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The presence of Macs running OS X 10.9, Apple's next-generation operating system, continues to expand, potentially hinting that a public unveiling could occur soon.

OS X 10.9


It was on February 16 of last year that Apple, for the first time, announced OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. Now, nearly a year later, there is evidence that the company is hard at work testing the next version of its Mac operating system.

Traffic logs for AppleInsider show that visits from machines claiming to be running an unannounced OS X 10.9 spiked in the month of January.

But while October visits from OS X 10.9 were around three dozen total, the number swelled into the thousands in the just-concluded month of January.Evidence of Apple testing OS X 10.9 first surfaced late last year, when AppleInsider tracked a handful of visits from machines running the next-generation operating system in the month of October. But while October visits from OS X 10.9 were around three dozen total, the number swelled into the thousands in the just-concluded month of January.

For the last couple of years, Apple has been upgrading OS X on an annual basis. Last year, OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion launched on the Mac App Store in July, while OS X 10.7 Lion launched in July of 2011.

If Apple keeps to the same schedule this year, the company could formally unveil OS X 10.9 in the coming weeks, giving developers time to prepare for a summer 2013 launch of its next Mac operating system.
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Looking foward to this.
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So what will happen after 10.9? 10.10?
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Looking foward to this.

Why? No one knows what's in it, so how can you be looking forward to it?

From my perspective, since about 10.6, there's been little driving force for a change. I don't have anything that really needs to be changed (with one exception - Safari memory leaks), so I'm completely indifferent to a new OS.

That, of course, is balanced by the fact that upgrades are so easy and inexpensive that it's a matter of "might as well, even though I don't need it".
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Hmm, OSX 10.10 - isn't that OSXXX?

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So what will happen after 10.9? 10.10?
 

 

I suspect at some point in the not-too-distant future Apple will merge OSX and iOS into a single operating system. The two have been converging in features and design for years, so it doesn't seem that unreasonable.

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So what will happen after 10.9? 10.10?

Possibly. They could jump to 11 but they could also make 10.9 become 11.0, too. I think it really depends on the changes they make and they how they want to market it going forward.

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Why? No one knows what's in it, so how can you be looking forward to it?

From my perspective, since about 10.6, there's been little driving force for a change.

1) You can't see how one can look forward to a future event? I have never been disappointed by a Mac OS X update so I'm certainly looking forward to it.

2) If you compare SL to ML you'll see a lot of changes. Whether you care about those changes or not is another issue but they are massive.

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I wonder what Mac OSX 10.9 will be called. What big cats are left? They've already done cheetah, puma, jaguar, panther, tiger, leopard, snow leopard, lion, mountain lion.... What's left?

After they finish with Mac OSX 10.9 though, they have to go to Mac OSXI 11.0. Mac OSX 10.10 would just be the same as Mac OSX 10.1.
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I suspect at some point in the not-too-distant future Apple will merge OSX and iOS into a single operating system. The two have been converging in features and design for years, so it doesn't seem that unreasonable.

How would that work? The Apple TV comes with 5GB OS installation because it not only has its version of iOS but all of Mac OS X on it too? Same for the iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad? In no scenario can I imagine having all of Mac OS X installed on those devices to meet your one OS vision.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Apple View Post
I wonder what Mac OSX 10.9 will be called. What big cats are left? They've already done cheetah, puma, jaguar, panther, tiger, leopard, snow leopard, lion, mountain lion.... What's left?

 

Sabertooth.

 

And THEN a year and a half later when OS XI is released and computing is again changed forever, they can refer to the keyboard and mouse system as being "long in the tooth".


After they finish with Mac OSX 10.9 though, they have to go to Mac OSXI 11.0. Mac OSX 10.10 would just be the same as Mac OSX 10.1.

 

Nope. 10.4.10 and 10.4.11. They don't have to do anything.

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I wonder what Mac OSX 10.9 will be called. What big cats are left? They've already done cheetah, puma, jaguar, panther, tiger, leopard, snow leopard, lion, mountain lion.... What's left?

After they finish with Mac OSX 10.9 though, they have to go to Mac OSXI 11.0. Mac OSX 10.10 would just be the same as Mac OSX 10.1.

There are plenty of big cat names they can use, just check Wikipedia. Note that cougar, puma, leopard, panther, and mountain lion can all be used to refer to the same species so using a more obscure cat name that directly refers to an already used cat is still on the table.

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Sabertooth.

Mac OS X is getting long in the tooth. 1biggrin.gif

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I'm definitely going to be looking forward to Mac OSXI 11.0 whenever it comes out.
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After they finish with Mac OSX 10.9 though, they have to go to Mac OSXI 11.0. Mac OSX 10.10 would just be the same as Mac OSX 10.1.

