#1. That you can't see that it is a nice looking phone does not surprise me.
#2. Spec whores? This phone has more going for it than just specs. Refer to #1.
#1. That you can't see that it is a nice looking phone does not surprise me.
#2. Spec whores? This phone has more going for it than just specs. Refer to #1.
Why does Apple need to listen? Is the iPhone 5 really that ugly? Its only the best selling phone for them....ever! They already outsold everyone last quarter. I think HTC, Samsung, etc need to listen and create a better user experience. People who are buying a phone based off its specs are just fanboys who want to brag....the same people who buy/build this overpriced computer just so they can brag about it. In the end, its no different from anything else as far as the user experience. This is what matters most, not the specs of a phone. You could have the prettiest phone in the world, but if its a pain in the ass to use and just plain sucks software wise then all the design doesn't matter.
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That was my point. He made a Apple fanboy statement, and I countered with previous Apple fanboy comments with regards to features that Apple phones didn't have at the time (compared to the competition), but later arrived.

The upcoming Galaxy S IV will likely have a 1080p display (actually, it's pretty much a given), and it's the smartphone that most directly competes with the iPhone as far as sales go. Other 1080p smartphones that have been announced:

Why does Apple need to listen? Is the iPhone 5 really that ugly? Its only the best selling phone for them....ever! They already outsold everyone last quarter. I think HTC, Samsung, etc need to listen and create a better user experience. People who are buying a phone based off its specs are just fanboys who want to brag....the same people who buy/build this overpriced computer just so they can brag about it. In the end, its no different from anything else as far as the user experience. This is what matters most, not the specs of a phone. You could have the prettiest phone in the world, but if its a pain in the ass to use and just plain sucks software wise then all the design doesn't matter.
... and Apple is losing sales to these phones. So you are saying that Apple doesn't want those sales?
Sure, its nice looking but how pretty it is isn't everything. People aren't necessarily buying a phone just because it looks nice. You focus on all the wrong things.
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has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
Judging on Apple's last quarter sales, they aren't losing much. Apple can't be everything to everyone and the day it starts trying to be is the day it begins its slow death.
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has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
And lets not forget about all the quality Android apps out there. /sarcasm
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Well la-te-da...You found 2 great apps for Android. Yay! Nobody has to use iTunes anymore. iPhones aren't tied to iTunes.
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has anyone here who is putting down the Android UI or workflow ever used a recent Android device? Android is more interesting and capable than iOS which I feel is so simple so it can appeal to anyone but not necessarily the tech inclined. I had an iphone from launch until about a year and a half ago and I would never go back. I don't care about specs, but its nice to know there are options other than one phone. when I pick up my wife's iphone I feel like I'm transplanted right back to 2007- that home button has to go especially.
Getting rid of the home button is the stupidest thing Apple could do. It's the MOST ICONIC part of their devices, and more importantly, the home button serves an extremely important function for the non-technically inclined- they KNOW that wherever the hell they are, it's an exist button that will get back to the home screen. Android has no equivalent, obvious, intuitive mechanism like that.
I'm not going to fight with all of you, nor will I convince anyone on this forum. All I can say is give Android a try if you are curious. Its way more capable than what you imagine a phone can do. I use a Nexus 4, it doesn't have the latest specs but it has the best software. Find someone with a Nexus so you can see how Google Now personalizes its results.

Looks good. I'd prefer it with stock Android, and not the Sense UI crapped baked on though -- but I'm sure that the enthusiast community will have an answer for that quickly.
I've been with Apple since the iPhone 3GS (I've since bought a 4, 4S, 5, and countless other Apple devices), but I may consider jumping ship for a large screen 1080p Android phone if Apple doesn't answer with their own.
You watch 1080p video on the screen this small? How far your phone from your eyes? 3 inches?
The Android way: Our problems become your problems.
The Android way: Our problems become your problems.
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"Blank! BLANK! You're not looking at the big picture!"

I'm not going to fight with all of you, nor will I convince anyone on this forum. All I can say is give Android a try if you are curious. Its way more capable than what you imagine a phone can do. I use a Nexus 4, it doesn't have the latest specs but it has the best software. Find someone with a Nexus so you can see how Google Now personalizes its results.
I've had 3 Android phones...never again. All 3 with different flavors of Android. I wasn't impressed with any of them. One of them actually was a Nexus phone. I always keep going back to the iPhone. Not because I'm a fanboy, but because I think its just a better overall experience from the ground up. Android is much like using Windows vs OS X in my opinion. They're trying to be everything to everyone and you can't do that and continuously be successful.
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I've had 3 Android phones...never again. All 3 with different flavors of Android. I wasn't impressed with any of them. One of them actually was a Nexus phone. I always keep going back to the iPhone. Not because I'm a fanboy, but because I think its just a better overall experience from the ground up. Android is much like using Windows vs OS X in my opinion. They're trying to be everything to everyone and you can't do that and continuously be successful.
I've never used a Windows computer in my life - 15 years in the photography world, so I wouldn't know. But then again I am holding on to Snow Leopard on my main computers until they fall apart. The thing with Android 4.1 or .2 - is you can make it whatever you like. If I don't like something - I can change it. Change default apps, change launchers. Just like OSX.
I must say the phone looks nice, except for the stupid beats audio branding. But I think you'd have to be blind not to see the iPhone influences with the aluminum and polished chamfered edges. I think I might be bummed though if I bought a OneX on contract as tha was only released last year. That's why I don't mind that Apple doesn't redesign their phone every year.
I hope HTC does well with this phone because Samsung needs some competition in the Android space.

And when Apple releases a higher rez screen than 1136x640 (you don't actually think that Apple is going to stick with ONLY this resolution for the foreseeable future, do you), then what? All of a sudden a higher resolution screen is OK?
I guess my point is, if 1080p is overkill, then what do you suggest the resolution of this 4.7" smartphone should be?
which one? alot of them were crap, like my LG G2X. I would only consider the HTC One series if I didn't get a Nexus. It does take alittle effort to learn it if you've never use one before.
and I never considered Samsung b/c its too much like an iphone - something i don't want anymore.
Thanks for pretending I cared or said anything at all either way about how it looks.
IF Apple ever releases a higher resolution screen, they will have been ready for it, and it won't sacrifice anything in the usability department.

Yes, my point exactly!
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Maybe it's an age thing. I can see pixels on an iPhone, but I can't see them on the DNA, which is the only 1080P phone I've played with.
My first reaction when seeing the Iphone5 2-tone back was that they'd taken this specific design cue from HTC which has been doing these 2-tone designs for a couple of generations (one of the reason I did not like them)
But that's not the point that I was responding to. The other posters were saying that 468ppi was overkill. And there lies the rub, there's no question that Apple will release a higher resolution display at some point. The current iPhone 5 is 326ppi, this is 468ppi. At what point does the increased ppi not become "overkill"? 375ppi, 400ppi?
As for being "ready":
1.7GHz quad-core and 2GB RAM seems like plenty for 1080p output.

More cores CAN result in better power efficiency, if you mix low and high power cores and switch the high power ones off when not required.
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