Photos claim to show components bound for Apple's iPhone 5S and iPhone 6 - Page 2

Originally Posted by jragosta 
3. Visual voicemail is not supported natively, but there are plenty of third party apps that offer it for a couple of bucks.

Do you think that will change now that they offer the iPhone legitimately?

Originally Posted by blairh 
I'm not saying ST isn't a great service, but your original post wasn't truthful. 

Please stop. He has an iPhone on Straight Talk. He knows. It's just that simple.

See, even you know it's wrong.

Originally Posted by blairh 
What are you talking about? Straight Talk has a 2 GB data limit otherwise you get throttled. Why are you telling me not correct someone? Are you serious right now???

Because if he says they don't, he would know, as he's actually using the device in question on the network in question.

Originally Posted by jragosta 

 

Let's say I get a "free" iphone on AT&T. That's $90 per month for the plan I used, so $2160 over the 2 year contract period.

 

Now, compare that to my StraightTalk plan - which actually provides better service (unlimited everything). $45 per month - or $1080 over 2 years.

 

So your "free" iPhone costs me $1080.

 

Minor quibble:  the guy on contract also got the phone included, so isn't the difference really  $1080 - price of phone ?

 

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Originally Posted by blackbook 

Just because the other manufacturers can't figure out how to make a profit from sub-$500 smart phones doesn't mean Apple won't be able to.

Liquid Metal makes no sense for a cheap phone.  For one thing, it's not radio transparent like plastic.  For another, unless Apple has come up with a breakthrough, it's more costly.   The only reason to use it is to make pieces less susceptible to showing scratches, etc.

The funny thing about Liquid Metal (tm) to me, is that its characteristics are really more like "plastic pewter".   In fact, a major selling point of it is that it can be molded like plastic.  But no one would get excited about a dull name like that !

Originally Posted by blairh 
Do you realize I'm right regarding this service? Do you realize that Straight Talk does indeed throttle after you reach 2 GB of data before a month's period? Do you realize you are insisting that he is right just because he has this service? So he's automatically right just because he uses Straight Talk? 

Well, then we have two people using the same service receiving different results. I'd think you'd want to contact Straight Talk and find out why they're lying to you and not him, then.

That's like asking if it's impossible to know exactly what Apple's doing before they tell the world.

The answer is no, but it's insanely unlikely.

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Originally Posted by KDarling 

Liquid Metal makes no sense for a cheap phone.  For one thing, it's not radio transparent like plastic.  For another, unless Apple has come up with a breakthrough, it's more costly.   The only reason to use it is to make pieces less susceptible to showing scratches, etc.

 

The funny thing about Liquid Metal (tm) to me, is that its characteristics are really more like "plastic pewter".   In fact, a major selling point of it is that it can be molded like plastic.  But no one would get excited about a name like that.

Aluminum isn't radio transparent either which is why they used glass inserts top and bottom on the iPhone 5.

Under the right conditions LM could be faster, less labor and safer due to no polishing required. I think it is a matter of cost more than anything else.

Originally Posted by blairh 
The fact is that Straight Talk will seriously throttle your data if you pass the 2 GB per month. This isn't something I came up with. It's not a rumor. It's a fact.

Then why isn't it true? Because, again, we have evidence of actual network use here, and we're told it's not true.

I find it utterly absurd that you don't seem to comprehend the fact that THEY WOULD KNOW THESE THINGS.

Forgive me if I'm not sold on the opinion of someone who doesn't actually know versus someone who has lived it.

You can read all the books he wrote and all the books written by any of the men that followed him, but I think I'll directly talk to Buzz Aldrin if I want to know what it's like to walk on the effing moon.

Indeed!

Okay, so what's prohibited?

Sounds about right. No VoIP, no MMS spamming (since spam is illegal anyway), no copying of broadcast video, no server creation, and no piracy.

See, except all phones allow this with one click. So they won't actually prevent this.

Here's what you're claiming. Now show me where it says "2GB" anywhere in there. In fact, they go on to outline situations in which this would happen.

Expressly forbidden data services are

And there you go.

All you have to is Google "straight talk 2gb limit" to find a lot of info.

Reportedly, what happens is this:

In other words, ST's contract with the carriers must cost them more after 2GB.   They can't throttle you, but they can harrass and/or cut you off.

This is all off topic anyway.  Perhaps all the Straight Talk posts can be moved into their own thread?

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Originally Posted by KDarling 

Liquid Metal makes no sense for a cheap phone.  For one thing, it's not radio transparent like plastic.  For another, unless Apple has come up with a breakthrough, it's more costly.   The only reason to use it is to make pieces less susceptible to showing scratches, etc.

 

The funny thing about Liquid Metal (tm) to me, is that its characteristics are really more like "plastic pewter".   In fact, a major selling point of it is that it can be molded like plastic.  But no one would get excited about a dull name like that !

I agree LM makes no sense for a sub-$500 phone. I was talking about LM in reference to the iPhone 6 which I imagine will be the next flagship iPhone.

I would love for Apple to use aluminum for the affordable iPhone, but if they use plastic I would hope it's tasteful, and not like the 3G/3GS.

Originally Posted by blairh 
ST does not address the throttling in their T.O.S. You have proven nothing.  

"Hey, jragosta, you're a Straight Talk customer, and you use data, do they throttle the data?"
"No, they don't throttle the data."

Yep. Proven nothing.