From a mathematical point of view maybe, but not from a point of view regarding software versions.

There was a 10.4.1 and a 10.4.10 and 10.4.11 version. The position of the number in the version does not rule out a similar numbering with upgrades.

 

Apple will probably forgo the use of 10.10 or 10.11 in public naming schemes, but internally the number will probably still be used, since Mac OS X, or OS X now, is a strong brand for Apple.

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I wouldn't mind if they'd slow down a bit and do more testing before release. There are quite a few bugs that never get patched, presumably because they're already busy preparing the next release, so they figure what's the point (I'm inferring that logic). I shouldn't have to do a major update to fix bugs.
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So what will happen after 10.9? 10.10?

OSX 11 "Chihuahua"

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So what will happen after 10.9? 10.10?

iOS X

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Nope. 10.4.10 and 10.4.11. They don't have to do anything.

Lol, so you're saying they are going to go back to tiger and have the new OSX be 10.4.11? Why would they do that, lol, that makes no sense. They already do that anyway. Like right now we are currently on 10.8.2 technically. Apple has no choice but to call the next OS Mac OSXI 11.0 or change the name completely.
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I'm hoping they name it Lynx.  But yeah I've been really digging them since SL except for Lion, that one kinda drove me batty at times. 

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Originally Posted by robogobo View Post
I wouldn't mind if they'd slow down a bit and do more testing before release.

 

Seven betas so far of 10.8.3. Is that enough?


There are quite a few bugs that never get patched, presumably because they're already busy preparing the next release, so they figure what's the point (I'm inferring that logic).

 

Curious about your experiences:

 

1. Which bugs?
2. How do we know they're not by design?

3. I preemptively agree with some of them you might say. lol.gif

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And in case you guys didn't know, adding a 0 on the end of a decimal is pointless. lol
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Originally Posted by Adam_Apple View Post
And in case you guys didn't know, adding a 0 on the end of a decimal is pointless. lol

 

10.4.1 and 10.4.10 beg to differ.

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Please Apple (if you read this site), don't forget to resolve the little bug which causes losses of WiFi signal on my 27" .......

 

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Nope. 10.4.10 and 10.4.11. They don't have to do anything.

Lol, so you're saying they are going to go back to tiger and have the new OSX be 10.4.11? Why would they do that, lol, that makes no sense. They already do that anyway. Like right now we are currently on 10.8.2 technically. Apple has no choice but to call the next OS Mac OSXI 11.0 or change the name completely.

Ummm...no.

 

He is saying that just like they used 10.4.10 and 10.4.11, they can use 10.10 and 10.11

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And in case you guys didn't know, adding a 0 on the end of a decimal is pointless. lol

 

  These are naming conventions, not decimal numbers.

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So what will happen after 10.9? 10.10?

Fragmentation. /s

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I think iOS and OS X will combine at some point! Will it be with iOS 7 and OS 11????
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I really hope 10.9 is last version of OS X and iOS will take over. I want OS X to be classic OS to be used for professionals, designers, scientists, video-makers and photographers, while iOS will be used for main stream.

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Nope. 10.4.10 and 10.4.11. They don't have to do anything.

Lol, so you're saying they are going to go back to tiger and have the new OSX be 10.4.11? Why would they do that, lol, that makes no sense. They already do that anyway. Like right now we are currently on 10.8.2 technically. Apple has no choice but to call the next OS Mac OSXI 11.0 or change the name completely.

 

Okay density check. Do you not see how the reference to 10.4.10 and 10.4.11 are a single EXAMPLE of how in the past Apple has indeed used numbers higher than .9 in their revision numbering in the past and so therefore there is no reason why they could not do so again in the future and have OS X 10.10 and OS X 10.11 as we as revisions of those, OS X 10.1.10 if they so choose. 

 

There are some issues with such revision numbering - especially when software checks what version is installed before running or updating - and that code is not able to distinguish between 10.1 and 10.10 - this is similar to the Y2K bug and is not new in the world of software. 

 

And to other posters - while in pure math / numbering  - there is no difference between 10.1 and 10.10 - in software versions there is clearly a difference. Just as there would be in an address for example if your address is 1 My Street and my address is 10 My Street - there is no confusion, right? 

 

Would it help you if they wrote out the entire version as OS X version 10 revision 10 update 11 in order to avoid using the shorthand 10.10.11? in order to avoid any mistaking that for 10.1.11 which is version 10 revision 1 update 11? 

