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Nude image search gets popular photo sharing app 500px pulled from App Store

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Apple on Tuesday pulled both 500px and ISO500 due to a claimed breach of App Store rules regarding pornographic material, effectively cutting off new user access to the popular photo sharing apps tailored to professional photographers and artists.

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The apps' removal, as reported by TechCrunch, came early Tuesday morning following a late-night discussion between 500px and Apple over an app update that was flagged for violating App Store policy. The app has been in the App Store for over 16 months.

500px is a well-designed and long-standing app accompaniment to the online photography community of the same name. The company's Chief Operating Officer Evgeny Tchebotarev said the iOS versions have amassed over one million downloads, with 500px yielding almost one million, while the newly acquired ISO500 accounts for over 200,000.

When an update to the flagship 500px was submitted to Apple a few days ago, a reviewer flagged the app for objectionable content. Ultimately, the company found it was too easy to find nude photos through the built-in search function and consequently pulled the app this morning.

"The app was removed from the App Store for featuring pornographic images and material, a clear violation of our guidelines," an Apple spokesman said in a statement to The Next Web. "We also received customer complaints about possible child pornography. We?ve asked the developer to put safeguards in place to prevent pornographic images and material in their app."

According to Tchebotarev, 500px already comes with a safeguard against the unwanted search of nude photos. When new users download the app, the default settings are set to "safe search" mode that filters out nude images. In order to lift safe search, users must leave the app and make changes to their account settings on the company's desktop website.

?Some people are mature enough to see these photos,? Tchebotarev said, ?but by default it?s safe.?

Further, 500px does not allow photos deemed "pornographic" in nature onto its service. Tchebotarev noted that all nude photos are artistic and can be defined as art, not pornography.
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According to Kurt Vonnegut the difference between nude art and pornography is presence of... pubic hair.

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I'm sure you'd have no problem finding pictures of horrendous violence. God forbid someone see a nipple.

Wankers.
post #4 of 72
how is this any different from a web browser returning pornographic results?
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It sounds like they have taken reasonable care. I can use Safari to search for nude images and porn and as far as I know it doesn't have any "safe mode" that these guys have built in. If it was designed specifically for nudes and/or porn then that would be one thing but what makes this any different than any other tool where tags could be added for the same?

Without any more info that this article I would say this is one Apple should take a second look at and change their decision.
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Originally Posted by DeanSolecki View Post
Wankers.


I thought they were trying to prevent that.

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how is this any different from a web browser returning pornographic results?

I think the difference in how Apple might be held liable. In the case of an internet search engine no one seems to blame the browser or OS maker, or even that Google is copying the internet without permission, but since 500px is only had via the App Store Apple's lawyers, hypothetically, may have felt they could be held responsible for the content being funneled through that app.

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According to Kurt Vonnegut the difference between nude art and pornography is presence of... pubic hair.

Or lack thereof
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post #9 of 72
Grow up, Apple. Chill a bit.
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If the app has the over 17 rating, who cares if it's porn or not? We're not in Saudi Arabia where porn is a crime, it's just a matter of bad taste.
Are we starting to outlaw apps that display tacky lawn ornaments next?
Grown up people are responsible for their own actions, if Apple can't enforce app ratings it's their problem, they shouldn't punish app users and providers for it, particularly as long as mobile Safari craps out at 8 open pages...
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According to Kurt Vonnegut the difference between nude art and pornography is presence of... pubic hair.

 

He was joking.  

 

Excepting the erroneous opinion of religious prudes (mostly located in the United States), nudity and pornography have never been the same thing.  

 

The original definition of pornography is that it must be highly offensive to the point of believing that it actually damages society to view it.  Historically this has never included plain old simple nudity (nudity with no agenda), except recently, mostly with religious groups, and mostly in America.  

 

Pretty much every single minute of one of those "Saw" movies for example falls under the original, historical definition of pornography, but an entire movie about a nudist colony with acres of close up nudity in every scene would not.  

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Man, this is something I could really care less about. If people really need their nudity fix they can get it via a browser. Seems to me there's a big difference between browsing the www for explicit material and being able to get it off Apple's AppStore. At least I'm sure Apple's lawyers think so.
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Maybe if there was more sex there would be less violence. 

