iOS 6.1 sees 22% adoption in less than two days, could be fastest ever - Page 2

 

So by your rationale Andrey, the two pairs of people who started these two companies must have been doing something just for fun and toys?

 

Be grateful somebody like Dave MachLachlan took a risk and used their limited resources to build the company able to give you a job.

It's an occupational hazard for some.

It is really closer to just 100 billion activations a day.

Not to be over critical (this is a pro-apple site after all and I am on my iPhone but isn't it a bit of over hype to describe installing a patch as adoption? Typically adoption rates refer to new software licenses or purchases....

You're right... running a software update and installing a patch is nothing. But tell that to the 47% of Android users who are currently stuck on Gingerbread (which came out over 2 years ago)

The following pie chart is based on the number of Android devices that have accessed Google Play within a 14-day period ending on January 3, 2013.



Almost half of the Android phones on the planet simply CANNOT run a software update and install a patch to get the newest version.

And that's why Apple's adoption rates are news!

That might come sooner than expected ¡

If there's ever a time that people connect to an app store it's the holiday season. Maybe they are still running their software because they don't find anything wrong with it? We;;, at least 2-year old Android devices still work, so there ¡

We're talking about almost half of the Android phones out there still running Gingerbread... and you think it's by choice?

Think of all those cheap $100 unlocked phones sold across the globe. They don't come with anything higher than Gingerbread and will never receive any updates.

There are a million new Android phones activated every day... and half of them are stuck with a 2 year old OS. That's what's happening...

Most android users use their phones for sms, calls and the ocasional facebook. As long as it does this and companies like sony keep vomitating "pc companion" on us, they are good to go.

 

If someone thinks that more than 5% of Android phones are "high end", they are delusional.

In fact, that jelly bean part? 4.1 but they are already on 4.2. It's a disgusting mess and only someone retarded can see that as a good thing.

Lame post of mine. But in all honesty, while I typed it out I was thinking perhaps these customers either don't know any better, or simply don't care. I know some people who didn't know there was a new version out for their iPhone, 6.0 mind you, not 6.1 and when I ask them if they didn't see the red counter on the top right corner they tell me the phone overloads them with info and 'they can't keep track of everything'.

Still, you make a very valid point sir.

My IT Dept does not want me to upgrade to 6.1 until they have tested that it's secure. After all the work Apple did to stop phone networks getting in the way of upgrades, I now have to put up with this,

Maybe things go a bit faster if you give them this:
For information on the security content of this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222

You might want to double check your numbers, ICS is at 29.1%, JB 4.1 is the 9%, JB 4.2 is 1.2% (so 10.2% for all of JB)

I'm updated now :D

 

Apart from that, i was talking of a coffee grinder iPhone 6. How about a 3D-camera iPhone 6?

http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-iphone-5s-or-6-rumors-5-new-features-youre-likely-see-its-release-date-2013-1050118

 

Rumors. Pushing the envelope since the Age of Stone.

oei, that's an appalling article:

"Apple refuses to comment" - no s..t Sherlock

"Without further ado, here's what we've heard" - just so they didn't say any of this; they only heard others saying this. Got it!

"Improved Rear Camera" - Ya think?

"KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo -- one of the best at the business at predicting Apple’s product pipeline" TS can 'citation needed' here

"one particularly strong rumor" - I don't even know what that means

"The Photographer's Timer" Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) - this one I like, which doesn't mean anything. But they reference a patent which makes this particular piece a good one because they provide 'proof'. Well, at least to their theory Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) "IGZO Display: Apple has reportedly invested a great deal of time, energy and money into display technology, likely to be used for its next-gen iPad and iPhone, including this year's iPhone 5S or 6" - Wow. Ok. Erhm, 'time' how would you know?, 'money' ok, we can see that from earnings reports, and notes given by the BoD/CEO, but is that ever broken down to the specific tech they are investing in? I thought only the area. And then to say it's 'likely used in the next version' yeah keep on repeating that; might be true some day.

