or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPad › Apple's 128GB iPad aims to drive profits up a path competitors can't easily follow
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Apple's 128GB iPad aims to drive profits up a path competitors can't easily follow - Page 2

post #41 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post

 

As I get older I am less excited by new-ness. I appreciate good design and innovation but I have come to appreciate David Filo's disdain for upgrading:

 

-From a rather OLD article ;)-

"Filo's office is truly a Salvation Army collection center of a workspace, with dirty socks and T shirts jumbled in with books, software and other debris. Even more startling is his office computer: a poky clone running an outdated Pentium 120 chip. Why wouldn't the chief technologist of the Internet's No. 1 website use the top of the line? Filo just shrugs. "Upgrading is a pain."

(http://www.cnn.com/ASIANOW/time/asia/multimedia/shopping.html)

Great link. This was hilarious:

 

There are skeptics. Stephen Roach, chief global economist at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, suspects that e-commerce is being oversold, though he admits it's growing rapidly. "I question if it'll ever be big."

 

Roach is a very famous and highly regarded figure on Wall Street--I wonder how many people remember that he said this.

post #42 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post

Great link. This was hilarious:

 

There are skeptics. Stephen Roach, chief global economist at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, suspects that e-commerce is being oversold, though he admits it's growing rapidly. "I question if it'll ever be big."

 

Roach is a very famous and highly regarded analyst--I wonder how many people remember that he said this.

There was a page recently about that. 

Everyone can be wrong, and the Internet took a lot of people by surprise.

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #43 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightknight View Post

Apple doesn't have a crystal ball, it has a crack team of designers/engineers/innovators.

That team can hardly be asked to be changing the world several times a year, while still making a (huge) profit ^^


????

 

Your reply doesn't seem to have any bearing on my comment. Maybe Lunchy's comment, but not mine.

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #44 of 152
Quote:

My personal computing paradigm recently shifted from laptops back to desktops, which provide at least twice more horsepower for content creation at half of what laptops cost. When I need a computing device on the go, I use my iPads. 

 

 

Agreed-  This is a path that could likely emerge.  Robust portable devices on the go ,  powerful desktops,  all link via the cloud.  

Laptop growth may be what's most severely impacted in the coming years.   My Ipad is used all the time,  Laptop ( as a portable) never

leaves its perch.    I will not replace my Laptop, ( tethered to a monitor )   Likely getting a Mac mini or IMac instead.  

 

PS-    Liked the article.  Though long,  it provides context.  Something missing from most every news source.  I may not  agree with everything,  but

I appreciate the effort.  Folks should lighten -up.    

post #45 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by shen View Post

Fun to read the comments.... "Fanboy, reading a lot into storage, drank the koolaid" all very funny.

But his history is dead on, and the logic is sound. If, and is it just if, but if Apple can get some companies and individuals to look at that storage size as not just useful but maybe a future proofing, this becomes self fulfilling. Developers start to think that maybe that huge business class app had a market after all, or that yes, video editing is viable now that you have room to store all the video. A few new must have apps show up, others jump on the band wagon. Next time I buy an iPad I wonder, is this size enough? Sure it is now, but look at some of these new apps... Maybe I up size a step. People upsizing encourages the devs, who make even more impressive apps.

In a year, if this happens, and Apple is selling mostly 64 and 128 pads, how many of those commenting will apologize for their comments?

Yeah.

So your point is "because the world might change and Apple might turn out to sell lots of 128GB iPads, DED hasn't written a lame sloppy piece of fanboyism"?

I'd rather he puts on his leather catsuit and go spy on Cupertino's plans to push out iPad 5... also, he should post a pic of that.

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #46 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman View Post

 

As I get older I am less excited by new-ness. I appreciate good design and innovation but I have come to appreciate David Filo's disdain for upgrading:

 

Agreed.  I too tire of hearing about everything needing new updates/form-factor revisions/faster/smaller/lighter on a bi-annual basis.  It kind of pisses me off.  Maybe because i have better things to do with my money than to throw away $600 annually on a new iPad.  My first-run Gen 2 iPad is great.  My only complaint is the weight.  Retina is over-rated and not necessary for the user experience.  it's just an added bonus.

 

Apple has this amazing way of even making either previous models look like absolute sh*t compared to the new stuff.  Remember Shiller's comment when he compared the new iMac to the old?

post #47 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


????