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I just went into the Google Search app on my iPhone and turned Safe Search off, and did an image search. Plenty of pornographic images available. There's clearly a double standard here. What Apple should do is have a parental control that lets parents set the safe search level in apps that have this issue, rather than ban apps that are mostly non-sexual.
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According to [url=http://************/2013/01/22/apple-pulls-500px-photo-sharing-app-from-app-store-over-nude-images/]9to5Mac[/url], here is Apple's response:
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The app was removed from the App Store for featuring pornographic images and material, a clear violation of our guidelines. We also received customer complaints about possible child pornography. We’ve asked the developer to put safeguards in place to prevent pornographic images and material in their app.
Maybe we should get the whole story before we tar and feather Apple.

EDIT: I guess you have to replace *********** with 9to5Mac's url.
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The app was removed from the App Store for featuring pornographic images and material, a clear violation of our guidelines. We also received customer complaints about possible child pornography. We’ve asked the developer to put safeguards in place to prevent pornographic images and material in their app.

Maybe we should get the whole story before we tar and feather Apple..

Fair enough.

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To some folks out there the definition of pornography includes an image of a woman in a dress that shows her knees. Most medical journals classify as pornography somewhere out there in our big world. Ah the days of the JC Penney catalogue... now that was good pr0n!
HA!
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K.

 

Moving right along . . . 

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Fair enough.
My guess is if Apple gets complaints like that they remove the app and sort it out later. i'm sure it will all be resolved soon enough.
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I thought they were trying to prevent that.

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post #21 of 72
Hmm it's still there at App Store.
post #22 of 72
My big concern is that this is a really nice app and I would hate to see it go away for good. For people that are really interested in photography 500pix is the premier site and two iPhone apps they have are both beautiful - two of the best apps I've used. Yes there is a handful of nude stuff out there, but not a lot and what is out there definitely seems to be artistic versus pornographic. I kind of think it is silly for Apple to pull these apps. Hopefully Apple and 500pix come up with a way to address this concern.
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To some folks out there the definition of pornography includes an image of a woman in a dress that shows her knees. Most medical journals classify as pornography somewhere out there in our big world. Ah the days of the JC Penney catalogue... now that was good pr0n!
HA!

National Geographic too.
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post #24 of 72

Have to agree. Apple is overstepping here. There is no such ban on the browser, and no controls to prevent such searches. The app seems to have the required safety protocols and only after a user goes into the desktop version of the website can it be disabled. 

At some point Apple has to realize that adults use these devices, and the parents are going to have to be responsible for such. If they allow their children unrestricted access to their desktop, then I think their last concern will be the phone accessing nudity.

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Maybe if there was more sex there would be less violence. 

More violent sex though but then it could get approval as violence seems to be ok.

I think the question of pornography is really down to how much it turns you on. A nude photo of Phil Schiller for example wouldn't be pornography. A nude photo of Tim might be though - he seems like a p90x guy and probably has rock hard abs. You don't have the following facial expression in your range unless you plan to use it in a risqué situation:



Regarding browsers, I actually think Apple would censor them if they could. It's probably more a case of the internet being outside of their control. With a single photo service, there's a single entry point to the offensive content and a much more limited range of content. Plus the app owner will be hosting all the images. Web browsers are really just indexing multiple servers.

What they really need to do is have a password restricted part of the App Store so that if an app is too offensive, it doesn't show up in the main search results and you have to have a credit card attached to your account to let you in.

The app developers probably can't even fix this issue because people will just start uploading pornographic images under generic names so they can't flag them easily.
post #27 of 72

This is why the only Apple products I own are the macbook I'm typing this on, and an older iMac I keep as backup. I made my decision back in 2009 when the story broke that Apple's reviewers banned an app because it could access Project Gutenberg (!) which contains a copy of the Kama Sutra which they deemed pornographic. That's wrong on multiple levels, and I won't own any device that runs iOS until they significantly revise their policies.

