Originally Posted by wizard69
it is very saddening that somebody that is supposedly intelligent could support something as stupid as the dream act. They seem to forget the most important element in the description of these people, they are illegal alien and frankly should be hanged. Not because of an evil hatred as some liberal would imply but as an effective deterrent to a continuing influx of illegals. The economy simply cant support the welfare establishment required to support these people.
As a side note it isn't surprising this comes form a liberal Californian as those people are to damn lazy to mow their own lawns.
As a conservative moderate I am for many provisions in the Dream Act. For example the Dream Act allows illegals to join the military for an 8 year commitment to earn permanent residency and citizenship. That's a lot more than a lot of folks here have done including myself.
Illegal aliens with college degrees are a net plus to the economy, not a drag. So I'm also for the provisions for letting children of illegals that have managed to get a 2 or 4 year degree to earn their citizenships. Preferably with some required service to the country.
Frankly the difference between the US and a lot of other developed nations with negative population growth is immigration (legal and not). That the US is a military superpower is due to both economy and population. You think we're casualty adverse now? There's a reason that the PRC military is dominated by service members from rural areas that were not under the 1 child policy. Parents and grandparents with only one child/grandchild aren't too keen on promoting military service as a career.
Some folks have negatively described the US as the new Roman Empire. Me, I don't think it's negative given that I'm a modern Roman citizen enjoying the benefits of such. I am not apologetic at all about that nor the benefits that America enjoys because of geographic and population advantages (3rd largest population).
The cautionary tale is that when the citizens are no longer willing to serve in the military we're ripe to be the fallen Roman empire. Immigrants, legal or otherwise, willing to serve to become citizens are to my advantage and to the advantage of my kids.
So call me stupid or liberal if you want but I'm not so dumb that I cannot count noses nor so heartless as to advocate hanging children because their parents brought them here illegally.