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So you have to waste the product and money and energy to ship the old product. Not green at all.

 

You don't have a clue what green means, do you?


What about Personal waste?

Stop wasting so much, personally, then? 1confused.gif


Why do I need to get rid of a perfectly good display when the cpu gets old?

 

Why do you think you do?

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post #122 of 142
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So we've got confirmations of Haswell, Thunderbolt 2.0, new Wi-fi, and H.265 on deck.

 

Not to mention the fact that the Thunderbolt Display is obvious. This is the Year of the Mac all over again.

 

The bad news is that, to save money on events, everything will apparently be released at a single event in June. 1biggrin.gif

 

Just wanted to point out that when I announced everything would be announced at WWDC all at once, I had thought it was a joke.

 

 

We're now closing in on the end of May in the Year of the Chock Full Pipeline. And not a new single product release.

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post #123 of 142
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Just wanted to point out that when I announced everything would be announced at WWDC all at once, I had thought it was a joke.


We're now closing in on the end of May in the Year of the Chock Full Pipeline. And not a new single product release.

I'm fairly confident that iPhones and Mac Pros will be introduced.
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I'm fairly confident that iPhones and Mac Pros will be introduced.

I see Mac Pros a lot more than iPhones. So far, the pattern of iDevices have been shifting to Fall. Whether they'll keep doing that is up to them, but I would follow the pattern until something more convincing comes up.
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post #125 of 142
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I'm fairly confident that iPhones and Mac Pros will be introduced.

 

iPhones and iPads are for Fall release events. Apple will apparently use WWDC to...

 

...introduce new Mac Pros, update the Mini and iMac to Haswell, reunify the MacBook Pro line by bumping to Haswell and going all Retina, reboot the MacBook Air, show off the next versions of iOS and OS X, introduce an updated Thunderbolt Display, promise an update to iWork, apologize for Final Cut X again, debut a music streaming service, tease a Christmas-time TV introduction and explain why we need a new iOS wristwatch.

 

Did I miss anything?

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post #126 of 142
Originally Posted by Frank777 View Post
Apple will apparently use WWDC to...

 

...introduce new Mac Pros, update the Mini and iMac to Haswell, reunify the MacBook Pro line by bumping to Haswell and going all Retina, reboot the MacBook Air, show off the next versions of iOS and OS X, introduce an updated Thunderbolt Display, promise an update to iWork, apologize for Final Cut X again, debut a music streaming service, tease a Christmas-time TV introduction and explain why we need a new iOS wristwatch.

 

Did I miss anything?

 

You forgot "show us a revolutionary new product that will create an entirely new product category".

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post #127 of 142
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I'm fairly confident that iPhones and Mac Pros will be introduced.

 

iPhones and iPads are for Fall release events. Apple will apparently use WWDC to...

 

...introduce new Mac Pros, update the Mini and iMac to Haswell, reunify the MacBook Pro line by bumping to Haswell and going all Retina, reboot the MacBook Air, show off the next versions of iOS and OS X, introduce an updated Thunderbolt Display, promise an update to iWork, apologize for Final Cut X again, debut a music streaming service, tease a Christmas-time TV introduction and explain why we need a new iOS wristwatch.

 

Did I miss anything?

 

Updated version of all iLife apps? Most of those have been stalled for several years as well.

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Updated version of all iLife apps? Most of those have been stalled for several years as well.

Slow, but not stalled. Things did get tweeked and fiddled here and there.
post #129 of 142

GarageBand going 64-bit is basically all I (can remember) care(ing) about on that front.

 

It crashes if a file ever goes above 4GB…

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Updated version of all iLife apps? Most of those have been stalled for several years as well.

Slow, but not stalled. Things did get tweeked and fiddled here and there.

 

Bug fixes so it doesn't crash is stalled in my view.

 

 

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GarageBand 6, also known as GarageBand '11, is part of the iLife '11 package, which was released on October 20, 2010. This version brings new features such as Flex Time, a tool to adjust the rhythm of a recording. It also includes the ability to match the tempo of one track with another instantly, additional guitar amps and stompboxes, 22 new lessons for guitar and piano, and "How Did I Play?", a tool to measure the accuracy and progress of a piano or guitar performance in a lesson.

 

We are talking almost three years without a real update. That is ages in the technology realm. It's so long ago that Apple stock was at $250 a share.

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post #131 of 142
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Bug fixes so it doesn't crash is stalled in my view.

That's an improvement though. I never had crashes.

There were a few minor adjustments to the UI too.
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Just as we're about to enter June in the Year of the Chock-Full-Pipeline-With-No-Actual-Products, Apple surprises us by introducing a new version of the iPod that is distinguished by its LACK of a former feature.

 

WWDC had better be amazing.

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post #133 of 142
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Just as we're about to enter June in the Year of the Chock-Full-Pipeline-With-No-Actual-Products, Apple surprises us by introducing a new version of the iPod that is distinguished by its LACK of a former feature.

WWDC had better be amazing.

Actually I think that new Touch is exactly what many are looking for. It is a very low cost entry into the iOS app world.
post #134 of 142

The price is reasonable also for the model.
 

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Just as we're about to enter June in the Year of the Chock-Full-Pipeline-With-No-Actual-Products, Apple surprises us by introducing a new version of the iPod that is distinguished by its LACK of a former feature.

WWDC had better be amazing.

Call me a person with low expectations but as long as at least one new Mac model gets updated with Haswell processors, I am good. I would love for them to make a top of the line Mac Pro as promised with the very best of everything though that would be the same expectation as wanting my Raiders to win a Super Bowl in 2013-14.
post #136 of 142
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iPhones and iPads are for Fall release events. Apple will apparently use WWDC to...