 

or maybe the entire world of software makers doesn't know what they are talking about, yeah, that's it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning 

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Didn't Atari already have a Lynx and Jaguar product? Maybe they'll drop the cat naming and start something new. Or maybe just drop the names that used to just be codenames anyway.
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And in case you guys didn't know, adding a 0 on the end of a decimal is pointless. lol

In a numbering sequence, yes, in a product naming sequence notsomuch pointless: 10.1==Ten point One, 10.10== Ten-Ten

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Does anyone know when developers are typically able to download a new OS such as 10.9?
 

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Unless iOS can catch up to 11th version, but there's no time. Maybe universal iOS11.

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Originally Posted by GeekOutTech View Post
Does anyone know when developers are typically able to download a new OS such as 10.9?

 

Once it's actually announced.

 

iOS and OS X won't merge, but OS X will take on ever more elements of its design. 
 

Plenty of interactions from OS X can't (shouldn't) be done in iOS, and the larger the screen gets the sillier a 'simple' OS becomes.

 

It'll be interesting.

 

IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING HUNDREDS OF REQUESTS FROM THE APPLE PUSH SERVICE TODAY? I'VE MANUALLY ALLOWED EVERY SINGLE IP ADDRESS IN THE 17.172 BLOCK AND I STILL GET REQUESTS FROM THOSE IPS.

 

Driving me crazy. 

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I wonder what features Apple will drop with the new OS? Will 10.9 be the first release that only runs software from the App store?

Will it mean the end of security updates for Intel Macs that can't run Mountain Lion?

Will a trackpad be required?

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The presence of Macs running OS X 10.9, Apple's next-generation operating system, continues to expand, potentially hinting that a public unveiling could occur soon.

OS X 10.9


It was on February 16 of last year that Apple, for the first time, announced OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion. Now, nearly a year later, there is evidence that the company is hard at work testing the next version of its Mac operating system.

Traffic logs for AppleInsider show that visits from machines claiming to be running an unannounced OS X 10.9 spiked in the month of January.

Evidence of Apple testing OS X 10.9 first surfaced late last year, when AppleInsider tracked a handful of visits from machines running the next-generation operating system in the month of October. But while October visits from OS X 10.9 were around three dozen total, the number swelled into the thousands in the just-concluded month of January.

For the last couple of years, Apple has been upgrading OS X on an annual basis. Last year, OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion launched on the Mac App Store in July, while OS X 10.7 Lion launched in July of 2011.

If Apple keeps to the same schedule this year, the company could formally unveil OS X 10.9 in the coming weeks, giving developers time to prepare for a summer 2013 launch of its next Mac operating system.

 

It would be funny if it comes BEFORE 10.8.3 is released to the masses... :D

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And in case you guys didn't know, adding a 0 on the end of a decimal is pointless. lol

Stop jacking the thread with your asinine comments.

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Does anyone know when developers are typically able to download a new OS such as 10.9?

First we'll need to get an official announcement and then they will offer the Betas to Mac OS X developers with paid accounts.

In years past they have had an event where they demoed the OS and then demoed it again months later when it was ear completion. This always seemed redundant and pointless. Last year they secretly arrange meetings with prominent tech writers/bloggers to demo the OS and offer them a Beta copy, then a week or two later they announced it on their website letting the tech writers/blogger and the rest of the internet do its thing.

I much prefer this new method with this new, yearly release cycle.

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I think the version after 10.9, Apple might forgo the public numerical naming, and just use OS X (insert supplemental secondary animal or thing name here). Just a hunch, but who knows.
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Originally Posted by mfryd View Post
Will 10.9 be the first release that only runs software from the App store?


I doubt it.


Will it mean the end of security updates for Intel Macs that can't run Mountain Lion?

 

No other version has ever done that, so I can't imagine this will.


Will a trackpad be required?

 

Of course not. When they get rid of the mouse, it will be all at once.

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1) You can't see how one can look forward to a future event? I have never been disappointed by a Mac OS X update so I'm certainly looking forward to it.

Of course one can look forward to a future event, but looking forward to something that you have no knowledge of is silly.

If I have a dinner date with Taylor Swift, I can look forward to that dinner. But it's hard for me to look forward to dinner on June 19 when I have no idea who I'll be having dinner with or what I'll be eating or where I'll be.
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The presence of Macs running OS X 10.9, Apple's next-generation operating system, continues to expand, potentially hinting that a public unveiling could occur soon.

Well now, what can Apple do next to obsolete recent Macs.

Perhaps a self drive function. "by Google!"

 

Come on Apple, we like your advancements, but I'm not about to fill the landfill with few year old Macs.

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