 

Your reply doesn't seem to have any bearing on my comment. Maybe Lunchy's comment, but not mine.

I was reinforcing your point, sorry if I wasn't clear :D

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #48 of 152
Originally Posted by shen View Post
In a year, if this happens, and Apple is selling mostly 64 and 128 pads, how many of those commenting will apologize for their comments?

 

Don't worry; that won't be the case unless they stop selling all other sizes.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
post #49 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

having a visible and accessible file system is not the point of the iPad.

Oh, "all those 'CAD files'" get stored in Autodesk's "cloud" as part of the App.  So no need for extra storage there.

The lack of a file system is OK if you have a few files.  Once you get get past a few dozen within the same app organization starts to become a problem.  With hundreds of files it becomes unusable.  I attended a legal proceeding and tried to load up the textual evidence on an iPad.  Even though there were hundreds if not thousands of files they fit on my 32Gb iPad.  Trying to find the file being referenced by the lawyers was next to impossible.  Windows or Mac OS laptops worked quite well though.  The iPad had enough horsepower to do the work but the file organization made it useless.  I can't imagine what it would be like with a full 128Gb of files.  I'm pretty sure that Apple will address this in future versions of iOS.

post #50 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

 

Apple has this amazing way of even making either previous models look like absolute sh*t compared to the new stuff.  Remember Shiller's comment when he compared the new iMac to the old?

Well, I still love the Cube, and I'm not particularly "wowsed" by the latest iMac's look. I do want the specs.

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #51 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

Don't worry; that won't be the case unless they stop selling all other sizes.

Agreed - this 128 bump is for the people who complained that 64 wasn't enough ( they are now claiming that 128 is too expensive)

post #52 of 152
Why buy a Molex when you can buy a Rolex? Don't Apple's imitators realize that the existence of the Molex proves the value of the Rolex?

I hope Apple prevails on all their design patents, but not for their sake. Right now there is only one way to do things: Apple's way. If Apple's imitators are forced to be creative, they might produce products that are really better than Apple instead of just as good as Apple.

In the course of a conversation, I showed someone a video on my iPhone. He immediately said, "Wow! Look at the sharpness! Look at the colors! That's fantastic." Then he pulled out his chunky Android phone to demonstrate how mine was better. I wonder what brand his next phone is going to be.
post #53 of 152

deleted


Edited by MacRulez - 5/16/13 at 12:37pm
post #54 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjwal View Post

The lack of a file system is OK if you have a few files.  Once you get get past a few dozen within the same app organization starts to become a problem.  With hundreds of files it becomes unusable.  I attended a legal proceeding and tried to load up the textual evidence on an iPad.  Even though there were hundreds if not thousands of files they fit on my 32Gb iPad.  Trying to find the file being referenced by the lawyers was next to impossible.  Windows or Mac OS laptops worked quite well though.  The iPad had enough horsepower to do the work but the file organization made it useless.  I can't imagine what it would be like with a full 128Gb of files.  I'm pretty sure that Apple will address this in future versions of iOS.

Given, for example, Adobe's Premiere Pro has an amazing Speech-to-text ability, you might be right. An Apple feature that would have you ask Siri for a specific file (video, photo, soundbite...) with a description "Siri, get me the movie where the Extraterrestrial flies a bike over a house", "Siri, get me the picture where ET gets his phone bill"... would be awesome!

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #55 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1 View Post

Now I think, as will all AI's reactive posts after Apple announcements, that Dilger is claiming Apple's strategies are vastly superior to competitors.  He's missing the point.  There are two different strategies between the Android Tablets and the iPad with regards to storage.  Some Android tablets offer expansion slots.  Something many people critique Apple for not addressing.  With a 64gb SD card available now for a little as $50 retail, that still beats the iPad on price alone...Now i'm not saying that's a better or worse solution, just a different way of achieving the same goal [increased total storage].

 

...


Jesus, do you know how to use space or what!

post #56 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightknight View Post

Given, for example, Adobe's Premiere Pro has an amazing Speech-to-text ability, you might be right. An Apple feature that would have you ask Siri for a specific file (video, photo, soundbite...) with a description "Siri, get me the movie where the Extraterrestrial flies a bike over a house", "Siri, get me the picture where ET gets his phone bill"... would be awesome!