 

...introduce new Mac Pros, update the Mini and iMac to Haswell, reunify the MacBook Pro line by bumping to Haswell and going all Retina, reboot the MacBook Air, show off the next versions of iOS and OS X, introduce an updated Thunderbolt Display, promise an update to iWork, apologize for Final Cut X again, debut a music streaming service, tease a Christmas-time TV introduction and explain why we need a new iOS wristwatch.

 

Did I miss anything?

That sounds like their schedule for the next three months, not a single event.

 

Mac Pros, smaller "retina display"thunderbolt displays, iOS 7 and OS X 10.9 (Ocelot) previews at WWDC.  

 

Haswell iMacs and Minis announced late June.  Speed bump only, no redesigns.  Base model shipping immediately, higher end in 4-6 weeks.

 

iWork is dead.   FCPX will get point release (10.1)

 

Streaming service will be introduced with new device (iWatch?  iCondom?)

post #137 of 142
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Actually I think that new Touch is exactly what many are looking for. It is a very low cost entry into the iOS app world.

 

The product itself  isn't bad. My comment is focused on the fact that we've been waiting for new products - any new or updated products - for five months, and Apple finally goes and introduces a product update that doesn't actually have any new features.

 

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That sounds like their schedule for the next three months, not a single event.

 

Mac Pros, smaller "retina display"thunderbolt displays, iOS 7 and OS X 10.9 (Ocelot) previews at WWDC.  

 

Haswell iMacs and Minis announced late June.  Speed bump only, no redesigns.  Base model shipping immediately, higher end in 4-6 weeks.

 

iWork is dead.   FCPX will get point release (10.1)

 

Streaming service will be introduced with new device (iWatch?  iCondom?)

 

That was sarcasm. I don't believe Apple is crazy enough to introduce all of that at a single event.

 

Mac Pros are clearly coming at the end of the year (Thunderbolt 2.0) and September's the usually time for the iOS devices.

 

The big question for WWDC is whether just the mobile line with got to Haswell, or whether the desktop line (Mini and iMac) will go Haswell at the same time. Apple has never really updated both lines simultaneously.

 

And if iWork is dead, there's going to be a riot.

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post #138 of 142
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Just as we're about to enter June in the Year of the Chock-Full-Pipeline-With-No-Actual-Products, Apple surprises us by introducing a new version of the iPod that is distinguished by its LACK of a former feature.

WWDC had better be amazing.

Call me a person with low expectations but as long as at least one new Mac model gets updated with Haswell processors, I am good. I would love for them to make a top of the line Mac Pro as promised with the very best of everything though that would be the same expectation as wanting my Raiders to win a Super Bowl in 2013-14.

 

Hey, some of us are Raider fans AND Laker fans. Just take it easy on us. We can't all afford enough wine to hide the state of disappointment for our teams right now.

 

I mean if I could afford that much wine and disappointment, I'd be a 49'er fan.

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post #139 of 142
Apparently Mac Pro supplies are constrained so that's a good sign. Also at least the Lakers made the playoffs even if the Spurs did sweep them. The Raiders need to get to a wild card spot.
post #140 of 142
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The product itself  isn't bad. My comment is focused on the fact that we've been waiting for new products - any new or updated products - for five months, and Apple finally goes and introduces a product update that doesn't actually have any new features.
It is a product variant designed for a low cost, it really shouldn't have new features. More so the regular time for iPod releases is in the fall, think of this as preparing the battle field. We could see all new iPods in the fall with this guy taking the burden of the low end.
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That was sarcasm. I don't believe Apple is crazy enough to introduce all of that at a single event.
I suspect we will see more than usual though. Mainly because of support hardware.
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Mac Pros are clearly coming at the end of the year (Thunderbolt 2.0) and September's the usually time for the iOS devices.
Actually it isn't that clear. If they don't come now a lot of people will give up on Apple. Frankly I suspect a debut and shipment within a month. Apple has learned its lesson from the iMac foul up. If any thing is said at WWDC it won't be long at all before the Mac Pros replacement ships.
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The big question for WWDC is whether just the mobile line with got to Haswell, or whether the desktop line (Mini and iMac) will go Haswell at the same time. Apple has never really updated both lines simultaneously.
I believe they have but my memory is old. In any event I'm not sure intel will have ever product required for Apple anyways. Intels reveal next week ought to indicate to us which Apple products get updated.
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And if iWork is dead, there's going to be a riot.

IWork needs lots of well WORK. They need to address the file integration issue and features especially in Numbers. It could be another year before we see a decent upgrade though.
post #141 of 142

Well, we've gotten past the WWDC bump and the MacBook Airs.

 

A Haswell MacBook Pro was spotted in the wild. But there's no sign yet of the Haswell-flavored iMacs or Mac Minis.

 

Anyone want to venture a guess when the Mini will be updated?

Is it waiting for a new 27" Display? (Do Mini buyers purchase Thunderbolt displays?)

 

Apple's next "traditional" release window is the first week of August, right?

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post #142 of 142
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Well, we've gotten past the WWDC bump and the MacBook Airs.
Yes and now we have to wait.
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A Haswell MacBook Pro was spotted in the wild. But there's no sign yet of the Haswell-flavored iMacs or Mac Minis.
Kinda sucks don't it! However I see this as a good sign, hopefully it means major upgrades such as Theunderbolt 2 and SSD standard.
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Anyone want to venture a guess when the Mini will be updated?
Is it waiting for a new 27" Display? (Do Mini buyers purchase Thunderbolt displays?)

Apple's next "traditional" release window is the first week of August, right?
Nope! I suspect the end of September or later.
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