or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPhone › Apple and Samsung help drive global smartphone shipments to record 700M units in 2012
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Apple and Samsung help drive global smartphone shipments to record 700M units in 2012

post #1 of 46
Thread Starter 
New research released on Thursday from market analysis firm Strategy Analytics shows that Samsung and Apple drove global smartphone shipment growth to a massive 43 percent in 2012, which amounted to a record breaking 700 million units shipped, with the Korean company's share skyrocketing to nearly one third of the market.

iPhone 4


According to the firm's Wireless Smartphone Strategies (WSS) service, Samsung took the lion's share of shipments with a 30.4 percent slice of the market to extend its already wide lead over second and third place manufacturers Apple and Nokia.

In 2012, Apple shipped some 135.8 million iPhones, the only smartphone line sold by the Cupertino, Calif., company, while Samsung's diverse lineup of handsets brought in 213 million shipments. Nokia came in a distant third with 35 million units shipped last year.

Global Smartphone Shipments
Source: Strategy Analytics


Samsung's performance amounted to the most units ever shipped by a smartphone vendor in a single year, smashing Nokia's 2010 record of 100.1 million units shipped.

As for Apple, the company also saw strong shipments and grew 46 percent annually to garner 19.4 percent of the global market in 2012. The performance is almost identical to the iPhone's 19 percent marketshare captured in 2011. Strategy Analytics said Apple's growth was somewhat stunted due to the company's limited presence in developing regions like Africa.

Global Smartphone Share


Smartphone adoption is booming, clearly seen by a recent report that found the worldwide market stood at just over one billion users at the end of 2012's third quarter.

"By the third quarter of 2011, we estimate there were 708 million smartphones in use worldwide," said Strategy Analytics Senior Analyst Scott Bicheno at the time. After a further year of soaring demand, the number of smartphones in use worldwide reached 1.038 billion units during the third quarter of 2012.?

On a month-to-month basis, worldwide smartphone shipments grew 38 percent, jumping from 157 million units shipped in the fourth quarter of 2011 to 217 million in quarter four 2012. The huge boost was was included in the 700.1 million units shipped over the course of last year, compared to 490.5 million in 2011.
post #2 of 46

Well, there's something that Cook and company can figure out...

 

... how to get more of Samsung's customers.

 

There must be quite a few top end customers that Apple can win over.
 

The question is "how?".

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #3 of 46
Samsung has 30% market share, and Apple has +90% of the profits.
post #4 of 46
The real story is Nokia's collapse. Pre-2009 they dominated all segments of the market, and as late as early 2011 still dominated the low and middle segments. That changed when they announced their switch to Windows Phone nearly a year before the phones were ready to ship. They "Osborned" themselves. Samsung swooped in and took over those segments, and then came in with the Galaxy series to attack the high end. That said, most of Samsung's sales are still in the low to mid range.

The iPhone line does fine against the Galaxy line. If Apple wants to grow, they might consider something in the mid range. Let Samsung and the others fight over the low-end.
post #5 of 46

Samsung can ship as many phones as they would like, but it's really the sales that matter. I'm sure they sold a lot of phones, but this whole thing of looking at shipments is really just smoke. They could have shipped them all into the ocean for all I care.

 

Samsung also created a thousand variations of their phones too. For Apple there is discipline and actual design and feature decisions that are made; at Samsung, every idea is a good idea and they will try to sell whatever they think people would be willing to buy. It's a completely different mentality. 

post #6 of 46
That's like saying Bill Gates and I have a combined net worth of $61 billion. j/k

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #7 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Smartphone adoption is booming, clearly seen by a recent report that found the global smartphone market stood at just over one billion users at the end of 2012's third quarter.

 

That really caught my eye.   Thinking back, at six year intervals, it was roughly like this...

 

  • 1994 = first ever smartphone, the IBM Simon
  • 2000 =  smartphone sales begin to take off
  • 2006 =  100 million smartphone users
  • 2012 =  1 billion smartphones users

 

What next by 2018?

post #8 of 46
Damn... Nokia is in 3rd place.... I feel bad for 4th, 5th, 6th place and so on.

Not that it's a contest or anything... but damn...