 

Apple isn't just prudish about mere nudity. Apple isn't just hypocritical in publishing their own apps that can access much more obscene content. There's the incident with Mark Fiore, the Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist who had an app rejected for violating the policy against satire of public figures. In that case, after sufficient negative publicity they reversed their decision and informed Fiore they'd accepted his app and changed their policy. Then it turned out the policy change was a lie intended to salvage their reputation. They made an exception for Fiore's app because it looked like it might hurt their bottom line apparently. 

 

I'm happy that my Android phone seems to do everything that the iPhone can do. If there's something missing, I haven't noticed it. Should Apple further merge iOS into OS X and make installation of third-party apps outside of the App store impossible, I'll wipe it from my systems and install Ubuntu (which I've been running on a netbook to see if I can live with it as a permanent replacement, because I suspect that is coming).

 

Apparently the old Apple 1984 ad got it backward. Obviously, it's their playground, and they can make the rules. If that playground gets too large I will lobby the FTC to pursue anti-trust actions. Apple is making enemies with its App Store policies, but apparently people like Shiny more than they like their freedoms.

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Hipster's app has actual porn throughout, nothing artistic about it. I am a photographer, 500px has quality content that I appreciate... arguably the highest quality photographic art in the App Store. Removing 500px and not addressing Hipster is just ridiculous. 500px should lawyer up.
post #29 of 72
Apple has decided they don't want to participate in pornography. I applaud and respect their decision. Many people see pornography as a first amendment right. I think the first amendment also includes the right to abstain from such things if a person or business decides to. I hope they stick to their guns.
Edited by rickwil61 - 1/22/13 at 7:27pm
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One problem is the assertion that nudity = pornography. Another problem is also the fact that their own apps access content that everyone would consider hard core pornography. It is their sandbox (iOS) and that's why I'm not playing in it.

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Originally Posted by Mike Lewinski View Post

Should Apple further merge iOS into OS X and make installation of third-party apps outside of the App store impossible, I'll wipe it from my systems and install Ubuntu (which I've been running on a netbook to see if I can live with it as a permanent replacement, because I suspect that is coming).

 

May as well install it now and be done.

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how does your comment add to the discussion? it doesn't. please delete it, seeing as how you're a global moderator & administrator and that's what you do.
It's people like you who just make me want to delete my AppleInsider account. I've been similarly bullied over inane comments. Read the forum guidelines before posting. This is why you aren't a moderator and your addressee is.
post #33 of 72

Id love an iPad dA app, it would totally breach the rules, sooo much awesome awesome art (nudie pics)

post #34 of 72
Siri will kindly look for nude pictures and pornographic pictures on the internet for you.
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Excepting the erroneous opinion
Erroneous opinion?
Opinion can't be "erroneous".
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OK, let's make a test (I guess I am taking risks, here ...). Monty Python's Full Frontal nudity :

 

post #37 of 72
That's exactly the problem with the AppStore. Thank you , Apple, for once again demonstrating the problem with 1984's Orwellian society. Too bad this is real life.


What's next? AT&T silently drops sexts? Apple erases your lover from your contacts because hey, you're married?

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To some folks out there the definition of pornography includes an image of a woman in a dress that shows her knees. Most medical journals classify as pornography somewhere out there in our big world. Ah the days of the JC Penney catalogue... now that was good pr0n!
HA!

To some people out there, it would include women not in a burqa, especially if not walking behind her brother, husband or father.

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Siri will kindly look for nude pictures and pornographic pictures on the internet for you.

What a little skank. I knew she was like that anyway from the very word she said :p

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I think the question of pornography is really down to how much it turns you on. A nude photo of Phil Schiller for example wouldn't be pornography. A nude photo of Tim might be though - he seems like a p90x guy and probably has rock hard abs. 

You're assuming that porn requires strong fit men. 

 

1- Gay porn, or women porn? I don't watch either, being neither gay nor a woman (yeah, I know, I'm a failure).

2- You know some people have a fetish for fat, hairy, sweaty guys?

 

I'd say a nude Phil Schiller qualifies just as well, for them.

 

 

Of course,

 "The original definition of pornography is that it must be highly offensive to the point of believing that it actually damages society to view it."

would suggest it's true for everyone. Nude PhilSchiller photos.... that's actually society-damaging material.


Edited by lightknight - 1/23/13 at 1:39am

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