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Before Apple swooped in to purchase Siri, U.S. carrier Verizon was working on a deal that would make the intelligent voice-controlled assistant exclusive to Android devices on its network.

The details were revealed in a look at the history of Siri, published this week by the Huffington Post. Author Bianca Bosker revealed that Verizon actually signed a deal with Siri in the fall of 2009 ??months before Apple bought the company.

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That deal would have made Siri a built-in application for handsets on its network running the Android mobile operating system. Siri would have come preinstalled on all Android devices the carrier launched in 2010.

But before that could become a reality, Apple bought Siri and made the feature exclusive to Apple devices. Apple's purchase nixed the deal Verizon had already made with Siri.

Siri exclusivity on Verizon and Android was apparently so close to becoming a reality that there are unreleased commercials made by the carrier that show off Siri as an Android feature.

Siri eventually debuted in late 2011 as a built-in feature on the iPhone 4S. Apple's purchase of Siri first became known publicly in April of 2010.

While Siri started out as an iPhone-exclusive feature, it has since expanded to the iPad and iPod touch. The voice-controlled assistant offers information such as weather, dictation, sports scores, calendar entries and more.
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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

 

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

 

 

 

Yup. For reminders, appointments, etc. Talking and no typing. Works for me.   *shrugs*

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My wife and I use it all the time. It takes a little bit of time for it to create a profile for your voice. I'd say use it regularly for a month or so and pretty smooth sailing from there. Neither of us have accents either so that benefits us also.

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Awww, come on. Apple's highly innovative, not a corporte behemoth that buys innovation out of competitors.

Innovate, don't litigate, Android.

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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

It's great for posting to forums like this… while surfing on my iPad in bed.

I also use it all the time to get sports scores and schedules... On the couch in front of the tube. It's amazing how well it does filtering out the background noise coming from the TV.

I frequently use the dictation feature on the Mac too.
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I wont respond to the troll that thinks Apple is the only company that buys technology from another and includes it as part of it overall product scheme. I use Siri to call someone in my address book, look up an address mostly. I don't use my iPhone so much still I prefer a landline to make calls and use my iPhone when not at home or work, I guess that makes me old?
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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

I use it all the time. It's much easier than typing something out on the iPhone's keypad.
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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

 

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

All good points....yes, it's by no means perfect. But I do use it a lot. To be able to not open the iphone, just hold down the home button, hear the Siri "start" sound and just say, "Text Alex, (daughter), I'm on my way," w/o having to type it is really great. Same thing with reminders, notes, placing phone calls, etc.

 

I especially like the Siri integration with maps, Siri, "Directions to the Pink Pepper in Scottsdale?" And the maps program is up and running showing me the way. I was using the TomTom App but I like how simple Maps is. Have not had any problems with it. 

 

P.S. I was like you when I first got it....but the more I use it the more I like it. Don't get me wrong, a lot of trial and error as far as asking the right requests. But a lot better than typing everything. Good luck! :)


Edited by christopher126 - 1/23/13 at 6:32am
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Siri was developed by The Stanford Research Institute. Forstall and several other NeXT and Apple Stanford Grads had connections with SRI.

 

Like XEROX PARC this is a storied history of tech.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SRI_International_spin-offs

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I wont respond to the troll that thinks Apple is the only company that buys technology from another and includes it as part of it overall product scheme...

 

You just did. Duh.

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I use it for about everything it does, appointments, search (especially search), directions, alarms, notifications, texting, emailing, dictating, etc. Siri is interwoven into my daily routine, it has been a great addition to my routine.
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I wont respond to the troll that thinks Apple is the only company that buys technology from another and includes it as part of it overall product scheme. I use Siri to call someone in my address book, look up an address mostly. I don't use my iPhone so much still I prefer a landline to make calls and use my iPhone when not at home or work, I guess that makes me old?

Yep, kind of does! :)

 

With my iPad 2, I ordered all my magazines, WSJ, and local paper online. I espoused on these boards how much I was doing in helping the planet. I have gone back to the paper product because I enjoy reading the newspapers and magazines better than on the iPad. I'm right with you....old, too! :)

 

P.S. I recycle everything! Drives my GF nuts! :)

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I use it for about everything it does, appointments, search (especially search), directions, alarms, notifications, texting, emailing, dictating, etc. Siri is interwoven into my daily routine, it has been a great addition to my routine.

