Originally Posted by jfanning
Please list these Android phones which are "feature phones", and then a description as to why they are only feature phones?
Also, where are these BOGO deals you talk of? I have never seen one.
ROTFLMAO. You've never seen a BOGO deal? Do you live on the moon? They advertise them on the radio and TV all the time here.
As for Android feature phones, the answer is the same as the last ten times you asked the question and I provided multiple examples. I'm tired of looking it up for you and providing the answer since you're simply going to ignore it, anyway. Google 'android feature phone' and look at the results. There are many phones being sold that the manufacturer calls a feature phone - and that's a pretty good definition (especially since, if anything, they're going to want to call the borderline phones 'smartphones' if they can get away with it).
Originally Posted by tzeshan
This is a serious problem with IDC group. They should know the numbers can be very different between shipped and sold. Then they conveniently mix Apple's sales number with a very uncertain shipped number causing Apple investors great amount of loss.
Originally Posted by "Apple
[" url="/t/155756/apples-ios-mobile-web-share-calls-into-question-reports-touting-android-sales-supremacy#post_2270083"]I call into question Android's numbers also. As a matter of fact, I've been calling into question those bogus numbers for years now. Why should anybody just believe in estimates that somebody decides to whip up? There's a reason why official Android numbers are rarely revealed by certain companies.
I really think Apple ][ has the right answer and not tzeshan. As I explained above, the 'shipped vs sold' issue does not explain the discrepancy; certainly not when it's been going on for years. I think the fundamental problem is that the market research firms are using methodology which gives them incorrect answers - as shown by the Apple/Samsung trial where Samsung's shipments were shown to be much lower than all the analysts estimates.
Ask yourself this: There are estimates every quarter for Android phone shipments by vendor. If the estimates are any good, they're going to be on the high side sometimes, on the low side some times and right on the money some times. There should be something approaching a bell curve with the number of underestimates being comparable to the number of overestimates.
Now, if the estimates were significantly too high, the vendor is probably not going to correct them - because lots of prestige accrues to people who have high market share. OTOH, if the estimates are significantly too low, the vendor would probably correct it in some way - perhaps a press release about how well phone xyz is selling. Yet the latter never happens. The most likely explanation is that the estimates are too high on average and rarely underestimate actual sales.