt innovate, ha. The web/cloud as we know it today is built off of Google's innovations in servers and server management. icould, facebook, wouldn't exist without the ground breaking work google has done on the server side.

So google, keep building your crazy fiber network, keep fighting for internet freedom, keep investing billions in green energy, keep building weird looking glasses. Every company has their culture, and Google culture of pie in the sky, internet is a right attitude is an important one in the tech industry. 

Also keep stealing people's private informations, or force us to give it up. Yay!
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Those links don't relate to any of the products cited by Mike above, or the examples thrown up by Larry.

 

Google's data centres run search - so 1998, gmail - so 2000, run YouTube - so 2004. 

 

Regarding the latter article:

 

"To be sure, Google’s ascendance builds on decades of contributions from dozens of equally unheralded computer scientists from many companies and research institutions, including PARC and Bell Labs. And like Google, Amazon was also a major influence on the foundations of the net"

 

Sounds like iteration to me.

 

I'm wondering what Google will do next to transform an industry in the same manner that Apple shook up the music business with iTunes and the iPod, changed mobile phones with the iPhone, and set the standard for tablets. Come on, blow our minds, Google!

 

 

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and the iphone wasn't an iteration. 

 

browser 

touch screen 

apps

notifications

 

apple wasn't near to first to have any of them 

 

Iphone and google search are comparable. Yes there was yahoo, and altavista, but google built the complete consumer package. Yes there was Windows mobile and Nokia but Apple built the complete consumer package. 

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and the iphone wasn't an iteration. 

 

browser 

touch screen 

apps

notifications

 

apple wasn't near to first to have any of them 

 

It was the first to have all the above in a truly usable device. It disrupted an industry - that is a fact.

 

 

 

Where is the innovation, Google? Where is the disruptive product? We're waiting. We want to buy it now!

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Iphone and google search are comparable. Yes there was yahoo, and altavista, but google built the complete consumer package. Yes there was Windows mobile and Nokia but Apple built the complete consumer package. 

 

Google Search, c.1998. It's been 14 years.

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The article clearly stated there is MASSIVE issue with Google's claim about Open SOURCE! Now you provide me link other than Google supported that show factual evidence, it is OPEN SOURCE!

 

Here something especially for you http://www.visionmobile.com/rsc/researchreports/Open%20Governance%20Index%20%28VisionMobile%29.pdf

 

Here is article that referenced that study, http://www.pcworld.com/article/246140/is_android_open_not_so_much_study_finds.html  hope you stop misquoting the facts now.

according to that article nothing is open sourced. the highest is 83% so nothing is fully open sourced. So according to that article android is open, just not as open as you liked it to be. 

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Originally Posted by sennen View Post

 

Google Search, c.1998. It's been 14 years.

 

Chrome and chrome os. Changed browsing forever. 

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Originally Posted by Techstalker View Post

according to that article nothing is open sourced. the highest is 83% so nothing is fully open sourced. So according to that article android is open, just not as open as you liked it to be. 

I thought you might say that, but Android is least open of the 8, you forgot to point that out and it percentage. I am not going to provide any more information, you have not given us any factual data except for what you think.

 

Here are the scores that Techstalker failed to state in his comments:

 

Open Governance index % Based on low score= 14 (0%) and highest score =45 (100%)

 

Android 23%, Eclipse 84%, Linux 71%, MeeGo 61%, Mozilla 65%, Qt 58%, Symbian 58% and WebKit 68%.

 

Now you provide me factual data that disprove this review.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by souliisoul - 1/17/13 at 8:15pm
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