Samsung and Apple are definitely forces to be reckoned with.
post #9 of 46

What an assinine and sensational headline, that means jack. Nokia shipped almost nothing, so "Apple and Nokia combined" is just used to add drama. Yes, Samsung shipped more phones than Apple, because Apple only produces high end phones, and Samsung has like 45,205 phone models and a shitload of pay as you go and dirt cheap junk. If Apple wanted to, they could make a $100 if they wanted to. But clealry they don't, and they shouldn't. But glad to see AppleInsider consistent with the anti-Apple trolling. I'm wondering what site I can go to that isn't negative headline after negative headline, every single day? Clearly even the Apple fansites have a fetish for mindlessly shitting on Apple as much as they can. 

 

Also, I'm sure Samsung, a South Korean company, is giddy at how US media has been shitting on their own US company and rooting for Samsung instead. It's nauseating. 


Edited by Slurpy - 1/24/13 at 10:13pm
post #10 of 46
Not sure why we sure should believe *any* figures concerning their phones when Samsung refuses to release official numbers, as Apple did yesterday. Analysts are free to put out just about any staistics, with no legal consequences.
post #11 of 46
Good for Shamsung.
post #12 of 46

Didn't they lie about shipments (not sales, shipments) before, and it was discovered in court? Why would we trust them now?

Originally Posted by Marvin

The only thing more insecure than Android’s OS is its userbase.
Reply

Originally Posted by Marvin

The only thing more insecure than Android’s OS is its userbase.
Reply
post #13 of 46
Another negative and really pointless article giving the wrong perception off Apple. People with less knowledge about Apple could really be misled into tho thinking Apple is a looser. A big mistake. Apple insider defiantly isn't doing Apple any favors. It's time to remove it from my homepage!
post #14 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by KDarling View Post

 

That really caught my eye.   Thinking back, at six year intervals, it was roughly like this...

 

  • 1994 = first ever smartphone, the IBM Simon
  • 2000 =  smartphone sales begin to take off
  • 2006 =  100 million smartphone users
  • 2012 =  1 billion smartphones users

 

What next by 2018?

I don't think there will be the smartphone as we know it in 2018. There will be some sort of wearable equivalent.

post #15 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by mastersplinter View Post

Samsung has 30% market share, and Apple has +90% of the profits.

 

Awesome.  Why should I, as a shareholder of neither company, care?

 

Apples next advert.

The new iPhone.  Now with more profit.

Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, coming iPhone 5S, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x1, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod classic...
Reply
Household: MacBook, iPad 16gb wifi, iPad 64gb wifi, iPad Mini 32gb, coming iPhone 5S, iPhone 4S 32gb, iPhone 32gb, iPod Touch 4th gen x1, iPod nano 16gb gen 5 x2, iPod nano gen 3 8gb, iPod classic...
Reply
post #16 of 46
Didn't I just read that Apple sold more smartphones in the latest quarter than all Android device makers combined?
post #17 of 46
Haha, in most European markets Samsung has been running a two for one promotion for over a year. That mean they're "shipping" two phones for every one customer, skewing the sales figures, and who knows how much the carriers are subsidizing. This is a perfect illustration of how market share is meaningless. Half of these shipped smartphones are going unised or immediately injected into the second hand market. Meanwhile Apple ships half as many but reaps ten times the profit.
post #18 of 46

Wow, this headline exists to inflame not to inform.  Sheesh.  This is the end of my visiting Appleinsider on a daily basis.

 

The tone of AI has become too hyped up, distorted and anti-apple for my taste.

 

Kindle Fire blows past iPads to destroy them over Christmas!  iPhone 5 demand falls by 50%! 

 

I get it.  Misleading Applebashing headlines gets eyeballs, and this is a business, with the goals of disparaging Apple these days and attracting viewers to increase ad revenue.

 

Anyone have suggestions for more rational, balanced and accurate sites to follow and discuss Apple?  

 

Macrumors?  The Mac Observer?  Isn't there a French site that offers a less sensationalistic approach?  Thanks.

post #19 of 46

 

Apple's Biggest PR Weapon in One Word - SUPPORT!!!!
 
Apple Stores + Toll Free Apple Phone Support are Apple's BIGGEST WEAPON! That combination is unmatched by any other tech company!!!! Apple should brag about their support, and REALLY LOUD!!!! 
 
If a Customer is having an issue with a Mac or iOS product, they have Toll Free PHONE SUPPORT, plus Apple Stores, but none of Apple's Competitors have anything remotely comparable to that!!! Except maybe 1 or 2 Microsoft Stores!!!  
 