"In late December, DigiTimes and Apple analyst Horace Dediu both mentioned Apple’s alleged investment in the ultra-thin IGZO displays produced by Sharp, predicting the inclusion of the technology in Apple’s next batch of iOS devices" - well, he turned out to be wrong, such is life.

Don't tell me that you're talking about percentage-wise, like people who has $10 revenues will be 100% on the rise on the previous revenue of $5.00? :)

I think people upgrade on iOS so much so fast because they simply hate the red circle on the Settings app.

I'm sure you read the same article I did. Certainly not Apple's lofty numbers but even you would have to admit that doubling revenues in a single quarter is probably an indication that Google Play's app marketing efforts are finally seeing some significant success, right?

Developers will create apps on Android before iOS only when you can make more money on Android but that will be really hard. Not when iOS users are enthusiastic like this. Even though Android has like 3 times install base in UK when BBC developed Olympic apps it turned out the download on iOS is almost three times the downloads on Android. This data is from BBC executive itself, no intermediate researchers required. Datas like this make it hard to develop mainly for Android unless you're a fanboy or you want to champion an open platform.

But of course if Apple sleeps on the wheel anything can happen.

Edited by matrix07 - 1/31/13 at 5:06am

Why beat around the bush about doubling this triple that? Why don't you lay on the table the number from Google Play and the number from the App Store size by size? Isn't that easier, and clearer?

The easiest way to make money on Android is by creating malware. Thanks to Java-like architecture, anyone can decompile any .apk, recompile with malware and resubmit to Google Play under different account.

It's not just cheap $100 unlocked phones that can't be upgraded. In my household, we've owned at least 4 or 5 Android phones from Motorola and Samsung - and NONE of them ever had an upgrade available. When you contact the vendor, they say that it might be available at some time in the future, so check back soon.

The problem is one of fragmentation. Too many different phones and none of them have enough volume to justify the time and expense required for the phone manufacturer and the carriers to create and test an upgrade. That's the downside of having 50,000 different phones available on Android. Support sucks.

It's all listed more clearly than I could possibly restate it in the App Annie article. Rather than introduce confusion by trying to re-word a well written blog, read the original.

http://blog.appannie.com/app-annie-index-january-2013/?utm_source=appannie&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=c00063#note1

 

EDIT: Just for giggles Matrix, what would be your revenue projections for the two app stores one year from now, based on the graphs at App Annie?

Edited by Gatorguy - 1/31/13 at 6:34am

 

You can't make sensible revenue projections for Google Play based on that data. App Annie themselves indicate that most of the growth took place in South Korea and Japan, both atypical markets. South Korea is obviously skewed because it's Samsung's home country. Furthermore, if Samsung forks Android and sets up their own market, which, from a business perspective would be the wisest thing for them to do, they don't need Google at this point, those numbers will crash there. Japan has always been a gadget freak society (remember the days of Japanese feature phones that had everything but the kitchen sink thrown in and which weren't sold anywhere else?) so it's not surprising that they might be buying Android phones simply because they are freaky gadgets.

 

But neither of these countries is going to make Google Play a success on their own, and the gains there are shaky at best. While I know you have to wring a silver lining out of every bit of Google news, no matter how weak it is, this is mere aluminum foil.

100% of all original iPad owners are not on iOS6

App Annie isn't the only one saying this. Just saying. I have no idea where to get the truth from while searching the internet. Perhaps I should Google that.

A link to contradict someone's post would help. Not that the truth is to be found on the internet, but at least we can discuss which source is better over the other. Bit like Windows is a better OS than anything else, since it has a install base of ≉ 90%.

That link is here. Soli just misread the data, as I'm sure he already noticed:

http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

 

40% of Android devices were on a 4.x build according to the chart. A new one should post tomorrow. I personally suspect a 5-8% increase, perhaps even approaching 50% of all Android devices now running 4.x. It's really not as fragmented as it once was even as little as a year ago.