I would hate to be the one in the back of a court room speaking into my iPad.  LOL...

post #57 of 152

Meanwhile... today RIM is releasing the new and innovative* Blackberry 10!
 

(*in 2007)

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #58 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post


ExtremeTech raised that question, but with a twist:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/147034-apple-releases-over-priced-128gb-ipad-4-is-this-really-technological-innovation

 

The article includes this note:

 

"To begin with, the iPad 4 only has space for a single NAND flash chip — and Samsung only recently released the first single-chip 128GB solution."

 

Is it true that Samsung is currently Apple's sole supplier for the NAND chips on this new iPad?


Don't know if Samsung is Apple's sole supplier. But do know that other companies have been producing 128 GB NAND chips for ~ 1 yr.

 

ExtremeTech's article is silly, BTW. Why does everything Apple does have to be examined under the microscope of "innovation"? Apple certainly isn't announcing it as such.

post #59 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjwal View Post

I would hate to be the one in the back of a court room speaking into my iPad.  LOL...

Yes, I must say, this use case might not be the best one. Then again, lawyers are paid enough they can afford to learn an obscure language to talk to Siri. /s

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #60 of 152

deleted


Edited by MacRulez - 5/16/13 at 12:37pm
post #61 of 152

Removable storage on a mobile device is considered an unacceptable security problem by many corporate customers.

post #62 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Goes on sale February 5th.

Correct. I believe it was even stated there would be no preorders etc.

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply
post #63 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by drobforever View Post

But none of the competitors will try to sell a 128GB tablet at the same price! Ok except the always clueless MSFT, but still...

I do believe there is a 128 GB Surface Pro. But whereas the actual capacity is like 125 GB and the iOS etc takes up perhaps 2 GB of that (leaving the cx with 123 GB for their stuff) all the Windows stuff takes up like 50 GB (leaving the cx with only 78 GB) so can we really call it a 128 GB Surface. Many cx are say no and talking class action for false advertising.

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply
post #64 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panu View Post

Why buy a Molex when you can buy a Rolex? Don't Apple's imitators realize that the existence of the Molex proves the value of the Rolex?

I hope Apple prevails on all their design patents, but not for their sake. Right now there is only one way to do things: Apple's way. If Apple's imitators are forced to be creative, they might produce products that are really better than Apple instead of just as good as Apple.

In the course of a conversation, I showed someone a video on my iPhone. He immediately said, "Wow! Look at the sharpness! Look at the colors! That's fantastic." Then he pulled out his chunky Android phone to demonstrate how mine was better. I wonder what brand his next phone is going to be.

He is cheap enough to not go for the Galaxy S III, nor the iPhone. I think your answer is "a chunky Windows Phone".

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply

Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/07/16/7-high-school-girls-are-kickstarting-their-awa...

Reply
post #65 of 152
Where is all of this derision for the author coming from? Another great article DED!
post #66 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post


ExtremeTech raised that question, but with a twist:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/147034-apple-releases-over-priced-128gb-ipad-4-is-this-really-technological-innovation

The article includes this note:

"To begin with, the iPad 4 only has space for a single NAND flash chip — and Samsung only recently released the first single-chip 128GB solution."

Is it true that Samsung is currently Apple's sole supplier for the NAND chips on this new iPad?

I think Samsung is most likely but I know Micron and Sandisk are using the 20nm process for 128GB single chip solutions. AnandTech has had a few reviews of the new Intel mSATA SSDs.

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #67 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by shen View Post

Fun to read the comments.... "Fanboy, reading a lot into storage, drank the koolaid" all very funny.

But his history is dead on, and the logic is sound.

I would disagree. His history is full of this kind of logic and it is not, in my opinion, sound. DED constantly posits that everything is about beating the competition despite Apple over and over saying they don't care about what the other boys are doing, what they are earning etc. So this 'statement' that Apple did this bump to beat anyone is likely false and is solely based on getting enough user feedback about the desire for more storage that it is worth trying out. No better test than a silent release up with basically no hoopla and see who bites.

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply
post #68 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjwal View Post

The lack of a file system is OK if you have a few files.  Once you get get past a few dozen within the same app organization starts to become a problem.  With hundreds of files it becomes unusable. 

