Apple's iOS mobile web share calls into question reports touting Android sales supremacy - Page 4

Now you're being dishonest. You cited one "imaginary phone" and one running Brew as the OS. 

You're mixing worldwide smartphone shipping estimates with numbers for specific Samsung handsets produced for sale in only the US over a span of 24 months beginning in 2010, and then with only a subset of those being cited by Apple with sales numbers produced. Somehow you think you've managed to prove something from the two unrelated sets of numbers. You've offered no proof at all that previous estimates of that subset were "far, far too high". There were no previous estimates of those AFAIK.

 

Sometimes you just make stuff up I think, hoping I really don't "keep up".

Then you would be in the camp of members who dismiss this entire AI article as fanciful and unreliable as it depends on accepting a similar set of usage data as evidence of questionable Android market share numbers.

No, I cited the Galaxy Star. I also referred you back to the time I did this previously when I identified half a dozen feature phones running Android.

But since you apparently STILL haven't found a third grader to explain how to use a search engine, here are some more:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20040826-251.html
"The i886 is billed as a feature phone with a slide-out QWERTY keyboard,"
"And yet, it IS an Android phone. We dug around in the phone's settings and discovered that according to the phone's open-source licenses, it runs using Android code."

http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-adds-android-os-to-env-touch-feature-phone-follow-up
"The enV series has been a popular consumer-oriented feature phone series for Verizon, and by adding Android to the enV Touch 2, LG is helping to expand the scope of Google’s mobile operating system to reach more consumers."

http://www.zdnet.com/android-to-make-waves-among-feature-phones-2062201480/

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/T-Mobile-G1,LG-Town-GT350/phones/3097,4417
(note table which lists it as a feature phone and Android)

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/10/13/leap-plans-android-feature-phone-wait-what/

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/T-Mobile-G1-Android.htm
" we expect to see a wide variety of Android phones running the gamut from feature phone to smartphone."

That took just a couple of minutes - there are many more references.

I can't believe that you shills are still denying that Android has been used on feature phones.

Once again, all of Samsung's best selling phones were in that number. So your position is that they only sold 21 M of their best selling phones but sold 150 M of 'everything else'? That's blatantly ridiculous.

Of course. I've said that repeatedly. I've said the same thing when surveys like this show that iOS devices are overwhelming leaders. It's the same subject that I've explained over and over again. A sample is only useful for evaluating the entire market if the sample is representative. If the sample is not representative, it doesn't mean a thing.

Have to interject the obvious here.  Samsung stated that they will not be releasing actual sales figures due to the business risk.  Well of course they don't want to do that.  If they reported actual sales, and the analysts see that it is a tiny number compared to "shipped" (and the analysts guesses), their stock will take a beating, and their executives don't get to take home the big bonuses, and the analysts look stupid (well, OK, they already do, but that would make them look even more foolish than they already are).  Certainly not rocket science to see that.

 

Oh, and if Apple can report actual sales numbers during a quarter from their thousands of sales outlets worldwide, why can't other companies?  Maybe a software upgrade is needed?

So which one of those was supposed to be the Android feature phone now being sold? I seem to recall you saying over the weekend that there were lots of them. I sense you grasping at straws now.

 

EDIT: Yes I did notice your sneaky yet subtle goalpost move to something you hope might be supportable since you can't find support for your claim of Android feature phones currently being sold amongst your 50,000+ Bing hits. I didn't fall for it.

Edited by Gatorguy - 2/4/13 at 9:13am

Well see, we CAN find some things to agree on. We both think this is a poorly conceived AI article with a flawed premise.