Originally Posted by drjohnmarkway
I have no idea who or what you are.
Hopefully the first human to hit 150, but I'll need a little luck and a little more money than I currently have.
I have said repeatedy that the Touch doesn't interest me because what DOES is a music specific machine.
Guess what the iPod touch is. What a stumper.
Did you even read the title of the post?
That's what confuses me so much.
I KNOW that the Touch was not designed for music.
You "know" completely incorrectly. These devices are what you make of them. Mick Jagger's daughter used a Macintosh as a painting machine. He didn't use one at all, but he was hopped up on drugs at the time. Some people use them to edit video. Some people have iPhones for personal use. Some are only allowed to use them for business. Some of this business is creative in nature, so the devices themselves are used for collaboration and creation. Others use them for music. If you want it to be a music-specific machine, it is a music-specific machine.
It may have been made more compatable than it originally was, but that doesn't make it an audio specific machine.
No device with a screen is an audio-specific machine. Keep that in mind when you shop for anything made this side of 1980.
I feel somewhat better about buying one if my Classics all die, but until then I couldn't care less that it has a touch screen or claims 10 hours of battery life etc.
The iPod classic is far from an audio-specific machine. Bit of a double standard.
However, I have game machines, and since you managed to take the discussion everywhere EXCEPT the audio only device, I responded. You brought it up, you got my answer.
The device you want does not exist and has never existed from any company. The iPod touch is the new iPod classic. The latter is and has never been a music-specific machine. Even the early ones had games and calendars.
Listen up Trolls, fairies, gremlins or whatever else you are, there are serious music listeners out in the big forest.
I like this line.
Many of the serious audiophiles have switched to using music directly stored upon their computer and are bypassing CD players, Turntables and so on altogether. I would do the same if I had not invested so darn much money in iTunes.
See, you claim you're not a troll, and you certainly write far more intelligently than one, but you keep to your earlier nonsensical beliefs and THEN you go and drop this bombshell on us, leaving us continue to scratch our heads. iTunes downloads are still 256kbps. One would imagine you'd have ALAC audio if you were actually an audiophile. I don't have the coin nor the desire to get a multi-(ten!)-thousand dollar speaker setup, but even I have ALAC because I can hear it.
What I am talking about is a small laptop say 8"X6" that is pre-programmed for music, with notes and links between players, groups etc and also to make it easy to arrange your music library.
A netbook running iTunes, but you'd need an external hard drive since netbooks don't come with "enough storage".
It would need RCA plug jacks for out put as well as whatever else is current on modern amplifiers.
It's a laptop. It's not going to have any of that, but you'd be able to get adapters for whatever you need.
A large hard drive of about 180 G's of memory would be necessary.
Yeah, I don't know of a netbook that ever got that big. And good luck even finding one anymore; the iPad killed them.
This would negate the need for a lot of connecting cable between my computer and stereo, and allow me to move it from room to room.
You could get an AirPort Express and AirPlay your music to each of your speaker sets wirelessly.
I am not an Apple fan. I do not like their business model, and I am not the only one. Apple came very close to closing it's doors and not so very long ago either.
But that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ITS BUSINESS MODEL. In fact, the "not so very long ago" was ludicrously long ago, and was borne of them NOT HAVING the business model that they currently have.
The key to business success is to give people what they want at what at least seems like a bargain.
iPod touch. You don't like it, iPod nano. You don't like it, iPod shuffle. You don't like it, iPod classic. In basically that order. I guess you could make an argument for a tree with TWO trunks (touch, classic), leading up smaller branches (nano, shuffle), but only if you concede that the second trunk is rotten and hollow and there's a guy from the city coming out to mark it for removal sometime later this spring.
When I want a phone I want a phone that works and I don't want it to dance and whistle "Dixie".
LG still makes some good flip phones, I think. Maybe. Anyway, the VX5300 is a great little number.
I want a sturdy quality product made specifically to do one job.
iPod touch. Use it specifically FOR one job. It's just that simple.
You'll never find a car that can carry only one kind of passenger. You'll never find a house that can hold only one kind of family. You'll never find a company that wants only one kind of job. You'll never find a sandwich shop maker that makes only one kind of sandwich.
The iPOD began as a music machine and somehow it has become lost or scrambled together with a telephone!?
If you don't like that, BUY. AN. IPOD. TOUCH. Or buy some useless crap from someone else. Zen isn't completely bankrupt yet, so maybe their poorly-built, tacky-looking, unusably-interfaced products will fit your bill.
Oh, I guess not. See, it says "microphone" and "photos" there, and you wanted a music-specific machine.
There's nothing more that anyone can tell you, regardless of where you go. You're looking for validation for your own beliefs, but your beliefs are just wrong to begin with. I'm glad you at least accepted some of what we (I guess it was just me) said in that you don't seem to be complaining about the cloud anymore.