That has nothing to do with a lack of centralized and user accessible file system in the OS but a lack of organization features in the apps. Which is not Apples fault as they didn't write them

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply

A non tech's thoughts on Apple stuff 

(She's family so I'm a little biased)

Reply
post #69 of 152
Wow. Couldn't even get through that article. (and I love the Dil.),but seriously... What kind of a "bleep" would use the word "iPad" and "fat" in the same sentence?!
post #70 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

I do believe there is a 128 GB Surface Pro. But whereas the actual capacity is like 125 GB and the iOS etc takes up perhaps 2 GB of that (leaving the cx with 123 GB for their stuff) all the Windows stuff takes up like 50 GB (leaving the cx with only 78 GB) so can we really call it a 128 GB Surface. Many cx are say no and talking class action for false advertising.

About 119GB since 1GB = 1 billion bytes. 83GB is available for the user so the OS and other stuff takes up about 36GB.

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #71 of 152
Quote:
At first glance, Apple's 128-gigabyte iPad doesn't seem like much of an advance. After all, the company's competitors won't have too much difficulty in adding more memory to their own tablets.

 

 

Quote:
When the iPhone appeared, it packed an iPod-style amount of storage, making it more expensive than most of its smartphone competition. That extra RAM, however, also made it notably more useful, serving as a phone, an iPod and a software platform capable of running a real browser, desktop class email and sophisticated apps and games.

 

 

Does the author understand the difference between storage and RAM? I think probably yes, but statements like the above, especially the second one, make me scratch my head.

2011 Macbook Pro, 2012 Macbook Air, iPhone 5, iPad 4

Reply

2011 Macbook Pro, 2012 Macbook Air, iPhone 5, iPad 4

Reply
post #72 of 152
Man, the way this thread is going I'd rather watch the BB10 live blog from RIM, oops, tha's not their name anymore:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6712/blackberry-10-announcement-live-blog
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AnandTech Live Blog: The newest updates are at the top. This page will auto-update, there's no need to manually refresh your browser.

11:13AM EST - Another big announcement

11:12AM EST - Most partners will be launching preorder websites today

11:12AM EST - In the UK, the Z10 will be available tomorrow

11:12AM EST - in the UAE the Z10 will be on the February 10th

11:12AM EST - Pricing will vary by carrier partner, but the Z10 will retail for around $149.99 with a 3 year contract

11:11AM EST - In Canada the Z10 will be available on February 5th

11:11AM EST - Availability for most US carriers of the Z10 to be in March

11:11AM EST - In the US market: AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile will begin announcing price plans today

11:11AM EST - By the end of February lab testing with 110 carriers globally will be completed

11:08AM EST - Can install multiple apps simultaneously, no reboots required

11:07AM EST - All major record labels and independents represented in the BB World music section

11:07AM EST - BlackBerry World is now the one stop shop for BB apps, games, movies, TV shows and music

11:04AM EST - Over 1K top apps committed to BB10 today

11:04AM EST - and Angry Birds

11:04AM EST - SAP committed to BB10

11:04AM EST - WhatsApp as well

11:04AM EST - Amazon Kindle committed to BB10

11:04AM EST - Skype committed to BB10

11:03AM EST - Over 70K apps today

11:03AM EST - BB10 launches with more apps by far than any first gen OS

11:01AM EST - All major labels and networks to supply content to BlackBerry World

11:01AM EST - "We will launch with an amazing collection of music, TV shows and movies"



10:59AM EST - Sounds a lot like desktop iMovie but on BB10

10:59AM EST - Select videos, choose music, add titles and credit, Story Maker automatically stitches it all together





10:58AM EST - Now talking about BB10 Story Maker

10:58AM EST - BB Flow - avoiding constantly having to go back to a grid of applications

10:57AM EST - Real time photo effects



10:57AM EST - Built in photo editor

10:56AM EST - Showing off the pictures app

10:56AM EST - BB timeshift - let's you select a face from a different capture than the rest of the scene

10:56AM EST - Tap anywhere to take a photo, drag the focus box around to move focus



10:55AM EST - BB10 Camera demo

10:55AM EST - It's one location to save everything you want to remember, organized in folders

10:55AM EST - Remember allows you to save evernote notes, emails, tasks, etc...