Sounds good. It will also set the Timer automatically...."Set timer to three minutes." (Poached eggs) and I like it to open an App. Siri, "Open Chase app." And, bingo it works! Pretty cool :)

 

My GF is always asking me to ask Siri, "How tall is Tom Brady?" Or, "How old is Tom Brady?" Not so cool! :(

 

P.S. Good point on the Search use. I prefer to search on my iPhone more than on my iMac because of Siri! :)


Edited by christopher126 - 1/23/13 at 6:40am
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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

My wife and I use Siri every day in our business and especially when driving. Remembering pre-Siri to us is like pre cell phones, can't imagine life without her.
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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

Yes, I make all my calls through Siri, set up reminders, appointments, and alarms with it (it is especially useful for location reminders such as "Remind me about umbrella when I leave."), get it to tell me the time and weather forecast in plain sunlight (raise to speak), write notes, and control iTunes when I want to search for a particular artist, album, or song.
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I use Siri for the weather all the time. Right when I get up she lets me know whether I need a light or heavier jacket. I use her to tweet and text because it is pretty quick. Reminders are really good with Siri. "Siri remind me tomorrow at 5 pm that I have practice at 7 pm." She gets the context and the times correct. Sports scores work well for various pro and college sports which is pretty good. If you say something like "What was the Kings score last night?" she knows there's the NBA Kings and the NHL Kings and she'll ask you which one you meant.

 

I was in Barnes & Noble a couple weeks ago (it's now closed down..how sad) and I saw a How to Use Siri or something book and it was about 200 pages. There's apparently so much you can do with it that you have to really dig in.

 

Keep in mind that most people I would imagine aren't using her at work. I use her in the car and at home and sometimes when I'm out in the world. It is still a little awkward to command the phone when in close quarters with others.

 

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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

 

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

 



Siri is shockingly convenient and much faster than doing certain things manually.  It's great for texting ("text my wife that I'm heading home").  It's a LOT easier for setting reminders or alarms ("wake me up at 6 am tomorrow" or "remind me to make a doctors appointment for tomorrow morning").  It takes a fraction of time and effort, versus tapping and typing.

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Yes, I make all my calls through Siri, set up reminders, appointments, and alarms with it (it is especially useful for location reminders such as "Remind me about umbrella when I leave."), get it to tell me the time and weather forecast in plain sunlight (raise to speak), write notes, and control iTunes when I want to search for a particular artist, album, or song.

I'd forgotten about "Raise to Speak!" Very cool, Thanks. 

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I use it all the time for texting my wife (and the other carpool moms) when I drop the kids off at school in the morning. Any reminder I want to make? Siri. Reading incoming texts when driving, launching an app, scores, movies, general information, a few jokes (Two iPhones walk into a bar...)...

 

"Take me home" and off it goes.

 

Yeah, all the time. It is a great search tool.

 

I do have an accent (Boston accent influenced by 6 years in SC), so sometimes I need to be deliberate with my words. But as others said, the more you use it the better it is and more predictive it can be.

 

It knows who to text or call when I say wife, mom, dad, etc.

 

also, I noticed if you want a ? you need to say questionmark, other wise it will write question mark

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use it occasionally like asking Weather, and NFL playoff schedule, movies etc without unlocking the phone. the integration between Siri and Map is also very useful

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"Remind me that I need eggs when I get to ACME" - Siri is great for things like that. Also great for invoking maps/directions while driving.
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I stopped using Siri. It was more problem free to type a question to Google rather than have Siri misunderstand me. Too frustrating.
 

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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

 

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

i use it daily! I'm a home health nurse and spend a lot of time in my car. I use siri to bring up phone numbers, texting and map info on a regular basis. It's not without its hiccups, but hits much more often than misses!

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I frequently use the dictation feature on the Mac too.

How do you do this??

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What kind of fool would be looking up an address that you're already at??



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Siri is ok for creating reminders, but I always get errors when trying to use her for search.  Being honest - Google's search app with voice is much faster and returns better results.  And it probably always will, because after all, Google is a data company, Apple is not.  I hope Apple continues to develop Siri and work on any server issues.

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I use Siri and voice input all the time. It's quite easy, not at all "cumbersome." But that's different standard for each person.