Edited by Gatorguy - 1/31/13 at 8:22am

 

Maybe you should work on reading comprehension. I didn't dispute whether App Annie's numbers were correct or not, so it's somewhat irrelevant to my point whether other sites agree with them or not. In fact, I accepted their data for the purposes of this discussion, including the part about Google Play's growth being mostly in atypical markets that aren't representative of a trend, and aren't a solid foundation for growth. 

Thanks for that.

Interesting to see the most common display size is 'normal' (not S, L, XL)


Good to read that it's way less fragmented; I certainly would hope developers can earn a living, heck, get rich, from App Stores.

 

100% of us make up roughly whocares% of the installed base. It's time to move on, but if you think the very first Android phone deserves the newest software, take it up with the developers.

Re-read your post, and you're right: it didn't sink in earlier - my bad, sorry.

Even if those numbers are correct, it is irrelevant for purposes of this thread.

OS updates are almost never available for Android while they are regularly available for iOS. Why not tell us how long it took for 10% of Android users to upgrade their existing phones to a newer version of the OS? I can guarantee it's not 2 days (like iOS 6.1). In fact, I doubt if 10% of Android users manage to upgrade their OS in 2 YEARS.

Your figures are simply a sign of a growing market where the newer products ship with a newer OS. Big deal.

 

I installed iOS 6.1 on every device in our house including a 3GS. The speed was the same or better in every instance.

 

 

I find the same experience to be true of all my devices. They are so snappy and I'm especially impressed with the job that Apple has done here. My 3GS and 4S still feel and run like new.

 

 

It is pretty clear the phone market is maturing and getting out of the easy growth stage. Even Samsung stated this in their earnings. The low hanging fruit is gone and Google Play is 350% behind. I'm sure it will make up some ground but it is easy have large growth numbers when starting from almost nothing.

If Japan is an atypical market, unsustainable over the long-term as a revenue source for Android developers then the same should apply to iOS too I would presume. So how important is Japan to iOS appstore revenue? According to App Annie it's Apple's number two market, trailing only the US. For Android it's their number one market, ahead of only the US. So the two countries are reversed in importance. Kinda puts a hole in any argument handicapping Google Play for depending on Japan.

 

http://www.insidemobileapps.com/2012/11/29/app-annie-google-play-surging-in-asia-global-revenues-up-by-over-300-in-2012/

 

No, you'll have to go read my post to discover why this is a freak development for Google Play. But, basically, there's a surge in the market there as those still enamored of the freakish feature phones of yore buy phablets. It's not a trend that can be counted on continuing.

The overwhelming number of normal sized devices does tell us that most Android-based devices are not these flagship phones and phablets that get the media attention. The combined percentage of large and extra-large devices looks enticing but that is from about 4" to 10" and higher and large and extra-large are both overlapping at the 7" mark so there is no way to tell if these are phones, phablets or tablets that are being represented in the large 4" to 7" area and if a 4.9" 264 PPI 1136x640 iPhone would make a viable product.


Not sure of your point. No iPhone 3GS or earlier is supported with iOS 6 either.


I didn't misread it. The only typo I made was forgetting to add a 0 whig turned 10.2 into 1.2 which just so happen to be the same percentage listed for 4.2.
Edited by SolipsismX - 1/31/13 at 10:32am

 

iOS devices are more heavily dependent on Apple for OS updates.  

 

Android devices don't need OS updates as much, because the primary apps are separate.

 

Even older devices are constantly getting new versions of  Google Maps, Mail, Nav, etc.   And since users can set other programs to be defaults, they don't have to wait for the master manufacturer to come out with a new contact app or browser update or a new type of video viewer.  They can replace it with something else.

 

 

 

Or it tells us that there's still a lot of normal sized devices in use.

 

Those charts are not sales.  They're current users.

 

So you think that the expensive flagship devices are being bought by customers but then are not being used because they prefer the cheaper, normal sized Android-based devices? Do you realize how improbable that sounds? The only reasonable answer is that the 4"+ sized Android-based phones are not the most popular or common.