10:53AM EST - You can add attachments, photos, videos, URLs to reminders



10:53AM EST - BlackBerry Remember demo on the Q10

10:53AM EST - I really wish all of these real time communications protocols weren't closed

10:52AM EST - real time share of information while in a voice or video call

10:52AM EST - "great collaboration tool for small enterprises"

10:52AM EST - official name: BBM Video Chat with Screen Share



10:51AM EST - Great for flipping through photos, presentations, etc... remotely

10:51AM EST - You control the experience, the other end of the line just sees whatever you see on your screen

10:51AM EST - You can remotely share your smartphone screen with another BB10 user



10:50AM EST - BBM Screen Share: not only shares your camera, but also share your entire screen





10:50AM EST - BlackBerry Messenger now supports video calling







10:49AM EST - BlackBerry Messenger: 60M subscribers globally

10:48AM EST - Briefcase icon denotes a work app, only allowed to use a certain portion of storage

10:48AM EST - BB10 gestures seem very fast and smooth, this can definitely work for enterprise users

10:47AM EST - Single unified user experience but can multitask and quickly switch between work and home environments on a single device

10:47AM EST - In work mode you get access to a different app store, everything your enterprise server wants you to have access to





10:46AM EST - Swipe down from the home screen to switch between home and work profiles

10:46AM EST - BlackBerry Balance

10:46AM EST - Now talking about users who have to carry two devices: work and personal

10:46AM EST - Very big focus on international usage in this launch, BlackBerry knows its audience



10:45AM EST - No toggling between languages, just dynamically move between them



10:44AM EST - Prediction quickly works and spans multiple languages



10:44AM EST - Swipe down anywhere on the keyboard to switch to numeric entry

10:44AM EST - Predictive text lets you flip words right to the screen with one thumb, just swipe words up from the keyboard





10:43AM EST - "We have the aspiration to be the best keyboard experience period"

10:42AM EST - Conceptually I'm interested in the idea of something like the BB Hub that lets me do everything in one application, in practice I've never seen something like this work well - will have to spend some time with it

10:41AM EST - UI seems very smooth and fluid

10:41AM EST - Contacts aggregate as much available information as possible using Linkedin, fB, etc...

10:41AM EST - BB10 automatically pulls down photos from Linkedin when you look at meeting details, so you can see who you're meeting with

10:39AM EST - All activity/engagement in one single place...assuming there are no new major services you want to interact with

10:39AM EST - You can tweet straight from the BB Hub

10:38AM EST - One thumb operation to get in and out of the hub and navigate around

10:38AM EST - BB Hub aggregates content from email, FB, LinkedIn, BBM

10:38AM EST - Red notification LED tips you to peak at the BB Hub



10:37AM EST - Swipe to peak at the BlackBerry Hub even while watching a video or playing a game, nothing gets paused

10:36AM EST - Switching between apps looks very smooth and fast





10:36AM EST - BlackBerry Flow: quick task switching, real time true multitasking

10:34AM EST - Q10 has a 3.1-inch screen





10:33AM EST - The Q10 is the first BB10 smartphone with a physical keyboard

10:33AM EST - (the earlier specs were for the Z10)

10:33AM EST - Big focus on content aggregation within BlackBerry 10







10:33AM EST - Textured back

10:32AM EST - 4.2-inch screen, 356 PPI





10:32AM EST - BlackBerry Z10 and BlackBerry Q10

10:29AM EST - "We have reinvented this company and want to reflect this in our brand"

10:29AM EST - One consistent brand, ditching the RIM name makes sense



10:29AM EST - One brand, one promise



10:28AM EST - From this point forward RIM becomes BlackBerry

10:28AM EST - "we have defined our vision"

10:28AM EST - "we have transformed ourselves inside and out"

10:28AM EST - "Took heartfelt and...brutal honesty"

10:28AM EST - "We absolutely knew it was risky"

10:28AM EST - Bringing an entirely new platform to the market...took careful planning

10:26AM EST - Thanking the RIM and QNX teams for building the foundation of BB10

10:25AM EST - Having a good camera, apps, web browser, etc... is expected, how does BB10 go beyond those expectations?