On the days of Big Sell Offs, such PR CLARITY is missing in Apple's PR!!!!
 
It'd be great if someone reminded Apple's PR about that OBVIOUS PR "WEAPON" = SUPPORT!!! 
 
 
When iPhone was introduced in 2007, the Macworld Banner at Mascone Center said: 
 
We Gotta Talk!!!! 
 
Who can one talk to as far as Android? Google doesn't have stores, nor Phone Support! 
 
Do Samsung and other Android Vendors, or Cell Carriers have anything like AppleCare? 
 
Do any of them have: 
 
Screen Sharing, where Tech Support can see Customer's Screen, and see exactly what's going on?  
 
Individual Followup, like AppleCare does!
 
Repair Facilities?
 
Do they have all that Support Centralize as Apple does, and not just in the USA?!?!
 
No, I am not saying that Apple Stores and AppleCare are Perfect, but, compared to Apple's Competitors, it's not even a Contest!
 
 
Cell Carriers are pathetic as far as Support!
 
None of those Vendors can be compared to Apple's Support! 
 
The Old http://www.apple.com/getamac Compaign is now http://www.apple.com/why-mac/ It should be expanded to iOS and Showcase how Macs and iOS All Work Together with iCloud!!! All Under AppleCare Support, plus Appe Retail Stores! 
 
It'd be great if someone reminded Apple's PR about that OBVIOUS PR "WEAPON" = SUPPORT!!!  
 
The Insane Analysts make it sound like nobody wants iPhones or Mac, and the Sky Is Falling, with Apple about to close it's stores:)!! But if that is true, what are people buying instead? Samsung? 
 
TV Media is particularly annoying, trying to sum up such falcehood panic into short soundbites, that add to the panic! 
 
For as long as Macs and iOS are Integrated, and Supported as well, or even better than now, I say that nobody can compete with them! And, if that Support Factor continues with all its future products, TV, or whatever, Apple will be Un-Defeated!
 
It's amazing that Apple provides such SUPPORT and is still is making Biggest Profits, Selling Most Expensive High End Products! At the same time, Apple's Competitors are Saving Money by not providing such caliber Support as Apple does, and, after they save that Money, they still can't make Profits anywhere near Apples!
 
I don't hear too many stories about criminals trying to steal Samsung or other Non-Apple Products, but they do rob Apple Store, and people with iOS Devices! Obviously, I'd rather not see such "compliments" and "endorsements" from criminals… I'd rather not see any crime like that! 
 
Whenever I ask teenagers this Q: 
 
If money was non-issue, would you pick iPhone, or iPad vs Androids like Samsung etc? 
 
The Answer is always - iPhone!!! That's what Kids Really Want, if they had the $$$!!!!
 
It'd be great if someone mentioned that to Analysts and the Media!!!!
 
On the days of Big Sell Offs, such PR CLARITY is missing in Apple's PR!!!! But, even when AAPL is back at $700 and higher, that PR CLARITY about SUPPORT, should become Synonymous with Apple Brand! 
 
I can't wait to see Apple's TV Commercials Drilling Into Public's Heads that BIG THEME: 
 
APPLE SUPPORT = APPLECARE PHONE SUPPORT + APPLE STORES!!!
APPLE SUPPORT = APPLECARE PHONE SUPPORT + APPLE STORES!!!

Edited by macologist - 1/25/13 at 10:16am

Go  Apple!!!

Reply

Go  Apple!!!

Reply
post #20 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

What an assinine and sensational headline, that means jack. Nokia shipped almost nothing, so "Apple and Nokia combined" is just used to add drama. Yes, Samsung shipped more phones than Apple, because Apple only produces high end phones, and Samsung has like 45,205 phone models and a shitload of pay as you go and dirt cheap junk. If Apple wanted to, they could make a $100 if they wanted to. But clealry they don't, and they shouldn't. But glad to see AppleInsider consistent with the anti-Apple trolling. I'm wondering what site I can go to that isn't negative headline after negative headline, every single day? Clearly even the Apple fansites have a fetish for mindlessly shitting on Apple as much as they can. 

 

Also, I'm sure Samsung, a South Korean company, is giddy at how US media has been shitting on their own US company and rooting for Samsung instead. It's nauseating. 