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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

It's great for posting to forums like this… while surfing on my iPad in bed.

I also use it all the time to get sports scores and schedules... On the couch in front of the tube. It's amazing how well it does filtering out the background noise coming from the TV.

I frequently use the dictation feature on the Mac too.
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Awww, come on. Apple's highly innovative, not a corporte behemoth that buys innovation out of competitors.

Innovate, don't litigate, Android.

In other words, innovate, so Samsung et al can copy whatever you do.

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I'm waiting for the e-mail integration, then I think I'd use it all the time. I don't use it to look places up very often because the Maps on iOS 6 frankly are horrible. Finding out that it's using a lot of old data from OpenStreetMap makes a lot of sense now that I see the results. I tried using OpenStreet once before & found it to be just like a lot of other open projects, nice idea but very buggy & incomplete. Apple needs to just pony up & pay for map data from someone the way other GPS apps do, or maybe they should have bought out MapQuest. The 3D buildings are cool where they work but they are hardly functional for everyday use. I actually love the functionality of Google's new Maps app much better than the old iOS version, but it does suck the battery out of my phone like nobody's business. Would be really nice if they did what CoPilot does where you can do directions & it only shows the map when you are within a certain distance from your turn, saves a ton of battery in those situations I need a quick GPS but don't have my charger.

Man I wandered way off topic, sorry about that.
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How do you do this??

 

 

The default shortcut to start dictation on your Mac is pressing the Function (Fn) key twice. The first time you try to start dictation, you'll be prompted to enable it.

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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...
I use it a fair amount. It's great in the car when you need simple answers that don't need to be read. (If you turn on certain other features, then Siri's more complicated responses will be read back to you.)

But, I find it most useful for making quick notes, setting alarms, setting caledar events and reminders, and dictating.
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I'm curious how many users actually get a lot of value out of Siri.  It's not a bad idea, and it has certainly gotten better (and will continue to do so).  But at the current stage...do a lot of you guys use it frequently and get much out of it?

I myself never really use it after exploring it for a bit.  I found it sort of cumbersome for getting things done.  But, I might not represent the broader Apple base...

I use it constantly.

"Remind me to take out the garbage when I get home." Location based reminder set up in about 5 seconds.

"Remind me to call my grandmother tomorrow at 3pm." Time based reminder set up in about 5 seconds.

"Directions to blah blah blah." Get directions in about 5 seconds

"Set alarm for 28 minutes" Set an alarm in about 5 seconds. Used this today when at a parking meter that was only for 30 minutes.

"Add to Grocery Note eggs." Update the note in about 5 seconds. Because you can have multiple notes this can sometimes be tricky. Every now and then it looks for a note that is the name of the item I wish to add. It works better if you first find the proper note and then say add but that then becomes a 2 stage process making it take about 7 seconds. *gasp*

No need for going through apps, then fields, then typing in the data. I'm quite surprised by iPhone owners that see me do these simple commands don't know it's an option. "Work smarter, not harder." ~Scrooge McDuck

That said, there are a lot of changes I'd like to see. For instance, if something requires searching via your chosen search engine then allow that to happen without being pushed to Safari or requiring the extra steps to get there. This one thing making Google's option look more refined.

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I am replying with dictation but I don't think I can get used to this. It gets things wrong sometimes. Maybe it's just not used my voice.
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The default shortcut to start dictation on your Mac is pressing the Function (Fn) key twice. The first time you try to start dictation, you'll be prompted to enable it.

This message was dictated in mountain lion to send a message to Dick Applebaum. Okay now how do I turn this thing off? Let me try this key.

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I am replying with dictation but I don't think I can get used to this. It gets things wrong sometimes. Maybe it's just not used my voice.

In that regard the tech is still young. It will learn from you to an extent but they will need something more high-level if they want to truly understand everyone's language, dialect, cultural terminology, phonemes, speech impediments, etc. It's a daunting task.

I had hoped Apple would use a well written paragraph that you can read to Siri when you first get your device so that it can then have all the needed parts to understand most of the items above for analyzing to speed up the learning process.

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Siri is ok for creating reminders, but I always get errors when trying to use her for search.  Being honest - Google's search app with voice is much faster and returns better results. 

 

Especially with the nifty, "He now praises the iPad," feature. lol.gif

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