10:23AM EST - "BlackBerry 10 - Built to keep you moving"

10:22AM EST - Thorsten is thanking the RIM employees and congratulating them on launching BB10



10:21AM EST - "Innovation is at the heart of RIM"

10:20AM EST - (Sorry for the super considerate videographer that decided to setup right in front of us)



10:19AM EST - Here we go, I think the launch is now starting - Thorsten Heins, President and CEO of RIM is taking the stage

10:16AM EST - Now Lil E is on video rapping about BlackBerry 10, this is bizarre

10:15AM EST - Now showing a video of some BB fans

10:15AM EST - "the largest catalog of applications ever for a first generation launch in mobile"

10:15AM EST - Big focus on developers and a global audience with BB10

10:14AM EST - "We've seen all types of developers we haven't seen before: young people"

10:14AM EST - The official presentation hasn't really started yet, this is sort of the pre-game show at this point it seems

10:13AM EST - VP of dev rel, Alec Saunders is speaking about getting BB10 developers on board

10:10AM EST - Playing a video of user reactions to BlackBerry 10 now

10:09AM EST - and we're starting!

10:06AM EST - Should be starting soon...

09:59AM EST - Luckily 5GHz WiFi and wired ethernet are both available at the venue

09:59AM EST - We're being asked to disable any personal wireless hotspots...that request never works

09:53AM EST - We're being asked to take our seats - "the BlackBerry Experience will begin shortly"



09:47AM EST - T-minus 15 minutes until this thing starts...

09:39AM EST - On the plus side for RIM, I feel like we're quickly approaching maturity in the current era of mobile devices. The next era will be mobile/desktop convergence and no one has demonstrated obvious leadership towards that end yet.

09:36AM EST - I suspect winning over the first group won't be all that difficult, it's the second that I'm unsure of.

09:35AM EST - Success will be determined in two phases imho: can RIM retain its faithful user base and then, can RIM begin to win back users who have been lost to Apple/Google

09:35AM EST - The world is a very different place today, but there are still a significant number of BB and BB enterprise users who RIM can still sell to

09:34AM EST - I was a huge BlackBerry user through college, it was the first platform I could really be productive on after my old Palm V



09:30AM EST - So far both NYC and the venue are cooperating - weather isn't horrible and upstream bandwidth is awesome
post #73 of 152
I think another strategy with the 128gb is the economy of scale. This ties in with the new 128gb options on the Mac side, ala Fusion.

I like Daniels articles, I guess I'm a Dedhead!.
post #74 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

Man, the way this thread is going I'd rather watch the BB10 live blog from RIM, oops, tha's not their name anymore:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6712/blackberry-10-announcement-live-blog
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AnandTech Live Blog: The newest updates are at the top. This page will auto-update, there's no need to manually refresh your browser.

11:13AM EST - Another big announcement

11:12AM EST - Most partners will be launching preorder websites today

11:12AM EST - In the UK, the Z10 will be available tomorrow

11:12AM EST - in the UAE the Z10 will be on the February 10th

11:12AM EST - Pricing will vary by carrier partner, but the Z10 will retail for around $149.99 with a 3 year contract

11:11AM EST - In Canada the Z10 will be available on February 5th

11:11AM EST - Availability for most US carriers of the Z10 to be in March

11:11AM EST - In the US market: AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile will begin announcing price plans today

11:11AM EST - By the end of February lab testing with 110 carriers globally will be completed

11:08AM EST - Can install multiple apps simultaneously, no reboots required

11:07AM EST - All major record labels and independents represented in the BB World music section

11:07AM EST - BlackBerry World is now the one stop shop for BB apps, games, movies, TV shows and music

11:04AM EST - Over 1K top apps committed to BB10 today

11:04AM EST - and Angry Birds

11:04AM EST - SAP committed to BB10

11:04AM EST - WhatsApp as well

11:04AM EST - Amazon Kindle committed to BB10

11:04AM EST - Skype committed to BB10

11:03AM EST - Over 70K apps today

11:03AM EST - BB10 launches with more apps by far than any first gen OS

11:01AM EST - All major labels and networks to supply content to BlackBerry World

11:01AM EST - "We will launch with an amazing collection of music, TV shows and movies"



10:59AM EST - Sounds a lot like desktop iMovie but on BB10

10:59AM EST - Select videos, choose music, add titles and credit, Story Maker automatically stitches it all together





10:58AM EST - Now talking about BB10 Story Maker

10:58AM EST - BB Flow - avoiding constantly having to go back to a grid of applications

10:57AM EST - Real time photo effects



10:57AM EST - Built in photo editor

10:56AM EST - Showing off the pictures app

10:56AM EST - BB timeshift - let's you select a face from a different capture than the rest of the scene

10:56AM EST - Tap anywhere to take a photo, drag the focus box around to move focus



10:55AM EST - BB10 Camera demo

10:55AM EST - It's one location to save everything you want to remember, organized in folders

10:55AM EST - Remember allows you to save evernote notes, emails, tasks, etc...