If it's not in the TOS, they can't legally do it.

No, they're not in the slightest. That's funny, though, that you'd top your argument off with them.

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Originally Posted by blackbook 

I would love for Apple to use aluminum for the affordable iPhone, but if they use plastic I would hope it's tasteful, and not like the 3G/3GS.

I know some people don't, but I always put a case on each device that I carry around, both for protection and to make it easier to grip.

Heck, most people I know have some kind of protective case on their iPhone or iPad.   A rubberized or hard shell or leather case is really common.

So, for me and a lot of people, the stock back material is rarely seen.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan 


Sorry not seeing plastic. We didn't get a plastic unibody iPad mini, why would we get a plastic lower priced phone? If we even get a lower priced phone. Cook was pretty clear on the investor call that Apple won't go after revenue for revenue's sake.

I've said before I'd prefer aluminum over plastic for a cheaper iPhone, but Gazoobee's idea for a unibody polycarbonate frame made in the same way as the iPhone 5's aluminum chassis would be a good solution also. Anything is better than the bulbous 3GS look or Galaxy S look.

The new China-only phone will be called the 光荣电话聚碳酸酯.

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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich 

The new China-only phone will be called the 光荣电话聚碳酸酯.

Hahaha!    "Glorious Polycarbonate Phone"

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Originally Posted by KDarling 

 

Hahaha!    "Glorious Polycarbonate Phone"

这款手机是一款奇妙可爱的美丽的东西。所有公民将需要一个更大的利益。

There's no longer anything "nascent" about the market for larger-than-the-iPhone's-sized screens. Inferring otherwise (even if 4.8" phones are NOT "phablets") is to live in denial of what's all around us.

Seeing all the phones at Best Buy together, the Note II is too big for my ways of carrying a phone around, but the iPhone screen seems very (and artificially) constrained compared to much of the competition - especially for a device I'll mostly be using with two hands (to type) or none (while watching content/listening to music) - making the purity of maintaining "one hand operation ergonomics" the overriding design decision faintly ridiculous for my tastes.  (NTM the height of the iP5 makes that impossible for many already, so a shibboleth in reality as well.)

Apple's mastery of creating Reality Distortion Fields is boding to lock themselves inside of their own RDF.

Also, more than "faintly" ridiculous is the notion that the world's (until this week) largest enterprise (by stock market value) cannot (and by the lights of many on these forums should not) produce more than one current model of phone, especially since it took them less than half the iPhone's lifetime to date to ship two form factors of iPads.

And the above, plus stories like this one, have me on the fence:  http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/27/3922500/apple-has-a-porn-problem-and-its-about-to-get-worse

There are "walled gardens" that protect us from things we all need to be protected from (malware, mis-behaving apps that make our devices less-functional, etc.) and then there are blue-nosed prisons that "protect us from ourselves" (and horror of horrors, images of boobs!) which I have no desire to voluntarily lock myself inside of..  

Originally Posted by bigpics 

…making the purity of maintaining "one hand operation ergonomics" the overriding design decision faintly ridiculous for my tastes.

Name a pre-Android phone that you couldn't use with one hand. Any phone at any time.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Name a pre-Android phone that you couldn't use with one hand. Any phone at any time.

What would be the point in that? They were entirely different kinds of devices used for much more limited purposes.

However to answer your Q (I think - as perhaps you're referring to iPhones only, and not the phones of the pre-iPhone era, though there were those MS "smart" phones you had to use a stylus with, so there's one IN the iPhone timeline you certainly couldn't fully use one handed), I've always texted with two thumbs or forefingers, and have always held phones in one hand to dial with the other. 

So the idea of dialing (let along TXTing) with the hand I'm using to the hold the phone seems (diff strokes for diff folks notwithstanding) clumsy to the max.... ..whether on a Blackberry, any dumb phone or even the first iPhone....

#onehandedphoningisoverrated

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

Name a pre-Android phone that you couldn't use with one hand. Any phone at any time.

ANY phone at ANY time? 

Okay, I would say that the 1994 IBM Simon ... the world's first smartphone:.. wasn't very easy to use with one hand:

Ditto for the Nokia Communicator series that was popular for years, dating back to 1996.  It had function keys far away beside the screen and at the top of the rather large keyboard, when the phone was opened up to type emails, etc.

How about the 2004 Nokia 6829, a mutant with a secret two-handed keyboard that flipped out:

I'm sure I can find more.  These were just laying around in my files on smartphone history.

Also, with most of the smartphones with resistive touchscreens and no physical keyboard, you really needed two hands (one to hold, one with stylus) to enter text on the super tiny stock onscreen keyboard.

Can't wait for months of these stories, with every photo of a blurry screw being reported on. AppleInsider should be above this crap, instead this has become like every other site cross-posting this trash. This may or not be a photo of a blurry internal component for a future Apple device. Who gives a shit either way? Nothing of use can be ascertained from the photo, it's simply hit-whoring. 

Originally Posted by bigpics 
What would be the point in that? They were entirely different kinds of devices used for much more limited purposes.

Because while they're still called 'phones', it's a valid point.

No, I meant any phone from any era at any time. That's probably why I said "any phone at any time".

Originally Posted by KDarling 
ANY phone at ANY time? 

Each of those can be used with one hand. You see my point; even when their functionality extends beyond that of just being a phone, all of them can still be used with one hand! It's just not the case as of the most recent models.