It is ok every dog has its day, remember everyone was tooting Ericsson, nokia, palm and today it is Samsung, well the end id nigh, just a matter of time when everything will turn sour and it is a poisonous touch when the press starts to talk about it and not a blessing.

post #21 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Well, there's something that Cook and company can figure out...

 

... how to get more of Samsung's customers.

 

There must be quite a few top end customers that Apple can win over.
 

The question is "how?".

Sign up China Mobile.  It's pretty simple.  They got T-Mobile signed up which was a BIG Samsung reseller, but they aren't that big overall.

 

You have to realize that Samsung didn't sell many SIII's compared to the iPhone 5.  35 Mil vs about 50 Mil all combined from the various quarters.

 

The Note and Note II are small potatoes.  The SIII mini I don't know how many they sold.

 

The rest of the lineup is all very cheap phones, some are running Android 2.3.  Samsung is also in more countries and in more carriers, but the BIGGEST deal Apple could do it sign up China Mobile, they represent almost 800 MIllion users, but they are not on a 4G/LTE system, they are on an older proprietary system and they are supposed to be going to something similar, but still propietary to 4G/LTE, but both parties have indicated they want to do a deal. MY GUT feeling is probably sometime between June and Sept we MIGHT hear something.


The other flip of the coin is Apple goes after profitable business that brings in more to the bottom line, Samsung, as a company, only did $8BIl in Net Profits last quarter and they have their appliances, TV, telecom, components, mobile, computers, and whatever else those guys do, but Apple is doing just fine.  Remember, Apple has to get Foxconn and all of the component players to be able to ramp up to handle building $200+ Million phones in a year, which they are doing but just them time, they have been switching over away from Samsung for many components, they are planning on investing $9 Bil in chip mfg, TMSC is planning on investing another $9 Bil in chip mfg to handle more Apple business.  Samsung is actually reducing their investments in chip mfg during this year.  

 

I wouldn't worry, most of the Android business is low margin, no profit business and their user base doesn't spend much on content, apps, third party stuff, etc., but there is STILL a LOT of demand for Apple products in China from what i hear, it's just the next BIG market for Apple and over the course of the next few years, Apple should double their business, if not more than that.

 

What I like hearing is the big deals and increased business in the corporate and government world, which is typically not a strength in the past for Apple, but if they get more and more large deployments in those two areas, they'll do just fine.

 

Slow and steady is their course.  They can only ratchet up their business so fast.  Samsung was really trying to go after Nokia and on the side do what they can to compete against Apple, because they for some reason want to own the entire Smartphone industry, which just won't happen.  I think Samsung should be more worried about Google and their Motorola unit taking business away from them.  Which will probably further confuse the Android market.

 

Either way, don't worry.

post #22 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by cycomiko View Post

 

Awesome.  Why should I, as a shareholder of neither company, care?

 

Apples next advert.

The new iPhone.  Now with more profit.

All I can say is that Apple stock is DIRT CHEAP. Trading at a P/E of 10!!   It's undervalued.  Google is trading at a P/E of 22, overvalued.

 

Here is an interesting way to look at Google.  Google stock has about 300 Million shares, Apple has about 900 Million.  Now, if you dilute Google, then you divide the stock by 3 and come up with a comparable share price of $250 a share for Google and $450 a share for Apple. The EPS for Google would then be $11 a share, Apple would be at $44 a share.  Google is STILL trading at the same P/E of around 22, which is overvalued, Apple would be trading at a P/E of 10, undervalued.  Then Apple pays dividends, which Google doesn't.  Apple made, after dividends, $13 Bil last quarter, Google w/o taking a $350 Mil hit for Motorola Mobility loss, only made about $2.5 Bil in cash.

 

Apple stock price is just getting hit because of the flat earnings per share and the fact that these people in the media can't explain things to people very well in that Apple earnings reflect paying $3BIl in dividends whereas last year, they didn't.  Now, Apple doesn't have a demand problem, they have a supply problem, which is getting worked out.  They also didn't get the iPad minis shipping until Dec in Asia, they also didn't get the iPad mini w/cellular shipping until this month, and they didn't release the iPhone 5 in Asia until last month, and the iMacs are still dealing with production issues which have to get worked out.

 

I think the next couple of years should be big for Apple as far as I can tell.  I think bringing back Mac mini and other Mac desktops being made in the US is a good move and that frees up production lines in China for other products.