10:53AM EST - You can add attachments, photos, videos, URLs to reminders



10:53AM EST - BlackBerry Remember demo on the Q10

10:53AM EST - I really wish all of these real time communications protocols weren't closed

10:52AM EST - real time share of information while in a voice or video call

10:52AM EST - "great collaboration tool for small enterprises"

10:52AM EST - official name: BBM Video Chat with Screen Share



10:51AM EST - Great for flipping through photos, presentations, etc... remotely

10:51AM EST - You control the experience, the other end of the line just sees whatever you see on your screen

10:51AM EST - You can remotely share your smartphone screen with another BB10 user



10:50AM EST - BBM Screen Share: not only shares your camera, but also share your entire screen





10:50AM EST - BlackBerry Messenger now supports video calling







10:49AM EST - BlackBerry Messenger: 60M subscribers globally

10:48AM EST - Briefcase icon denotes a work app, only allowed to use a certain portion of storage

10:48AM EST - BB10 gestures seem very fast and smooth, this can definitely work for enterprise users

10:47AM EST - Single unified user experience but can multitask and quickly switch between work and home environments on a single device

10:47AM EST - In work mode you get access to a different app store, everything your enterprise server wants you to have access to





10:46AM EST - Swipe down from the home screen to switch between home and work profiles

10:46AM EST - BlackBerry Balance

10:46AM EST - Now talking about users who have to carry two devices: work and personal

10:46AM EST - Very big focus on international usage in this launch, BlackBerry knows its audience



10:45AM EST - No toggling between languages, just dynamically move between them



10:44AM EST - Prediction quickly works and spans multiple languages



10:44AM EST - Swipe down anywhere on the keyboard to switch to numeric entry

10:44AM EST - Predictive text lets you flip words right to the screen with one thumb, just swipe words up from the keyboard





10:43AM EST - "We have the aspiration to be the best keyboard experience period"

10:42AM EST - Conceptually I'm interested in the idea of something like the BB Hub that lets me do everything in one application, in practice I've never seen something like this work well - will have to spend some time with it

10:41AM EST - UI seems very smooth and fluid

10:41AM EST - Contacts aggregate as much available information as possible using Linkedin, fB, etc...

10:41AM EST - BB10 automatically pulls down photos from Linkedin when you look at meeting details, so you can see who you're meeting with

10:39AM EST - All activity/engagement in one single place...assuming there are no new major services you want to interact with

10:39AM EST - You can tweet straight from the BB Hub

10:38AM EST - One thumb operation to get in and out of the hub and navigate around

10:38AM EST - BB Hub aggregates content from email, FB, LinkedIn, BBM

10:38AM EST - Red notification LED tips you to peak at the BB Hub



10:37AM EST - Swipe to peak at the BlackBerry Hub even while watching a video or playing a game, nothing gets paused

10:36AM EST - Switching between apps looks very smooth and fast





10:36AM EST - BlackBerry Flow: quick task switching, real time true multitasking

10:34AM EST - Q10 has a 3.1-inch screen





10:33AM EST - The Q10 is the first BB10 smartphone with a physical keyboard

10:33AM EST - (the earlier specs were for the Z10)

10:33AM EST - Big focus on content aggregation within BlackBerry 10







10:33AM EST - Textured back

10:32AM EST - 4.2-inch screen, 356 PPI





10:32AM EST - BlackBerry Z10 and BlackBerry Q10

10:29AM EST - "We have reinvented this company and want to reflect this in our brand"

10:29AM EST - One consistent brand, ditching the RIM name makes sense



10:29AM EST - One brand, one promise



10:28AM EST - From this point forward RIM becomes BlackBerry

10:28AM EST - "we have defined our vision"

10:28AM EST - "we have transformed ourselves inside and out"

10:28AM EST - "Took heartfelt and...brutal honesty"

10:28AM EST - "We absolutely knew it was risky"

10:28AM EST - Bringing an entirely new platform to the market...took careful planning

10:26AM EST - Thanking the RIM and QNX teams for building the foundation of BB10

10:25AM EST - Having a good camera, apps, web browser, etc... is expected, how does BB10 go beyond those expectations?