 

Personally, what Apple is doing and the amount they are growing, I honestly don't know how they do it.  I remember back in the days when they made $500 Mil in profit was a BIG deal, now that's a less than a week's worth of net profit

 

But as Tim announced, LOTS of investment in new Apple Stores in China and other locations HUGE investments in chip building plants.

 

I am VERY interested to see what their new ARM chip designs are going to do.   

post #23 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by robogobo View Post

Haha, in most European markets Samsung has been running a two for one promotion for over a year. 

 

Which countries? Is that on off-contract phones or subsidised phones? Got a link? I haven't seen any offers like that in the UK.

post #24 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

What an assinine and sensational headline, that means jack. Nokia shipped almost nothing, so "Apple and Nokia combined" is just used to add drama. Yes, Samsung shipped more phones than Apple, because Apple only produces high end phones, and Samsung has like 45,205 phone models and a shitload of pay as you go and dirt cheap junk. If Apple wanted to, they could make a $100 if they wanted to. But clealry they don't, and they shouldn't. But glad to see AppleInsider consistent with the anti-Apple trolling. I'm wondering what site I can go to that isn't negative headline after negative headline, every single day? Clearly even the Apple fansites have a fetish for mindlessly shitting on Apple as much as they can. 

Also, I'm sure Samsung, a South Korean company, is giddy at how US media has been shitting on their own US company and rooting for Samsung instead. It's nauseating. 

Needed to be said
post #25 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by 512ke View Post

Wow, this headline exists to inflame not to inform.  Sheesh.  This is the end of my visiting Appleinsider on a daily basis.

The tone of AI has become too hyped up, distorted and anti-apple for my taste.

Kindle Fire blows past iPads to destroy them over Christmas!  iPhone 5 demand falls by 50%! 

I get it.  Misleading Applebashing headlines gets eyeballs, and this is a business, with the goals of disparaging Apple these days and attracting viewers to increase ad revenue.

Anyone have suggestions for more rational, balanced and accurate sites to follow and discuss Apple?  

Macrumors?  The Mac Observer?  Isn't there a French site that offers a less sensationalistic approach?  Thanks.

AI has been mixed. Dilger has been trying to do some rational correction, but there have also been some shameless pandering pieces—pandering to sensation, that is.

I've been thinking of going elsewhere, but where? Macrumors is a mess.
post #26 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by 512ke View Post

Wow, this headline exists to inflame not to inform.  Sheesh.  This is the end of my visiting Appleinsider on a daily basis.

The tone of AI has become too hyped up, distorted and anti-apple for my taste.

Kindle Fire blows past iPads to destroy them over Christmas!  iPhone 5 demand falls by 50%! 

I get it.  Misleading Applebashing headlines gets eyeballs, and this is a business, with the goals of disparaging Apple these days and attracting viewers to increase ad revenue.

Anyone have suggestions for more rational, balanced and accurate sites to follow and discuss Apple?  

Macrumors?  The Mac Observer?  Isn't there a French site that offers a less sensationalistic approach?  Thanks.
MacRumors? About as anti-Apple as you can get these days. Not the headlines per say, but the posts are definitely skewed negative,
post #27 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormM View Post

Didn't I just read that Apple sold more smartphones in the latest quarter than all Android device makers combined?

No sir.

melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
melior diabolus quem scies
Reply
post #28 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by taosbob View Post

Not sure why we sure should believe *any* figures concerning their phones when Samsung refuses to release official numbers, as Apple did yesterday. Analysts are free to put out just about any staistics, with no legal consequences.


well, we do know some stuff. they occasionally release numbers of their flagship models...
Galaxy s2 - 40 million in 20 months

Galaxy s3 - 30 million in 7 months

Galaxy note - 10 million in 6 months

Galaxy note 2 - 5 million in 3 months

 

That is 85 million in a 20 month span.

For comparison In that same 20 month span, Apple sold 190 million iPhones.

 

Samsung also recently announced that the galaxy line has passed 100 million units sold. The first Galaxy was sold in June of 2009, so these sales were over a span of about 42 months.

In the same time frame, Apple sold 290 million iPhones.

 

Samsung may have the most market share, but they are winning it on the low-end.

post #29 of 46
My, we've come a long way
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
post #30 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormM View Post

Didn't I just read that Apple sold more smartphones in the latest quarter than all Android device makers combined?