10:23AM EST - "BlackBerry 10 - Built to keep you moving"

10:22AM EST - Thorsten is thanking the RIM employees and congratulating them on launching BB10



10:21AM EST - "Innovation is at the heart of RIM"

10:20AM EST - (Sorry for the super considerate videographer that decided to setup right in front of us)



10:19AM EST - Here we go, I think the launch is now starting - Thorsten Heins, President and CEO of RIM is taking the stage

10:16AM EST - Now Lil E is on video rapping about BlackBerry 10, this is bizarre

10:15AM EST - Now showing a video of some BB fans

10:15AM EST - "the largest catalog of applications ever for a first generation launch in mobile"

10:15AM EST - Big focus on developers and a global audience with BB10

10:14AM EST - "We've seen all types of developers we haven't seen before: young people"

10:14AM EST - The official presentation hasn't really started yet, this is sort of the pre-game show at this point it seems

10:13AM EST - VP of dev rel, Alec Saunders is speaking about getting BB10 developers on board

10:10AM EST - Playing a video of user reactions to BlackBerry 10 now

10:09AM EST - and we're starting!

10:06AM EST - Should be starting soon...

09:59AM EST - Luckily 5GHz WiFi and wired ethernet are both available at the venue

09:59AM EST - We're being asked to disable any personal wireless hotspots...that request never works

09:53AM EST - We're being asked to take our seats - "the BlackBerry Experience will begin shortly"



09:47AM EST - T-minus 15 minutes until this thing starts...

09:39AM EST - On the plus side for RIM, I feel like we're quickly approaching maturity in the current era of mobile devices. The next era will be mobile/desktop convergence and no one has demonstrated obvious leadership towards that end yet.

09:36AM EST - I suspect winning over the first group won't be all that difficult, it's the second that I'm unsure of.

09:35AM EST - Success will be determined in two phases imho: can RIM retain its faithful user base and then, can RIM begin to win back users who have been lost to Apple/Google

09:35AM EST - The world is a very different place today, but there are still a significant number of BB and BB enterprise users who RIM can still sell to

09:34AM EST - I was a huge BlackBerry user through college, it was the first platform I could really be productive on after my old Palm V



09:30AM EST - So far both NYC and the venue are cooperating - weather isn't horrible and upstream bandwidth is awesome

I've been watching the live stream.


Excellent presentation (save for Alisha Keys giving her celebrity impression at the end). Very focused and organized all the way through. Highly professional.

Love the clever gestures, the simple switching between personal/work screen options, the tying of BBM (like iMessages) in with video sharing (like FaceTime) with one button, and the ability to share your screen with someone. So hard to troubleshoot an iDevice if you can't see the display.

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #75 of 152
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post
Man, the way this thread is going I'd rather watch the BB10 live blog from RIM, oops, tha's not their name anymore:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6712/blackberry-10-announcement-live-blog

 

Aww, that's sweet. They're pulling an Apple. So for the last 11 months of their existence, they're changing their name to "better reflect their scope". Also, now we have two fruits in the industry.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
post #76 of 152

deleted


Edited by MacRulez - 5/16/13 at 12:37pm
post #77 of 152
Add padding above and below section headers. Thanks.
post #78 of 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Also, now we have two fruits in the industry.

Don't be homophobic you racist¡

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #79 of 152
Quote:
"While its competitors shave down storage capacity to reach impressive entry level prices, Apple appears focused on delivering value-oriented products that are profitable. "

Yet, you will then post that Apple needs to release a cheaper iPhone.
Quote:
Apple fails to follow the herd

Apple's new 128-gigabyte fat iPad bucks the trend toward cheaper, less powerful tablet and netbooks, the kind of lower end devices that many observers had predicted to rapidly win tablet market share away from Apple's iPad line.

Again, which is it. Apple sells value-oriented profitable products, or they have to compete with lower end products for the masses?
post #80 of 152

I think this is one of the best articles I have read in a while. Finally, someone writes about Apple that actually gets what Apple is about. Great work!! 

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: iPad
  • Apple's 128GB iPad aims to drive profits up a path competitors can't easily follow
AppleInsider › Forums › Mobile › iPad › Apple's 128GB iPad aims to drive profits up a path competitors can't easily follow