 

Do you mean at Verizon and AT&T in the US?

 

Yes sir!

post #31 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post

Damn... Nokia is in 3rd place.... I feel bad for 4th, 5th, 6th place and so on.

Not that it's a contest or anything... but damn...

Samsung and Apple are definitely forces to be reckoned with.


There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get.

http://gizmodo.com/5416781/top-5-assclown-iphone-quotes-in-2007
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -
Reply
post #32 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item.

"I like our strategy, I like it a lot"

Of course, that was years ago.
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
I’d rather have a better product than a better price.
Reply
post #33 of 46

Others = 40%

 

Two ways to look at this:

 

1. Someone will emerge from the "others" category to take a run at surpassing the two gorillas. Hello Huawei?

 

2. Samsung and Apple will keep growing at expense of others, which means someone will soon fall off the table altogether. No matter who you root for, that is still sad.

 

Some might argue that there is a 3rd scenario - this is not a zero-sum game and everyone can grow together. But I seriously doubt the proportions will stay as they are. A year from now, I surmise, one of the top 3 names in the table will change. There will also be at least one notable casualty from the current "others" group.

post #34 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance. It's a $500 subsidized item. They may make a lot of money. But if you actually take a look at the 1.3 billion phones that get sold, I'd prefer to have our software in 60% or 70% or 80% of them, than I would to have 2% or 3%, which is what Apple might get.

http://gizmodo.com/5416781/top-5-assclown-iphone-quotes-in-2007


Apple could mop up the market floor with a $199 iPhone 4 variant. but they won't do it because they don't care for market share, they want money. in other words, they are right where the want to be. which is not where analysts want them to be.

post #35 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Well, there's something that Cook and company can figure out...

 

... how to get more of Samsung's customers.

 

There must be quite a few top end customers that Apple can win over.
 

The question is "how?".

a) big screen

b) ads for those stupid and insecure people that think that bigger screen or more cores = better phone.

post #36 of 46
Originally Posted by OllieWallieWhiskers View Post
Apple could mop up the market floor with a $199 iPhone 4 variant.

 

No, this wouldn't happen. It would still be too expensive.

Originally Posted by Marvin

The only thing more insecure than Android’s OS is its userbase.
Reply

Originally Posted by Marvin

The only thing more insecure than Android’s OS is its userbase.
Reply
post #37 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post

a) big screen

b) ads for those stupid and insecure people that think that bigger screen or more cores = better phone.

 

Don't be silly.

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #38 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by OllieWallieWhiskers View Post

Samsung may have the most market share, but they are winning it on the low-end.

 

If using numbers dating back to 2009, then yes, that was true back then.  However, buying trends have changed a lot in the past three years.

 

Using just second half of 2012 numbers, it looks like ~40% of Samsung's smartphone sales have been of their latest high end phone (GS3).   Even higher if you count the Note as well.

 

See post here.


Edited by KDarling - 1/25/13 at 10:25am
post #39 of 46

deleted


Edited by MacRulez - 5/16/13 at 12:32pm
post #40 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by KDarling View Post

If using numbers dating back to 2009, then yes, that was true back then.  However, buying trends have changed a lot in the past three years.

Using just second half of 2012 numbers, it looks like ~40% of Samsung's smartphone sales have been of their latest high end phone (GS3).   Even higher if you count the Note as well.

See post here.
Firstly your own post link states 35% for S3 yet you now suddenly add 5% more? I guess making up figures make "nearly half" is not as bad as "a third"?

Also in that same thread you were already corrected on the numbers already being overly high, which you acknowledged yet now you still claiming an even higher 40% figure for S3 alone??

Samsung sold 100million galaxy S variants since its inception in 2010
The break down of 41 s3 is over 7months now so 5.85million a month works out under 18/qtr.

First 100days (6 sept) they announced they had sold just over 20million leaving 21million over another 100+days.

So under 20million for 4th qtr. Even if you count as much as 20million - only checks out at 31.7% of 63million shipments.

Inspiration begins with google

Reply

Inspiration begins with google

Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: iPhone
  • Apple and Samsung help drive global smartphone shipments to record 700M units in 2012
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPhone › Apple and Samsung help drive global smartphone shipments to record 700M units in 2012